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Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:19 PM

Would Be A Shame If Something Happened To Your City There, Bill

Would Be A Shame If Something Happened To Your City There, Bill
Posted by Zandar


New York’s Finest, at their finest:

NYPD traffic tickets and summonses for minor offenses have dropped off by a staggering 94 percent following the execution of two cops — as officers feel betrayed by the mayor and fear for their safety, The Post has learned.

The dramatic drop comes as Police Commissioner Bill Bratton and Mayor Bill de Blasio plan to hold anemergency summit on Tuesday with the heads of the five police unions to try to close the widening rift between cops and the administration.

The unprecedented meeting is being held at the new Police Academy in Queens at 2 p.m., sources said.

Angry union leaders have ordered drastic measures for their members since the Dec. 20 assassination of two NYPD cops in a patrol car, including that two units respond to every call.

It has helped contribute to a nose dive in low-level policing, with overall arrests down 66 percent for the week starting Dec. 22 compared with the same period in 2013, stats show.

Citations for traffic violations fell by 94 percent, from 10,069 to 587, during that time frame.
http://nypost.com/2014/12/29/arrests-plummet-following-execution-of-two-cops/


So your brilliant, devious plan is this: you’re going to show the people who believe that the NYPD is full of power-hungry bullies and paramilitary goons what for by displaying to the country exactly how most of the collars you make are in fact wholly unnecessary exercises of petty microagression towards the citizenry you hold in open and rancorous contempt.

Okay then. Go with that plan, guys.

The Thin Blue Line, indeed.

http://www.balloon-juice.com/2014/12/30/would-be-a-shame-if-something-happened-to-your-city-there-bill/#comments

......their antics in the face of criticism proves in living color what we see in so many individual incidents: they don't just want respect, they want submission. They will brook no discussion and accept no accountability, have no use for psychology or patience because the weapons in their holsters should be sufficient to gain instant compliance. We cannot call ourselves a free society as long as that is the case.

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2014/12/an-nypd-work-stoppage.html



The Thin-Skinned Blue Line
NYPD COPS SO SAD AT MAYOR DE BLASIO THEY JUST CAN’T FIGHT CRIME ANYMORE
http://wonkette.com/570483/nypd-cops-so-sad-at-mayor-de-blasio-they-just-cant-fight-crime-anymore

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Reply Would Be A Shame If Something Happened To Your City There, Bill (Original post)
kpete Dec 2014 OP
nichomachus Dec 2014 #1
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nichomachus Dec 2014 #6
madokie Dec 2014 #22
tblue37 Dec 2014 #50
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kpete Dec 2014 #7
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Ernesto Dec 2014 #8
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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:22 PM

1. Sounds good to me

Most of those arrests were bogus anyway.

If it works, maybe they can start laying off cops.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:24 PM

3. There is that, isnt there. Maybe NY dont need all these cops.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:27 PM

6. Actually, many of these citations for minor offenses

Are bogus charges to harass people -- mostly black folks.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:19 PM

22. I'd just about bet money on that

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:32 PM

50. +1,000,000! nt

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 05:13 PM

72. And to fill the coffers...

They are running out of ways to get money from the poor...

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Response to randys1 (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:29 PM

7. Ta-Nahesi Coates makes a good point:

Ta-Nehisi CoatesVerified account
‏@tanehisicoates
"NYPD officers are making arrests only 'when they have to,' leading to a massive drop in their response to low-level crimes."
https://twitter.com/tanehisicoates/status/549981689192411137

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Response to kpete (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:44 PM

24. So, in other words, they've been making arrests when they DIDN'T have to. Well, that's

what the protesters have been saying.

This might work out very well for the people of NY.

And if does, they can reduce the number of cops they have in that city which will save the city money.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #24)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 07:54 PM

73. Actually,

They "have to" because it's part of their job. They just don't do it very well.

Both New York State and New York City tax cigarettes, so the the police are charged with issuing tickets to anyone selling cigarettes on the street. It's against the law precisely because it interferes with the city's revenue stream.

So...less law enforcement, more cigarettes brought in from across state lines, more cigarettes sold illegally, fewer sold legally, fewer taxes paid.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:28 PM

59. The revenue stream that is traffic tickets

may just force City Hall's hand on that. This is no small amount of revenue they're cutting off. Usually nationwide, law enforcement officers justify their budgets by maintaining these easy revenue streams.

They're cutting off their noses...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:23 PM

2. Who is Zandar? Or what? But yes, as I said the cops turning their backs is a DIRECT THREAT

and this is the execution of that threat.

Fire them all, one at a time, while you retrain and rehire cops who dont have to carry guns since we started enforcing the 2nd amendment and moved ALL citizen's guns to locked up, well regulated militias.

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Response to randys1 (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:41 PM

15. Their work stoppage IS a security threat to the biggest city in the country, so yeah, fire them.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:25 PM

4. Time for layoffs

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 03:26 PM

5. Well I Guess Police Officier Reduction in Force is Appropriate

What with all those officers with no one to arrest

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:18 PM

8. FIRE 'EM..... they are a police force, not a political force!

In '67, I had a pretty cush USMC job on Okinawa until I talked back to a sergeant. The next week I was transferred to an infantry battalion in Vietnam just in time just in time to "enjoy" the Tet offensive.


http://www.truthdig.com/cartoon/item/respect_20141230

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Response to Ernesto (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:41 AM

34. You do realize that the police are not military,

 

and are protected by all the same constitutional, statutory and contractual protections as all other public employees.

They are most certainly entitled to be a "political force," as is anyone else in the city, state and nation.

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Response to branford (Reply #34)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:09 AM

38. They shouldnt be. FTP!

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Response to branford (Reply #34)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 10:17 AM

40. Disagree

If this was a teachers union and they were practicing their "political force" on the job all hell would be breaking loose. NO they are no allowed to exercise their "political force" on the job.

All this because the Mayor had the nerve to state he gave the same speech every father gives their sons. It may be a more important speech for a black kid but we all give that speech.

These guys are out of control.

If they aren't going to do their job then call out the National Guard!

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Response to Ernesto (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:02 AM

42. OT, but wonder whether the same plane that took you to Vietnam also carried Westmoreland when

 

he gave his (in)famous 'light at the end of the tunnel' comments at Tan Son Nhut. I'll never get that little clip out of my head (as seen in the documentary Vietnam: A Television History).

Welcome home and peace!

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Response to KingCharlemagne (Reply #42)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:59 PM

61. Westmoreland had no idea

that his "light at the end of the tunnel" was the front of an oncoming train.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:22 PM

9. “Is this about politics or is it about working through problems?”

sez the guy who started the whole fight and all the animosity.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #9)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:07 AM

43. AKA: Chutzpah (although, to be fair, Mullins is head of the

 

Sergeants Benevolent Association, as opposed to Lynch, who heads the PBA).

Still, good on you to hammer the comment. Hope the Times does too.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:43 PM

10. Is dereliction of duty a fireable offense in the NYPD?

 

I'm dusgusted I should even have to ask that, but...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 04:45 PM

11. Criminals go on strike. And the people they arrest can breathe. n/t

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:36 PM

12. 35000 cops, 5 Boroughs. NYC doesn't need 7000 cops per borough.

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:37 PM

13. Start laying them asses off.

 

- Austerity happens.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:40 PM

14. four words

Reagan. Air traffic controllers.

Consider this, the best paragraph of all from what kpete has posted above. This was written by the blog balloonjuice:

So your brilliant, devious plan is this: you’re going to show the people who believe that the NYPD is full of power-hungry bullies and paramilitary goons what for by displaying to the country exactly how most of the collars you make are in fact wholly unnecessary exercises of petty microagression towards the citizenry you hold in open and rancorous contempt.

To put it in plain terms, the police have the mayor's dick in a wringer because the city depends on extorted $$ from low-income people.

That is due to a faulty arrangement about which DeBlasio had no say. It's kind of like the dickhead deal dealt to Obama by Bush/Cheney.

The police account for a good percentage of the city's income through, as stated above, "petty microagression (sic) towards the citizenry you hold in open and rancorous contempt."

This will be real interesting.

And kpete, thanks for a valuable post. This is an issue I've been tracking for the last 10 months. It looks like it's about to burst wide open, not withstanding a devil's deal between the police union and the mayor.



Cher



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Response to NJCher (Reply #14)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:38 PM

51. Just like in Ferguson, where the city is funded by harrassing its majority

black citizens.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:42 PM

16. Union thuggery: This is how you do it.

 

Pity that this degree of solidarity can't be utilized by unions for legitimate reasons.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:43 PM

17. NYC will soon return to the dystopian hell of the 70's at this rate

 

Sounds like the billionaires there will have to hire their own Pinkerton police forces.

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Response to ErikJ (Reply #17)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 10:20 AM

41. I don't think so. Jobs are booming here right now.

 

I think one of the characteristics of the 70's that contributed to the disaster here in NYC was the high unemployment rate.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 05:54 PM

18. This is all about 'support' for the police, of course. Nothing to do with contract negotiations.

This has nothing to do with De Blasio. If they're going to pull an unofficial work stoppage every time they don't get what they want, the NYPD is about to become a bona fide political force.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #18)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:46 AM

35. The NYPD has been a very strong political force for decades,

 

and have have fought with every mayor, including law and order conservatives like Rudy Giuliani.

If there was any doubt about how the NYPD can help destroy a mayor, yet remain largely popular, one simply has to study the now virtually anonymous, one term NYC mayor, David Dinkins.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/news-and-events/quinnipiac-university-poll/new-york-city/release-detail?ReleaseID=2120

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/new-yorkers-who-like-cops-dont-like-de-blasio/



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Response to branford (Reply #35)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:11 AM

44. Giuliani helped incite a police riot against Dinkins. - nt

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 06:16 PM

19. FIVE police unions?

Hell, most working people can't even get one. One for each borough, huh? Too many cops.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 10:59 PM

31. no, apparently there is the pba, and one for each rank, or something like that.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #19)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:49 AM

36. The different unions represent different grades and divisions of officers.

 

For instance, Lynch is the president of the PBA who represents the majority rank-and-file patrol officers.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:08 PM

20. Thin blue skin

 

I have an idea I will be expanding upon. I think we should abolish the police.
Let the corporations and the banks and the rich people pay for their own security.
We have the sheriff to enforce the local laws and ordinances and the local streets. We have the State patrol to
patrol the hyways and of course to guard the governor.
We have the national guard in case of emergency and its a good idea tpo use them so they are ready.
Then you have the army.
We dont need these thugs preying on our citizens. Attacking our citizens. I think that when the police refuse to do their job they will find that society works better without them.
Now you may say, what about when some one commits a crime? I say that if some one wants to commit a crime they are going to commit a crime and the police will try to find out who dunit and stuff but they never get your stuff back. They write a report. Deputies can do that job. Sheriffs are elected. Deputies serve the sherif.
So we could not only save a bundle of money we would gain our freedom back.

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Response to maindawg (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:31 PM

23. Their own security beginning at their gate/door, not beyond

We have the local cops, sheriffs, Cherokee Nation Police and the Oklahoma Hiway Patrol already prowling our streets now. You can hardly get around with out bumping in to one or the other as it is. We don't need to be adding any private blackwater or Xe or whatever the fuck they call themselves now a days added to the mix

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:13 PM

21. So in effect, they're providing data to support less police officers and highlighting

the bullshit they do on a daily basis...

Dumb pigs, need a new plan..they look totally busted from here.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:51 PM

26. so succinct. thank you.

 

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Response to elehhhhna (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:35 PM

30. You're welcome....I hope they keep this up for the next 6 months, at the very least. n/t

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #21)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:47 PM

53. When cops went on strike in Acapulco, Mexico, the citizens didn't want them back.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #53)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:07 PM

67. Ha ha, exposes a good deal more than they bargained for..thanks for the link.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:46 PM

25. What would Reagan do? n/t

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #25)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:44 PM

60. That elicited an evil laugh in my head

And I put Reagan up there with the worst of humanity!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 07:59 PM

27. LAPD has significantly smaller force

and larger geographic area to patrol and the beat and kill their citizens just fine. NYC is not getting the most bang for their buck.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:05 PM

28. Sounds to me like they don't need all those cops issuing bogus tickets for minor violations.

This may backfire on them big time. The citizens of NY make decide it's very nice not having cops on every corner writing tickets for every little slip up or minor infraction.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 08:06 PM

29. NYPD...there will be a million people in times square tomorrow night. best do your job.

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Response to spanone (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 30, 2014, 11:02 PM

32. ugh--suddenly I thought of agents provocateurs.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 12:35 AM

33. Fire those cops!

 

Hasta la vista, bay-bee...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:02 AM

37. The safety of New York City residents, workers and tourists

 

will not be demonstrably affected by the lack of enforcement of ticketing offenses like traffic and parking violations or laws against public urination. Additionally, those protesters who believe that the police will not make any arrests, could face very unwelcome surprises.

These minor citations, however, represent a large and very important source of income for the City. The police will be paid regardless of of whether the city's income declines, as it is guaranteed by their contracts. Matters like social services and support for poor communities, politically important individuals and areas for a liberal Mayor deBlasio, will not be as lucky and could feel the pinch. Conservative, largely white and even well to do liberal communities, where the police remain very popular, will hardly notice any police work slow-down.

There is certainly much to complain about concerning the police unions' conduct, but they are definitely not stupid and their tactics are honed by years of experience to severely target their political opponents without impacting supporters.

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Response to branford (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:51 AM

47. Yep. The tickets are about the income to the city.

They want to hurt the mayor in the pocketbook.

So, just send home half of the daily force. Save the money in salaries.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #47)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:56 PM

55. They can't send the officers home, no less not pay them.

 

Staffing levels and similar matters are generally guaranteed by the various police union collective bargaining agreements.

The only real way for the mayor, through the police commissioner, to fight the work slow-down would be mass officer discipline. This would be a major escalation in the conflict with the unions, something that deBlasio is desperate to avoid, particularly since the City could well lose the ensuing labor grievances and potential lawsuits, thereby humiliating the mayor and strengthening the unions further, particularly the PBA which is about to start binding arbitration on their new contract.

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Response to branford (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:51 PM

54. It would be better to fund a city with appropriate (and *fair*) taxes than by

making almost *everything* a minor offense that one can be fined for--at the discretion of a bullying, power-tripping cop with a bunch of prejudices against a variety of vulnerable groups.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #54)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:10 PM

56. Increase taxes even more in NYC?

 

First, funding through traffic citations and other matters is standard practice in most cities and towns, and is hardly unique or notable in NYC.

In any event, I certainly hope you're not from around here, because we already face some of the highest taxes and fees in the nation, and raising them further is a big political loser, particularly among liberal middle and upper class whites and Asians that deBlasio needs for reelection. Moreover, in order to actually increase taxes, the City would likely require state approval in Albany, which would not be forthcoming from a Republican state senate and a Democratic governor who is desperate not to take antagonize the police unions statewide and create his own political problems. DeBlasio is on his own to resolve matters in the city.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #54)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:36 PM

69. You're correct but Cuomo has been too busy making sure the wealthy are protected:

In a State of the State address largely devoid of the progressive policy proposals he floated last year, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo decided this year to lay out a lavish buffet of tax cuts that disproportionately benefit large corporations and the rich. Cuomo is proposing $2 billion in "tax relief" phased in over three years, a package impressive enough to prompt the Republican State Senate Leader Dean Skelos to admiringly describe him as a "good, moderate Republican." (Rule of thumb in the age of hyper-partisanship: If a Republican calls you a Republican, you are probably a Republican.)

The supply-side economic theories that underlie Cuomo’s tax cut proposals have had fat cats laughing all the way to the bank since long before Arthur Laffer devised his dubious curve, despite the fact that these theories have been widely discredited. And yet the Governor is determined to throw his muscle behind them. True, he does toss a couple of bones to renters and middle-class property owners, but the bulk of his cuts are reserved for wealthy individuals and corporations, benefitting Wall Street banks more than the ordinary taxpayers and manufacturers they purport to champion. While the cuts are unlikely to significantly increase economic growth or create jobs, they are certain to deprive the state of much-needed revenue at a time when the administration itself projects a $1.7 billion deficit for the current fiscal year. They’re also sure to increase inequality in a state that already ranks No. 1 in the nation in that unfortunate category.

The most galling of Cuomo’s proposals, however, is a huge giveaway to the rich in the form of sharply reduced estate taxes. Currently, New York offers a $1 million estate tax exemption. In other words, wealthy New Yorkers can pass on an estate worth $1 million (after deductions) without paying a cent in estate taxes. For estates larger than $1 million, the rate starts at a whopping 5 percent and rises to all of 16 percent for estates larger than $10 million. (By comparison, workers in New York start paying a state income tax rate of 5 percent when they earn around $22,000.) Spouses are exempt from the estate tax, and a labyrinth of waivers, trusts and other exemptions allows wealthy individuals and their estate planners to shelter large portions of even the largest estates. Still, estate and gift taxes bring in over $1 billion annually, accounting for almost 2 percent of New York’s total tax revenue.

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/21408-state-of-the-estate-cuomos-tax-giveaway-to-the-rich

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 09:12 AM

39. If they don't do their jobs, fire them.

That, of course, won't happen, but maybe their hissy fit will demonstrate that about half the petty-ass tickets they write are a waste of time and it's probably time to downsize the force.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #39)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:19 PM

57. Define "waste of time?"

 

Those "petty-ass tickets" fund a great deal in NYC, as they do in a great many other towns and cities. Given overall state and city union strength, tight budgets, already very high taxes and fees, and the need for state approval for most tax increases that will not happen, the loss of revenue will ultimately affect the most vulnerable and core constituencies of our liberal mayor.

As I said in an earlier post and you appear to acknowledge, mass discipline of the officers involved in the work slow-down is probably not possible for legal, political and practical reasons. The unions know exactly what they're doing and who'll be the most affected without a resolution. I only wish all unions were as cohesive and determined.

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Response to branford (Reply #57)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:42 PM

64. I imagine the lawsuits paid out after citizens are murdered

for such major offenses as selling loose cigarettes would impact the budget, too.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #64)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:30 PM

68. Those anticipated lawsuits are already baked into the budget,

 

as they are in every major urban center. More importantly, most allegations of unjustified police violence occur in far more serious situations that are not covered by the current work slow-down. Traffic tickets and similar matters rarely result in lawsuits against the city, but account for a staggeringly large stream of needed revenue.

Ironically, the enforcement of loose cigarette laws and similar matters are supported by administrations, both liberal and conservative, because they bypass taxes and deny the city and state revenue. The police will be more than happy to temporarily stop enforcement of minor revenue generating ordinances and laws. Their salaries are guaranteed by contract. The mayor and the poor, however, will suffer.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:18 AM

45. Renegotiate their pay

Seems to me less work should result in less pay, isn't that capitalism?

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Response to Pantagruelsmember (Reply #45)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 02:20 PM

58. You are apparently unfamiliar with union contracts and strength in NYS and NYC. nt

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 11:42 AM

46. where's the NRA blowhards now...

they'd be screaming about the lack of protection and not being able to carry Sweetness because of the city's own pistol permitting vs the rest of the state.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:23 PM

48. So with all that crime going unpunished and unpoliced...

are the criminals of NYC running wild, are the streets running red with blood? Is everyone barricaded in their homes in fear?

Or were all those tickets and arrests and stop-and-frisks just the petty and systematic harassment of a generally law-abiding populace?

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Response to bhikkhu (Reply #48)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:47 PM

65. The tickets had nothing to do with crime.

They are to provide revenue to the city. If a parking violation does not get a ticket no one is worried about it -- except the city Revenue Department.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:24 PM

49. They announced that murders are down in NYC also

 

but it's probably not related.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 01:41 PM

52. You need to add parentheses.

 

It's what I started doing a while back. The proper way to write it IMO is thus. The Thin Blue Li(n)e.

Oh, and NYPD, fuck off you pathetic douchebags. Unless one is a member here in good standing of course, I'd never say that to a member of DU.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:15 PM

62. Hmm, they better watch what they are asking for.

They might prove that police aren't as needed as they thought?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 03:40 PM

63. as long as they are guaranteed to be payed and can not be held accountable wat da fuck do de care .

We already know there is a lot they do not care a fuck about and are not held accountable for
Not surprised they can get away with this too and they will sway the meeting i suppose

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:00 PM

66. I don't put it past some kind of provocation by law enforcement tonight. I hope the public is wise

 

enough to not fall for what could b coming. A lot of those law enforcement officials are vicious.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:40 PM

70. Getting a little tired of the whining

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 04:41 PM

71. And tonight being New Year's Eve...nt

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