Check this out...

[MrScorpio]

Do you see this? Do you see how unbothered they are? Absolutely no sympathy for the mother as she cries aloud. They don’t see her pain and they’re standing right next to her. When Antonio Martin was shot, he was still breathing, he died right where he laid. His mother watched her son die before her. The cop didn’t call the medical unit. That’s all the evidence you need to realize these cops don’t care!! Shooting to wound isn’t something they practice. Shoot to kill is

http://shesgotitlikethatfanfic.tumblr.com/post/106043629434/do-you-see-this-do-you-see-how-unbothered-they

[doc03]

1. You don't shoot to wound, if someone pulls a gun

on you it is your life or his.

[baldguy]

3. And if they don't pull a gun on you?

Eric Garner had no gun.
Michael Brown had no gun.
Tamir Rice had no gun.

Do we really want to have our police officers treat every member of the community they serve as if that person is ready and able to kill them?

Of course, the problem is the police only seem to treat brown people that way.

[doc03]

5. First of all that is still photo, two seconds later the scene could have been

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totally different. Second nobody said anything about those other incidents. Third the guy that shoots to wound is a fool and most likely a dead one.

[baldguy]

11. Right. And its just a convenient coincidence that the cop "forgot" to turn his body cam on.

Antonio Martin must have been a lawless thug - so he deserved to die.

Seems every black man killed by police turns out to be a lawless thug - in spite of all evidence otherwise.

[doc03]

15. I live in an area that mostly has a very low crime rate. There is a very small black population

but most violent crimes are black on black in a couple areas were they makeup the highest percentage of the population. The vast majority of them are not locals they are drug dealers from Chicago, Columbus
or Cleveland. In the last couple years we have had several murders by whites from the south working the oil and gas fields. It's running joke if you go
to Steubenville Ohio you better be armed.

[MrScorpio]

19. You know that all you're doing here is furthering the cause of white fear and white supremacy

The old "Blacks are inherently dangerous criminals meme."

[doc03]

23. I can turn on the 11 pm news and what seems like every few days we have a drive by

shooting and multiple drug arrests.The local black community wants it stopped just as much as anyone else, they have had marches to protest the crime problem here. They arrest these guys every week and it seems like for every one they arrest there are two more to take their place. We also have a growing violent crime problem with the oil and gas workers, most of them are good people. But there are the young single guys with tons of money that let off steam when they get off. We actually had one killed with an arrow last week.

[MrScorpio]

28. If the police and the media ONLY focus what's going on in the black community...

And ignores what's going on elsewhere, then of course, opinions like yours become prevalent. Not to mention the fact that you've expressed nothing but utter disregard for black lives while furthering your own expressions for fear ABOUT black people.

And that's the effect that white supremacy has on our society.

Every single point that you've made in this thread has been made from one point of defending white supremacy to another. And I absolutely understand why you refuse to see it. It's because it's main purpose is to make those who defend it and benefit from it blind to it.

[doc03]

33. What do they do, are they not reporting all those drive- by shootings

in the white neighborhoods? Come on I think many of these police shootings were murders but when you point a gun at a cop you get shot. I think Zimmerman should be in prison, the cop that shot the guy in the Walmart with the toy gun or the one that shot the 12 year old in Cleveland should be prosecuted. But when you resist arrest, try to take an officers gun or punch them or pull a gun on them, no.

[MrScorpio]

36. Look, you're not going to mount a convincing argument by employing cop propaganda...

It's a well known fact that law enforcement under-polices and under-reports white crime and in white neighborhoods. What did you think that the hashtag "#CrimingWhileWhite" was all about? Why do you thinking that the police employs the tactic of racial profiling against black people, even though statistically, whites are more likely to carry contraband?

Racist police policies and tactics... Has that ever occurred to you?

[doc03]

39. I wasn't aware of all these murders in my neighborhood going unreported. I am going to have to

start locking my doors and sleeping with a gun under my pillow.

[branford]

31. I don't want to get into an argument about the individual cases,

particularly since I would have supported indictments, but

1. Eric Garner was not shot. The police actually tried to subdue him without any weapons or, they claim, any lethal force. The extent of necessary force and Garner's health were the relevant issues, not guns.

2. It is alleged that Michael Brown reached for Wilson's sidearm, and the forensic evidence can arguably support such an allegation. Therefore, it's not technically accurate to conclusively state that he was "unarmed," as that would have been an issue for trial.

3. Tamir Rice was in possession of a replica pellet gun that would be difficult, if not impossible, to discern from a real firearm. Since the police dispatcher did not inform the officers that the firearm may be a replica, they had to act as if the gun was indeed real. Of course, that alone does not necessarily justify the officers' actions.

[baldguy]

52. You don't want to argue individual cases, but then you go and do exactly that.

Now try it without the RW spin.

[branford]

54. Sigh . . I knew I would regret a clinical post.

First, although I already made my positions clear, I supported indictments in the Garner and Brown cases, and the Rice matter is still under investigation.

However, the facts are the facts, and the law is the law. You claimed Brown and Rice were "unarmed," but such allegations would be in serious contention at any trial, particularly concerning Tamir Rice (I'm a trial attorney, btw). Moreover, the Garner case simply did not involve firearms in any way by either the police or Garner. Your citation of Garner made no sense in the context of your post.

You are free to allege "RW spin," but factual inaccuracies or legal liberties helps neither the victims, the families, nor the cause of ending racial disparities in the justice system.

[MrScorpio]

4. I take it that you're ONLY believing the police version of events. OK...

But that's not the ONLY version of events out there:

He was 18
He was unarmed
He was with his mother and girlfriend when he was shot @ 11:30pm last night (Dec. 23, 2014) by police
He was shot for fitting the description of a suspect
He was alive for 30 mins after he was shot
Police left his body there for 2 hours
Instead of calling for an ambulance police called for crowd control
Police wouldn’t let his mother comfort him while he laid there dying
Police planted a gun after there were pictures of there being no gun
Police body cams were off
Police dash cam was off
Police used security footage that cuts off right before the shooting
Police put his body in the back of an suv like he was something other than human
Police laughed at people grieving in the crowd

http://dettolmami.tumblr.com/post/106072456377/can-you-fill-me-in-on-what-happened-to-antonio

[doc03]

6. So you believe some bullshit on the internet and not an actual video

of the incident and the gun used. Just what would satisfy you a couple dead cops?

[MrScorpio]

12. So much wrong with your post here...

Would you care to take a moment and reconsider it?

[uponit7771]

48. I don't see a gun in the video, you can claim it's there all you want!!!

[giftedgirl77]

10. This here says it all...

[Cha]

14. thank for this, Mr S :(

[baldguy]

2. That's why the RW media always always portrays victims of police violence as thugs, gang-bangers

and n****rs. It's makes it easier for these "public servants" to have a callous disregard for the suffering they cause if they deprive the dead & the loved ones of the dead of their humanity.

[X_Digger]

7. Wait, who's the telepsychic in this picture? Or are we supposed to be psychics?

Having had to tell family members that someone died (as a medical professional, not a cop), I'm used to seeing professionals staying detached. You keep your shit together while everyone around you is losing theirs. There's time enough to lose your shit when you're away from the public.

[LiberalElite]

8. I agree with you -

it's professional detachment, no matter how distasteful, out of touch or cruel it appears.

[Kablooie]

9. Shooting an unarmed man is totally different from shooting someone aiming a gun at you.

If Martin pulled a gun out the consequences are his fault.
Police have a perfect right to shoot someone who pulls out a gun.
It's a stupid, criminal thing to do because you know you will be killed immediately after.

I'm completely sympathetic with the victims who had no weapons but completely unsympathetic with the ones who did.
I can sympathize with Martin's family also but I can't blame the cops in this instance.

[MrScorpio]

13. Hence we see how effective a well known police tactic dropping a gun after killing the unarmed is

[doc03]

16. What evidence do you have that they dropped a gun?....

[MrScorpio]

17. I showed it to you earlier...

You chose not to accept it because it didn't agree with your narrative.

[_Blue_]

26. It's nonsense.

The gun is by the Orange cone.

[Drunken Irishman]

27. What evidence do you have that he pointed a gun?

[uponit7771]

42. Exactly!!

[ohheckyeah]

18. Makes one wonder. n/t

[MrScorpio]

20. We should never forget...

[ohheckyeah]

21. I'm all too familiar with law enforcement attitudes. n/t

[MrScorpio]

22. Others need to be reminded however...

[ohheckyeah]

24. Those stats are

horrifying.

[MrScorpio]

25. Frankly, I have no idea why people defend the police here...

Unless, of course, they agree with the horrible stuff that's happening.

[ohheckyeah]

32. Maybe they haven't gotten past what they were told as children. I don't know.

I worked for federal law enforcement briefly - it turned my stomach.

[doc03]

37. Because every time they have to shoot someone that happens to be black

they are not always wrong. You have a home invasion tonight who do you call?

[MrScorpio]

41. I live in a mostly white neighborhood...

So if I do call the cops and they come to my house, there's two things to consider... One, I hope that they don't mistake me for the perp that was reported invading my own home and two, if they would shoot the actual home invader, it'll more than likely a white guy.

[doc03]

46. Well don't pull a gun on the cops. And what the fuck if it's

a white guy shoot him since they would if he was black.

[MrScorpio]

49. Really?

White Teen Totes Loaded Gun, Argues With Police & Walks Away Unscathed

For years, Colorado has been at the center of multiple mass shooting headlines.

In the past 15 years there has been 6 deadly shootings. This includes Columbine, Arapahoe High School and Platte Canyon High School Hostage Crisis. But, the most dangerous of them all was the “Dark Knight Shooting,”when James Holmes walked into a packed movie theater and opened fire. He killed 12 people and wounded seventy.

Police are always on high alert and trained to act just in case something goes down. But do they use every facet of their training when dealing with white teens and just open season of blacks?

As the story goes, police respond quickly to several calls about a teen who was walking down the street with a loaded gun in hand. They soon found it was Steve Lohner, 18, who claims to feel more ‘comfortable’ with a gun.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/12/white-teen-totes-loaded-gun-argues-with-police-walks-away-unscathed-picture-3073296.html

More Hypocrisy: Man Pointing Gun At Police and Children Not Killed By Police

More news has been discovered giving validation to the belief that only black men are shot and killed by the police.

A video released from August 7th, 2014 reveals police responding to a man, Lance Tamayo (age 45), waiving and pointing a gun at men, women, and children in Mission Bay Park, San Diego, but not fatally shooting to kill the individual.

man+with+gun1This is a stark contrast to the what has been seen in the media where unarmed, black men have

http://urbanintellectuals.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/man+with+gun1.jpg

http://urbanintellectuals.com/2014/08/28/more-hypocrisy-man-pointing-gun-at-police-and-children-not-killed-by-police/

The Science of Why Cops Shoot Young Black Men

"You're not, like, a total racist bastard," David Amodio tells me. He pauses. "Today."

I'm sitting in the soft-spoken cognitive neuroscientist's spotless office nestled within New York University's psychology department, but it feels like I'm at the doctor's, getting a dreaded diagnosis. On his giant monitor, Amodio shows me a big blob of data, a cluster of points depicting where people score on the Implicit Association Test. The test measures racial prejudices that we cannot consciously control. I've taken it three times now. This time around my uncontrolled prejudice, while clearly present, has come in significantly below the average for white people like me.
That certainly beats the first time I took the IAT online, on the website UnderstandingPrejudice.org. That time, my results showed a "strong automatic preference" for European Americans over African Americans. That was not a good thing to hear, but it's extremely common—51 percent of online test takers show moderate to strong bias.

Taking the IAT, one of the most popular tools among researchers trying to understand racism and prejudice, is both extremely simple and pretty traumatic. The test asks you to rapidly categorize images of faces as either "African American" or "European American" while you also categorize words (like "evil," "happy," "awful," and "peace&quot as either "good" or "bad." Faces and words flash on the screen, and you tap a key, as fast as you can, to indicate which category is appropriate.

Sometimes you're asked to sort African American faces and "good" words to one side of the screen. Other times, black faces are to be sorted with "bad" words. As words and faces keep flashing by, you struggle not to make too many sorting mistakes.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/11/science-of-racism-prejudice

[doc03]

29. How many hours between them shooting whites is there? Hey if you show me where it

doesn't happen I will agree we have a problem.

[MrScorpio]

30. So, are you saying that blacks represent an inherent threat to whites in this country? nt

[doc03]

34. No I am saying how many whites have been killed by the police? Zero

ten a hundred. Show me that it doesn't happen. Whites commit crimes too if you show me a cop never shoots them
I agree there is a serious problem.

[MrScorpio]

40. So, you think that the deferrence that cops give to white "suspects," by not killing them...

...Helps your own argument???

[doc03]

43. So no whites ever get killed by cops. Now just who is the

racist here?

[MrScorpio]

45. Saying that whites never get shot by cops is your own strawman argument, not mine.

Of course, the police shoot some white people. But the fact of the matter is that blacks are more likely to be killed by the police than are whites.

But it's not like I'm ever expecting you of making at least any factual points in your own defense. You don't seem to be accustomed to that sort of thing.

[doc03]

47. It's your story so stick to it, the cops go out on every shift

looking for some black guy to frame for a crime and shoot him in the process. Good night.

[MrScorpio]

50. It's appalling...

...That we all in live a country where the police racially profile and kill innocent people.

It's equally appalling when people defend the police after they do it.

[uponit7771]

51. Nah, just easier to pull a trigger if you feel you're shooting an animal... that's what

... the SL area PD called people who were excercising the 1a

[uponit7771]

44. omg

[MrScorpio]

38. If I were you, I'd be embarrassed with being so utterly classless and ignorant.

But it's not like you're even smart enough to understand that, are you?

[Jamaal510]

53. K&R

[Gothmog]

55. This is very telling

The lack of compassion is obvious