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Tue Dec 23, 2014, 05:13 AM

NYC asks federal court to approve mass arrests of protesters

http://firedoglake.com/2014/12/22/300938/

With our nation in crisis regarding the epidemic of police killings of innocent unarmed citizens, most of whom are young black males, including Michael Brown, John Crawford, Tamir Rice and Eric Garner, to mention a few, the NYPD police union president Patrick Lynch pushed back hard on Saturday against people who protest against the killings. In classic right wing nonsequitur fashion, he blamed the predominantly peaceful protesters, Mayor De Blasio and President Obama for the ambush murders of two NYPD officers sitting in a parked patrol vehicle in Brooklyn on Saturday afternoon. Never mind that the killer was not involved in any of the protests and apparently decided to bag two cops after shooting his ex-girlfriend in the abdomen. Terrell Jermaine Starr of Alternet reports,

It was just hours after officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos were shot and killed by a lone gunman, when further inflamed tensions between the police and the minority community during a shockingly divisive and incendiary speech to the media. “There’s blood on many hands tonight,” Lynch said. “Those that incited violence on the street under the guise of protests that tried to tear down what New York City police officers did everyday. We tried to warn, ‘It must not go on. It cannot be tolerated.’ That blood on the hands starts on the steps of City Hall in the office of the mayor [Bill de Blasio]. When these funerals are over, those responsible will be called on the carpet and held accountable.”


Fortunately, some cooler heads are attempting today to pull back from the abyss. However, the NYPD continues to rattle the saber as the NYC Law Department will be attempting to persuade the Second Circuit Court of Appeals sitting en banc to reverse an earlier decision by a three judge panel that held the NYPD had violated Occupy Wall Street protester’s First Amendment rights to freedom of speech and freedom of assembly and their Fourth Amendment rights to privacy by making mass arrests without individualized probable cause.

The City is arguing in its legal brief that the three judge panel’s “decision will frustrate, not further, the work of police attempting to facilitate peaceful demonstrations while ensuring both the safety of demonstrators and those among whom demonstrations are staged.” This argument is ridiculous because the Fourth Amendment specifically states that police cannot arrest a person without probable cause to believe he or she committed a crime. Police are also prohibited from entrapping law abiding citizens into committing crimes they did not intend to commit. In this case, officers from the NYPD entrapped Occupy Wall Street protesters by leading and escorting them onto the Brooklyn Bridge only to arrest them en masse for violating an order not to go on the bridge that no one heard.

Steven Rosenfeld of Alternet reports,

“This is the most significant and most defining legal case on protesters’ rights in the last 40 years, since the mass arrests of May Day 1970,” said Carl Messineo, Partnership for Civil Justice Fund legal director, which represented the protesters. “Mayor de Blasio seeks the authority to arrest today’s protesters in the same manner Mayor Bloomberg falsely arrested Occupy Wall Street protesters by the hundreds.”


Seeking to legitimize a practice of widespread false arrests by entrapping protesters is an egregious Fourth Amendment violation that deserves condemnation. This is no way to calm troubled waters. Instead it’s yet another reason, as if we needed one, to increase the protests.

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Fumesucker Dec 2014 OP
Faux pas Dec 2014 #1
Katashi_itto Dec 2014 #2
Lurks Often Dec 2014 #3
GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #4
Lurks Often Dec 2014 #5
GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #6
Lurks Often Dec 2014 #7
Fumesucker Dec 2014 #8
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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:02 AM

1. It just keeps getting scarier.

They've been allowed to run unchecked for too long.

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 08:19 AM

2. And we are supposed to care when they turn up dead?

 

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Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:14 AM

3. Why aren't people blaming de Blasio for this?

 

He would have had to sign off on allowing NYC to appeal the decision.

Or do people think de Blasio isn't in charge anymore and people who are subordinate to him are doing what they want?

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:18 AM

4. I'm going to guess that you didn't live in NYC when Dinkins was mayor.

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:29 AM

5. I did not n/t

 

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:32 AM

6. Police rioted against Dinkins, Giuliani played a key role

The NYPD assert their autonomy from time to time. The riot came after years of a slow down / pull back that left many areas of the City nearly lawless.

http://crooksandliars.com/2014/12/rudy-guiliani-knows-exactly-how-spark

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Response to GreatGazoo (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 10:36 AM

7. I don't doubt that, but it is NYC's lawyers filing the appeal, not NYPD

 

so my question stands, why aren't people blaming de Blasio, he either approved the appeal of the prior ruling or has lost control of at least some elements of people that work for him directly.

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Response to Lurks Often (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 11:12 AM

8. You are assuming de Blasio had control in the first place

I'm not at all sure that assumption is warranted.

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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 23, 2014, 01:06 PM

9. Perhaps or perhaps he isn't quite

 

the good progressive everybody thinks he is

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