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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe terrorist hacking of Sony, and their capitulation, prove that Capitalists are arrogant cowards
All my life I have been told how courageous, focused, and determined intrepid businessmen and corporations are in their dedicated war to squeeze every Penny, Ruble, Yuan, and Shekel out of consumers.
Put the mother fuckers to the test, and they cut and run.
(There was a tad of hyperbole in the above statement.)
(But only a tad.)
onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)I guess the corporate military and/or police state wasn't down for this fight.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)Oh yeah, nowhere. I'm sorry that I refuse to buy into the fear campaign. This is absurd in the extreme.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)I don't know if the threat is real or not, but we are dealing with a murderous, and probably insane, regime.
Your response would be...
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)theater goers who saw it.
They are deciding if and how to retaliate.
Steve Carell's movie set in North Korea is on hold. This is a direct and chilling attack on artistic expression.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)If you were actually responsible for the safety of moviegoers, not just yakking on a message board.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I think individuals should have been able to choose how they respond.
Sony's actions have forever tarnished their brand for me.
onecaliberal
(32,777 posts)MRAPS, for a threat coming from another country who is completely inept we run away. There isn't going to be a war. I mentioned military and police because it IS their job to protect and serve.
The point is a crazy fucker in Korea has infringed upon the freedom of speech in this country and that is NOT okay with me and shouldn't be with anyone else either.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)attempting to play up this cyber hack as "terrorist" redefines the word.
Trigger Warning! Conspiracy Theory in progress.
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This is simple blackmail and common extortion at work.
I would like them to play the movie so we can see what the hackers have that they would pay the ransom so rapidly for.
Since the target of the "terrorists" is only the movie, nothing else, the price has been paid.
I assume Sony execs had connections in politics and those emails would have been interesting also...no?
Wonder what assurances they got that all the evidence is destroyed?
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I think it's quite possible that there were even more hideous emails or other nasty things that they uncovered.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)I intended to see the movie, but only because of the hacking and the threat.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)meaning.
Look up the definition.
BootinUp
(47,080 posts)the lil insane bastard over there wouldn't try to blow somebody up. He seems to enjoy blood on the ground.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)On Mt Ranier I saw a man chase a bear which stole his package of hot dogs from a picnic table. He was very brave. And very stupid. Maximum macho is often stupid. Bravery is often overrated.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)That censorship was paid for and perpetrated by the North Korean government.
I don't give a fig fart for Sony. I am concerned that some tin pot dictator can censor people anywhere in the world.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)dictators tell us what we can and cannot view as far as movies go. Cuz FEAR!!1
Rex
(65,616 posts)Of course never mind the fact that an extremely offense movie was made a few years ago in which they kill Kim Sr. And nobody died or went blind.
Lesson to take away from this - puppets get a pass, humans don't.
former9thward
(31,936 posts)If the movie played and something happened at a theater an army of lawyers would have immediately sued Sony and the theater for negligence. The very same people who now denounce Sony for being "cowards" would attack them for "capitalist irresponsibility".
Rex
(65,616 posts)I guess puppets get a freebie, but people don't.
former9thward
(31,936 posts)Xyzse
(8,217 posts)Heck, the guy they have playing Kim Jong-Un is much much better looking than the real one.
maced666
(771 posts)And contributors. But you are right. True colors now showing.
G_j
(40,366 posts)and worrying about people avoiding the theater altogether.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Odin2005
(53,521 posts)At least the feudal aristocrats of old knew how to fight.
Rex
(65,616 posts)It was all over the world and had all kinds of publicity and nobody is dead from it!!! Why is making a movie now any different than making a movie just a few years ago?
Did NK take our chocolate milk at lunchtime? What gives?
Xyzse
(8,217 posts)They tried to make one more recently, and that got derailed.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)and your computer systems were hacked, and this hack prompted 2 (or 3) class action lawsuits against your business, and your business is being threatened with more hacks, as well as physical violence.
Would you simply say to hell with it and ignore the threats? It really does put them in a tough spot. What if they decided to release the movie anyway, and something (almost anything) happened at any one of the theaters across the US while that movie was being carried by the theater? With the tenacious level of litigation in this country you are guaranteed yet even more lawsuits. Keep in mind they are self insured. So, really no matter what they did they were kind of screwed. They are wimps for not showing it on one hand, and how could they be so reckless on the other.
My personal view the cowardice is not on Sony alone. I was listening to the radio yesterday and a theater chain owner had called in, and he had decided against showing the movie. He had received calls from employees, and their parents as well as customers with concerns for their safety if they show the movie. I'm sure this movie house was not alone.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)They could send it straight to video.
They could have arranged for Apple to push it onto every Iphone.
This attack as already stopped another movie that was being made about North Korea by a different organization.
Now, there is this subject, North Korea, that no one is going to examine because the North Korean Dictator has stopped it out of fear that they will be attacked.
I find that deeply offensive.
What if next week a group of religious right hackers working for Uganda steal the information of a studio and threaten theater goers who see any movie that portrays homosexuals?
If the first question a Studio, an actor, or writer asks is, "Who the fuck will I offend with this?" then our freedoms have been stolen and we have been harmed.
Glassunion
(10,201 posts)So the threat still stands even if distributed for free.
I hear you... I so do. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025978635
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)But if they pushed it for free straight to every Apple device, Apple users would have been righteously pissed off.
B2G
(9,766 posts)But only when it fits an agenda.
Carry on.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Right up there with jumping to conclusions, and the right to assume.