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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe NYPD is disrespectful to our elected leaders and needs to be reined in
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Let them go on strike. Let's see if the public backs them.
A big clean sweep of the NYPD Union is needed.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)full shift everyday. At this point the PBA leadership has to work a few days a week, and the mayor could order them to work a full day.
The mayor will not do this but it is an option.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)chickenfairy
(33 posts)And I would back them. De blasio needs to step down.
BumRushDaShow
(128,456 posts)Right on cue!
2naSalit
(86,324 posts)aint it the truth?
Deny and Shred
(1,061 posts)You and your 6 posts speak for not only NYC but all of the world. When YOU say he needs to step down, its like you are EF Hutton and we'd be foolish not to listen.
Cha
(296,848 posts)DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)I am the NYC public
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(296,848 posts)Long Drive
(105 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)You just do.
Long Drive
(105 posts)Try again.
Rex
(65,616 posts)Food for thought.
CatWoman
(79,293 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)Just asking for clarification.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)Congratulations! But I think the police who turned their backs at the funeral were incredibly disrespectful toward the people of NYC. I like your library though.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)within the policing power structure otherwise there will be further degradation of the rights of public gathering and the protection of private citizens. We will be suppressed by the police wearing the uniforms of fascism. Corporately owned by the very 1% who manufacture the weapons they use along with special protection because, let's say...they're "special".
Sweeney
(505 posts)defend the privileges of church and property it is a case of privilege defending privilege. Where are the unprivileged people to go other than to each other for a fair hearing of their cause?
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)most hard-core anarchists accept the need for some type of constabulary force. The question. as always, is whence that constabulary's legitimacy derives.
Sweeney
(505 posts)To attack the people is to attack the law.
Sweeney
(505 posts)At a minimum the people have the right to demand their rights and respect in return. These people are not enforcing law as some sort of abstraction. Law is right, and right is right to people, if not according to legal gibberish.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)but I think things need to change.
On several levels.
TerrapinFlyer
(277 posts)eom
cwydro
(51,308 posts)pet peeve.
We all make typos.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)I don't know if you want to see their bad behavior.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)mistaken. This little stunt is despicable. Grow up officers.
DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)So am I. So is damn near everyone on this board, when said elected leaders happen to be Republican.
There's plenty of legitimate stuff to smack them for -- "disrespecting our leader" sounds a wee bit too name-the-dictatorship-of-your-choice to me.
TerrapinFlyer
(277 posts)This is not a free-for-all, individual do NOT get to choose how the organization operates.
It's called insubordination.
If the police want to express their PERSONAL opinions as citizens, let them do it OUT OF UNIFORM.
branford
(4,462 posts)and there is an entire body of law on the subject. The police are not the military, and they do not lose their rights just because they wear a uniform.
Also note that the police are employed by the city, not the mayor. The police also answer to the police commissioner, not the mayor.
The police are public employees like any other. They have broad first amendment and other constitutional rights, are governed primarily by a collective bargaining agreement, and are protected by a number of other federal, state and city labor laws.
Their job is to enforce and uphold the law, not offer political support to the mayor. They are generally permitted to "disrespect" him, and any order which demanded otherwise would unlawful.
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starroute
(12,977 posts)For one thing, "The Commissioner is appointed by the Mayor, and serves at the Mayor's pleasure." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Police_Commissioner) So the mayor has every right to demand that the police commissioner keep his own forces in line as the price of retaining his position.
For another, this is hardly a case of free speech or of not offering "political support to the mayor." This is about a group of public servants abusing their uniforms to demand that a mayor elected with overwhelming popular support resign because they don't like his orders that they tone down stop and frisk and not smash in the heads of protesters.
Every government operates on a fine balance of legitimate authority and coercive force -- but it's not an even balance, because the coercive force becomes no better than mob rule without that authority to back it up. The NYPD is rejecting legitimate authority and attempting to institute rule by raw power in its place. And that is a threat to the very foundations of democratic government.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Cha
(296,848 posts)Cha
(296,848 posts)Nerdy Wonka @NerdyWonka
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NYPD demanded #BlackLivesMatter protesters suspend their protests; yet they politicize a funeral.
Shameful.
7:05 AM - 27 Dec 2014
http://theobamadiary.com/2014/12/27/photo-of-the-year-july-august/
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Support real unions, which has nothing to do with police (or millionaire pro ballplayers, for that matter).
jimlup
(7,968 posts)That it won't be speaks volumes about us and our culture.
Turn it around and imagine the condemnation it would recieve.
Lucky Luciano
(11,248 posts)...seem to overwhelmingly support the police.
Of course...it is a white town...and one of the few towns in Westchester that is not rich - so a lot if police officers lived there.
Got into an argument with an ignorant fool on FB that became a cop in my hometown who was referring to Michael brown as a thug etc...usual talking points...then she posted photos of dead cops asking when I would protest for them...even though their killers are most likely dead or in prison...a lot of ignorance. This fool threw all credibility out the window when she said this is a racist country against whites.
That woman is probably a typical cop in today's America.
brooklynite
(94,333 posts)I suspect you'd find most people would either support the police or not choose sides between the police and the Mayor.