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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:32 PM Jan 2015

So what are the chances of a Democrat being elected following a 2-term Democrat?

I was told at dinner tonight it's only happened once before, in the mid-1800s. Buchanan followed Polk.

And its only happened once for rethugs, good ole Georgie boy on the coattails of Reagan.

Is this true?

Does it matter?

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So what are the chances of a Democrat being elected following a 2-term Democrat? (Original Post) RiverLover Jan 2015 OP
Doesn't matter. djean111 Jan 2015 #1
Fabulous. Just great. That rings too true, djean. RiverLover Jan 2015 #2
Bazinga! hollysmom Jan 2015 #36
Good, if everyone shows up to vote. If they don't, then congratulations Cleita Jan 2015 #3
when we vote we win VanillaRhapsody Jan 2015 #4
+++ 1,000,000,000,000,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Jan 2015 #26
Before Obama, we were told repeatedly how rare it is for Senators to become President. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #5
Very true, good point. That's encouraging! nt RiverLover Jan 2015 #7
You were misinformed. OilemFirchen Jan 2015 #6
My guy followed a Democrat? RiverLover Jan 2015 #9
Huh? OilemFirchen Jan 2015 #10
I'm an FDR dem. FDR followed a republican pres, Hoover. He died and his VP became pres, Truman. RiverLover Jan 2015 #18
FDR was elected following a two-term Democrat. OilemFirchen Jan 2015 #23
LOL ya got me. RiverLover Jan 2015 #24
and two words: Harry Truman, elected after 3-term FDR. Long Democratic presidency. kwassa Jan 2015 #20
He wasn't elected his first term. He was VP when FDR died. nt RiverLover Jan 2015 #22
So what? Continuous Democratic presidents for 20 years. kwassa Jan 2015 #28
He was completing FDR term, he could have been elected two times, as in LBJ Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #29
Actually, kwassa made a great point. OilemFirchen Jan 2015 #30
Gore won, FDR won a third term (which counts too) Motown_Johnny Jan 2015 #8
I just read on Huffpo that Ds in the senate got millions more votes than Rs 2014 RiverLover Jan 2015 #13
Kasich?! Boreal Jan 2015 #42
Buchanan followed Franklin Pierce, who was a one-termer Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #11
Thanks Art. I wish I'd known all that at dinner! RiverLover Jan 2015 #16
I've been interested in Presidential trivia since my mom gave me a sticker book of Presidents Art_from_Ark Jan 2015 #32
About 10%. CK_John Jan 2015 #12
Technically is has been all dems since Clinton rainy Jan 2015 #14
??? I don't even want to know what ur saying here... nt RiverLover Jan 2015 #25
I think WhiteAndNerdy Jan 2015 #37
That's right! rainy Jan 2015 #39
Truman Recursion Jan 2015 #15
Truman wasn't elected after FDR. He was VP when FDR died. nt RiverLover Jan 2015 #21
What? He will be surprised he didn't beat Thomas Dewey in the election of 1948. kwassa Jan 2015 #27
He first became president in 1945, following President FDR's death. RiverLover Jan 2015 #31
What is your point? He was elected. 1948. No Republican intervening. kwassa Jan 2015 #34
He still won the next election after FDR's last re-election. Ken Burch Jan 2015 #41
He was the next President elected after FDR (nt) Recursion Jan 2015 #44
demographics favor democrats more than they use to compared to recent decades JI7 Jan 2015 #17
Since the Roosevelt-Truman years it's been "8 and rotate" with only one exception Bucky Jan 2015 #19
It happened in 2000 as well Bagsgroove Jan 2015 #33
I think the chances vary if Mitt Romney is running in opposition hollysmom Jan 2015 #35
With the stupidity of the American voter anything can happen ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #38
1836: Martin Van Buren succeeded Andrew Jackson Ken Burch Jan 2015 #40
The demographics are in our favor JonLP24 Jan 2015 #43
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Doesn't matter.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:34 PM
Jan 2015

If the next president is not a Dem it will be blamed on liberals and Progressives. That's just how it is.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
3. Good, if everyone shows up to vote. If they don't, then congratulations
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:46 PM
Jan 2015

to President Bush, the younger brother.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. Before Obama, we were told repeatedly how rare it is for Senators to become President.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:52 PM
Jan 2015

Never mind African American ones.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
18. I'm an FDR dem. FDR followed a republican pres, Hoover. He died and his VP became pres, Truman.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jan 2015

That much I do know.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
23. FDR was elected following a two-term Democrat.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:20 PM
Jan 2015

That it happened to be himself is irrelevant. Perhaps the question should have been "has a different Democrat been elected directly following a two-term Democrat?"

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
20. and two words: Harry Truman, elected after 3-term FDR. Long Democratic presidency.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:12 PM
Jan 2015

Democratic presidents from 1933 - 1953.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
29. He was completing FDR term, he could have been elected two times, as in LBJ
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:31 PM
Jan 2015

Completing JFK term, LBJ ran and was elected one term and decided not to run the second term.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
30. Actually, kwassa made a great point.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:31 PM
Jan 2015

I'm embarrassed to have overlooked that Truman actually followed a four-term Democrat. So that's, technically, three occurrences.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
8. Gore won, FDR won a third term (which counts too)
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 10:55 PM
Jan 2015

Anyone saying that is seriously slanting the story.


The important thing to watch is the shift in demographics. Odds are that a (D) will win in 2016. It is up to us to get the best (D) the nomination. That will really be the hard part.


RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
13. I just read on Huffpo that Ds in the senate got millions more votes than Rs 2014
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:01 PM
Jan 2015

overall.

We do have a solid base. I just can't bear the thought of Kasich being President. I know everyone here thinks it will be Bush or Romney, mainly due to name recognition at the moment, but I feel in my gut its going to end up being Kasich. And it makes my gut HURT.

He is the epitome of a Bad Bad Wolf in sheeps clothing. He'll have mass appeal.

Yes, the important thing is to get the right candidate. That's what it will take...

 

Boreal

(725 posts)
42. Kasich?!
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:39 AM
Jan 2015

No way. I haven't heard his name even mentioned. ooooo, I HATE that asshole.

While I have nothing with which to bet, I would bet that Jeb Bush has been promised the job (selected).

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
11. Buchanan followed Franklin Pierce, who was a one-termer
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:01 PM
Jan 2015

Polk was also a one-termer, but he was succeeded by Zachary Taylor, who died in office and was succeeded by Millard Fillmore (who was then succeeded by Pierce).

However, Harry Truman followed FDR, who had been elected 4 times.
Al Gore was the actual winner of the election of 2000, but was cheated out of his victory.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
16. Thanks Art. I wish I'd known all that at dinner!
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:03 PM
Jan 2015

Makes me wish I'd paid more attention in history classes.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
32. I've been interested in Presidential trivia since my mom gave me a sticker book of Presidents
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:35 PM
Jan 2015

That book ended with Lyndon Johnson

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
15. Truman
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:03 PM
Jan 2015

Though I suppose you could say that FDR wasn't strictly a "two-term" Democrat but a four-term one.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
31. He first became president in 1945, following President FDR's death.
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:35 PM
Jan 2015

He wasn't elected first time around, he became President only because he was VP when the president died. That was the point at dinner. A (different) Democrat being elected following a multiterm Democrat is rare. But maybe it doesn't even matter.

The past is the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
41. He still won the next election after FDR's last re-election.
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:35 AM
Jan 2015

And was expected to lose by pretty much everybody going into Election Day, 1948

There were Dems(including FDR's sons) who had tried to draft Eisenhower to replace him as nominee(at a time when nobody KNEW what Ike's politics actually were-and at a time when he may not have had ANY actual political views at all-Eisenhower had never expected to be anything but a career military man, and believed that career officers should never publicly express any political or even religious viewpoints. In fact, it's likely that the 1952 election was the first one in which Ike actually VOTED.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
17. demographics favor democrats more than they use to compared to recent decades
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:04 PM
Jan 2015

when it comes to presidential elections. but someone like jeb or christie depending on how they are as a candidate and if they distance themselves away from the crazies in their party enough and come off as being better than the rest of the party , they can have a chance.

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
19. Since the Roosevelt-Truman years it's been "8 and rotate" with only one exception
Sat Jan 3, 2015, 11:11 PM
Jan 2015

The "8 years and switch parties" has continued for a long time now--only the 1980 election broke that pattern.

I think the Democrats are a little over confident. I think Jeb Bush or Chris Christie could win nationally, but not by much.

Bagsgroove

(231 posts)
33. It happened in 2000 as well
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 12:07 AM
Jan 2015

A Democrat was elected president in 2000 following a 2-term Democrat. Poor Al Gore. How quickly we forget.

hollysmom

(5,946 posts)
35. I think the chances vary if Mitt Romney is running in opposition
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 02:43 AM
Jan 2015

I can see Anne now -
Yes, it is really really his turn now!!!
I needed that dancing Zoo to help my MS


So many ideas, my head hurts now

 

ChosenUnWisely

(588 posts)
38. With the stupidity of the American voter anything can happen
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:23 AM
Jan 2015

Any nation that elects not once but twice, 2 of the most destructive people ever to be POTUS, Rancid Ronnie and Bush the Lessor, and an electrocute that keeps voting for those that now openly campaign and operate on policies that will directly harm the very people that vote for them, is a nation where the majority is not very bright.

In the end we will get the Government we deserve.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
43. The demographics are in our favor
Sun Jan 4, 2015, 06:45 AM
Jan 2015

Odds are very good for us. The question is how much will the GOP's War on Voting impact things?

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