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http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-grim-new-reality-for-once-popular-tv-genre-2015-1American Idol judges (L-R) Keith Urban, Jennifer Lopez and Harry Connick Jr. at Fox's "American Idol XIV" Red Carpet Event on December 9, 2014 in Los Angeles
Los Angeles (AFP) - Falling ratings, canceled shows and lurid scandals: 2014 was a trying year for reality television in the United States, as American audiences wearied of producers chasing success by recycling the same old formats.
The question is, will 2015 be any better? Some experts say real life-based TV shows are facing a grim new reality.
For more than a decade, reality television shows bulldozed their way across the US ratings landscape unchecked, attracting bumper audiences year after year.
But the big-hitters of the genre such as "Survivor" and "American Idol" have shown serious signs of fatigue after years of dominance.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/afp-grim-new-reality-for-once-popular-tv-genre-2015-1#ixzz3O2cqnYET
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)drm604
(16,230 posts)clydefrand
(4,325 posts)I'm old, but I still wish we could get back to some really good, honest, no-vulgarity type
shows. With what is on now - and people wonder what is wrong with so many of the younger kids?
Too much violence/cussing/sex on now. Stop the violence/cussing and leave sex ed. to parents and the schools.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I can think of a handful that were part of my popular viewing in the deep past that could fit your description but I'm wondering which you mean.
I can image Family and All In the Family being contrasted in consideration of good honest vulgarity free shows, but I am not at all sure that the social significance of the shows would follow in the same order.
Shows like "Gunsmoke" and "The Rifleman" with clear right and wrong and fully disambiguated good guys and bad guys certainly promoted dominate narratives of American values, but they also promoted violence as a resolution to evil and harbored issues that in today's view would include 'blue privilege', 2nd amendment movements, and yeomanship that overlaps even 'sovereign citizenship'.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)that clydefrand could have liked, at least in the beginning: The Learning Channel. These days, they might as well re-brand themselves as "RTV" or "Reality" TV, because they show nothing of any educational value.
Per Wikipedia's page on them:
The channel was founded in 1972 by the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare and NASA as the Appalachian Community Service Network,(3)(4) and was an informative and instructional network focused on providing real education through the medium of television; it was distributed at no cost by NASA satellite.
The Learning Channel: "a place for learning minds"
ACSN was privatized in 1980, and its name was changed to "The Learning Channel" in November of that year; the name was subsequently shortened to "TLC." 5) (NASA immediately launched NASA TV as the ACSN's internal replacement). The channel mostly featured documentary content pertaining to nature, science, history, current events, medicine, technology, cooking, home improvement, and other information-based topics. These are often agreed to have been more focused, more technical, and of a more academic nature than the content that was being broadcast at the time on its rival, The Discovery Channel. The channel was geared toward an inquisitive and narrow audience during this time, and had modest ratings except for Captain's Log with Captain Mark Gray, a boating safety series which aired on TLC from 1987 to 1990 and achieved between a 4.5 to 6 share in the ratings. Captain's Log was also the highest compensated series in the history of TLC, with over 30 times the compensation of any other series on TLC at that time and was allowed to sign yearly rather than quarterly contracts.
Although it didn't show up until the channel started to change for the worse, one of my absolute favorite shows on TLS was called simply "The Operation." The premise was that the documentary crew followed patients needing some kind of medical operation and the doctors would talk the audience through the procedures. I don't know much about medicine, but it was one of the most fascinating shows I'd ever seen, before or since!
Of course, PBS was, and still is, a good substitute for what TLC used to be. And as far as vulgarity goes, I learned more "bad words" off of British comedy shows aired on PBS latenight and weekends than I learned in school
Erose999
(5,624 posts)music and literature.
Now it's hoarders, intervention, Dog the Bounty Hunter, and storage wars.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)Thankfully, TCM still means "Turner Classic Movies" and embraces that title, instead of rebranding it. Thank all that is good and right in the world for Robert Osborne!
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)northoftheborder
(7,569 posts)4Q2u2
(1,406 posts)The took away the real REality show and replaced it with IDIOT TV
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(TV_series)
kentauros
(29,414 posts)I remember watching that on PBS! And then they did a shorter show for the early version of The Discovery Channel, I think. Didn't think it was as good, because it's difficult to cover centuries in half an hour (unless your a Doctor!)
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)It is a western. Like Gunsmoke.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Warren Stupidity
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Erose999
(5,624 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)and that was because I was on a business trip with people who enjoyed the show.
Otherwise, I've actually never seen any of the shows listed here.
ellenrr
(3,864 posts)90% of tv "offerings" are reality shows.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)broadcast TV was more evenly divided and had no dominate genre. I don't have more recent figures at my fingertips, but there is less reality TV production now than in 2011/12...
no single genre represented a majority of broadcast television programming during the 2011-12
season. That is, drama (31 percent) and reality (30 percent) together accounted for 61
percent of broadcast programming, while the remaining 39 percent share was divided between other programming (comedy, news, talk etc).
http://www.bunchecenter.ucla.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/2014-Hollywood-Diversity-Report-2-12-14.pdf
Reality TV was never 90% of programming and it is trending down hard. Drama is flourishing, comedy still floundering....
spinbaby
(15,088 posts)If you channel surf, you'll find more home shopping shows than anything else.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)Are so incredibly ignorant of the teevee....when haven't series ran their coarse, lost viewers, and canceled....answer, they always have with damned few exceptions. ..they're shocked that after 15 years idol and survivor have lost it? From my perspective there is no shortage of reality teevee from Vanilla Ice and the Amish to the ridiculous housewives, survivor and idol are dinosaurs
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Tell me you're joking.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Now there is even a spinoff where the Amish guy travels around the country in a red mustang remodeling people's bathrooms.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)on his show?
pipoman
(16,038 posts)He pimps the Amish cribs...
csziggy
(34,131 posts)Rather than practical remodeling that most could afford, he's buying up McMansions that were let to get run down and restoring them in all their tacky McMansion glory.
Sample description from the link above:
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)TV producers are not brave and are often no more creative than your average Xerox machine but they have been able to crank out so-called "reality" TV and find some winners.
Reality TV is the product of smaller audiences and dwindling budgets for primetime TV. It was a way to make TV shows without paying union writers or union actors. Some of the shows claim to be "unscripted" but one of the things that killed this genre is all the fakery. "Mystery Diner" finally took it so far over the top that they were exposed as a total fraud. Gordon Ramsay's Master Chef shows are faked but most people either can't tell or don't mind because they want to believe that a 9 year-old kid can dream up, cook and perfectly plate sous-vide wild boar with a reduction of bordeaux and demi glace, wild mushroom risotto and handmade ravioli in 45 minutes.
The show that killed reality TV, Fox's "Utopia"" used escorts and models to get around the ban on union actors. The show was as fake as they come and was immediately called out when viewers recognized the actor playing "Red" from his marijuana show.
http://starcasm.net/archives/287039
Perhaps for the next show the producers will just break down and hire some union people again and make something watchable.
pipoman
(16,038 posts)Even with high budget series there is more failure than success.
JustAnotherGen
(31,783 posts)TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)I'll put on my dancing shoes.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)The first season of Survivor was good because it was fresh and felt genuine. After that, blech.
Amazing Race is somewhat tantalizing because of its many locations, but I've only watched it because I was waiting for The Good Wife to come on, and the network was running behind due to an NFL game.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)I'm sick and tired of reality TV. AFAIK, the producers selectively edit the footage, a la FOX "News", to twist the thoughts and words of the the participants, all for the sake of drama, ratings, and money.
Give me a good documentary any day.
Skittles
(153,122 posts)hoo boy was I correct
WhiteAndNerdy
(365 posts)Now if someone would just come up with something new. It seems like almost everything on prime time is either a reality show or yet another detective show. TNT's new "Dallas" was great because it wasn't just another stupid formulaic murder show, but it's not being renewed this time.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)PassingFair
(22,434 posts)"She's a COPCAWLER!!"
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)I would rather watch that than any of the endless SVU or CSI crap.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)even though Trump's a scumbag - they have raised $9 million for charity so
I choose to focus on that)
I think these shows are a study on human behavior and find that part
very interesting.
Amazing Race is the only show I know of that truly shows what life is
like in other countries. I don't even know why they call the Travel
Channel the Travel Channel - every time I turn it on it's always about
haunted houses.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)The Voice and sometimes some of the ones on Food Network if we're bored.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Seems like it may have a lot to do with laziness and greed on the part of producers and networks. I would so love to see some good fiction on TV again!
TexasProgresive
(12,157 posts)Including the rise of prime time game shows, judge shows and snooze magazine shows like 20-29 etc..
I watch a lot of old series maybe because I am old but maybe because I am nostalgic for some decent if not great writing and acting.
What I don't get about reality shows is that they are obviously scripted.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)They don't want to pay talented writers what they're worth, so they just adopted lower standards for scripting.
I agree about the older series' I dumped cable and get a better selection via Roku.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)the format. 'American Idol' is a talent show and talent shows have been part of television since 1948 with Ted Mack's Amateur Hour. I do not see it as 'Reality TV' as it is a show about a show, not a show about reality, the performances are intentional, the performances are the show. It is a talent contest show, which is a subset of the game show genre.
The 1991 Dutch series 'Number 28' was the first 'Reality TV' show, 'Survivor' and 'Big Brother' followed in the US.
Games shows, talent contests, news programming and talk shows are all unscripted but not 'reality TV'. Some such shows get lumped in with reality shows but they are not reality shows.
So count Idol as reality if you wish, many would outside the industry, but at the same time perhaps consider the health of the format without Idol counted as part of it and see how very weak the genre really is.
Fox lost huge money and programming control this season over the failed 'Utopia' which was 'classic reality tv' and a huge, same inducing failure for them.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)JHB
(37,157 posts)GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)Producers wanted to reduce costs by avoiding union writers and union actors so they write these shows themselves and use realtiy-TV-star-wannabes who work free or for stipend. "Utopia" used escorts and models to avoid union actors. Gordon Ramsay uses food stylists, coaches and handlers (paid for by the stage parents) to make it look like little kids can cook. They get the challenges weeks in advance:
http://www.realityravings.com/2011/10/19/junior-masterchef-contestants-are-helped-alot/
Very little reality in these shows but they were cheap to produce while they lasted.
shanti
(21,675 posts)they'll do a whole season and the the next season is just recaps of bits and pieces of the shows, no new filming. or the cast will sit around talking about the show.
give me a good documentary any day!
GreatGazoo
(3,937 posts)ProdigalJunkMail
(12,017 posts)the only one i can tolerate is the Gold Rush one... and even that one is stretching it...
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spanone
(135,795 posts)ErikJ
(6,335 posts)Pawn stars teaches a lot of history behind the objects and shows how to wheel and deal. The Alaskan wilderness/pioneeer shows how to survive off the grid which is endlessly fascinating.
LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)marmar
(77,056 posts)hatrack
(59,578 posts)Let me know!
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)nt
Coventina
(27,064 posts)I'll let the smilies do it for me!
Paladin
(28,243 posts)sinkingfeeling
(51,438 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)Networks are lazy and cheap.
They do not want to hire writers and real actors, so they just turn everything into a contest
baking
dancing
singing
"faux- surviving"
child raising
and more
and yet they (former independent, now eaten up by bigger entities) always seem flummoxed over the fact that THEY are not winning awards or accolades..
Just last week, the "weather" channel thought we needed Two Fat Guys In the Woods more than having some weather folks show us the massive flooding/rain-caused landslides that were happening right then..
And they "offer" us schlock like the Dynasty nut cases, and the guy who travels worldwide eating weird stuff , and pimping toddlers in evening wear so Momma can go to walmart more..and the unending march of idiotic sitcoms that fail a few weeks after they start
The few really special (formerly) networks have been ruined.
and WHY is 20-20 wasting our time investigating crimes that were solved decades ago?
and Good Ole NBC , who probably has enough old footage to cobble together "new" Dateline/ID until the next millennium..
I'll stick with HBO/Showtime
RoverSuswade
(641 posts)It's not the stupid plots (and I'm not sure "plot" is even an appropriate word), it is the spastic way the camera shots are shown only for a maximum of two seconds. If you watch the Weather Channel's reality offerings the picture keeps changing about 30-50 times a minute. It drives me nuts. Your eyes and brain never get to absorb an image before - whoooot - the picture changes.
Phentex
(16,330 posts)but wouldn't care if they all disappeared.
freebrew
(1,917 posts)was paying $70 a month for crap. No longer. Now, I get my crap for free.
Put up an antenna. Same, worthless crap. But at least it's free.
What will they decide to do with the time? Oh yeah, Paid Programming or another Jim Bakker hour?
Too many cop shows. Too much bad comedy.
Too much repetition in the 'news' shows w/o any real news.
I have to wonder, as well, who the education channels are educating.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)while the golden age of tv is occurring everywhere except on network tv.
mountain grammy
(26,600 posts)AndreaCG
(2,331 posts)Personally I never watched more than a few episodes of any reality show except last comic standing cause I do stand up comedy too, and Kathy Griffen's show cause she was not just funny but did some really nice things too. And her mom was a riot with her boxes of wine.
That's it unless you count survivor man.
hunter
(38,304 posts)Oh, wait, there's some other kind of "reality" television??? And it's worse than the television news and news shows???
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CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)I'm still there, every week.
I love Face Off & Wizard Wars, too.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Those are the only two I will ever watch. The rest I find unbelievably boring and after watching a few was mad at myself so wasting so much time.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)Every show there is some ingredient I've never heard of. And then you have to come up with a way to cook it, with specific other stuff, in just a few minutes. Wow. Must be interesting to be a judge for a cooking show. "Hmmm, I wonder what this is going to taste like?"
The ones where there is some talent involved are okay. You have to find what interests you. I like fashion & magic, but singing, not so much. I had a 24 hour bug one day & had a non-stop day of Shipping Wars. Now that is some mindless stuff!
I had a friend/hostage here (recovering from a broken pelvis and needing a place to stay for awhile) and was busy all day cleaning, he somehow lost the remote control and watched nearly a full day of Bridezilla. (The remote was hiding tangled in the bottom of his blankets and I did try to find it for him, but missed it.) Says he's never getting married ......
CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)Anyway, when I have seen it, it was fun to watch despite grossing me out entirely.
polly7
(20,582 posts)I haven't watched any for so many years, but it is a contest with a big prize. Some of those ingredients I've never even heard of, but it's amazing how fast they are at figuring out how to use them in their dish.
Autumn
(44,986 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)scatter the ashes in Category 5 hurricane!
olddots
(10,237 posts)That coincided with VCRs & cable being spread in the late 70s early 80s .
The more choices the cheaper things get just like life with over 7 billion humans
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,425 posts)the no talent Howie Mandel is not coming back?
closeupready
(29,503 posts)If someone would like to argue that Hee-Haw or the Lawrence Welk Show were better TV staples than Survivor or Amazing Race, please proceed.
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)I never owned a tv, this kind of stuff would have made me sell my tv on EBAY or simply tossed it in a giant bin near my apartment.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)City Lights
(25,171 posts)Can't happen soon enough, IMO.
randys1
(16,286 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)"Intervention Pawn Shop" where junkies think they're going to pawn stolen merchandise are surprised with an intervention by a crew of jolly fat pawnbrokers.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)moms are thrown into a storage unit and only one gets to leave....after being auctioned off.....
Erose999
(5,624 posts)Erose999
(5,624 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)might make the world a better place and stave off the Apocalypse.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Pass the carcasses along to one of the cooking shows, though, and make it a food reward on Survivor.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)tblue37
(65,227 posts)avebury
(10,951 posts)Reality TV is the 21st Century equivalent of people going to the Colusseum to watch the Gladiators in Ancient Rome. Provide the masses with cheap entertainment and maybe they won't notice the 1%ers, MIC and rabid Republicans/Teaparty rob us blind/sell us down the river.
daleanime
(17,796 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)"Chopped." For every "Housewives of..." is a "Master Chef: Juniors." For every "Hard-Core Pawn" is an "Antiques Roadshow" (oh, you didn't mean THAT Reality show?). Do you disparage "American Idol" while thinking Carrie Underwood is the cat's meow?
And so on. But of course, it is satisfying on some level to set one's self apart from the rabble, is it not?
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)hollysmom
(5,946 posts)I like to see the places they travel on Amazing race, not as much drama as fun things to see, and top chef has introduced me to some amazing chefs. I then go to the restaurants of the chef - traveling and eating - what else is there? Well, there is Clay but not too active. I do admit of watching them build tiny houses and believe I want to move into one, but I can find that stuff on-line.
Now I KNOW you have watched reality programs so don't pretend.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)is gored.
I make NO bones about watching all manner of RT. I am quite well-travelled, -cultured, and -read, frankly, and can't abide snobbery.
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)I do like tiny house nation but could find the same information on-line. If I am not watching things, I do not care about them. i.e. things like game of thrones, don't have HBO so what ever. Normal human response. I do like contests, what I don't like is fake reality shows following "real" lives. If they were following real lives they would be documentaries. I like contests as long as they do not have pre-chosen winners.
I like the Amazing race because even though bad luck happens, sometimes good luck happens, too. But there is wonderful challenges I wish I could do, too old now, but when the show began I went around asking people to be my partner so I could go on the show and could not find anyone willing to do it. ugh. stupid friends and family! That is why I joined TWOP. Even went to the TAR party one year to find Miss Allie surrounded by people offering her presents and giving the best seats to her fans. Kind of turned me off a bit. Ah the good old days, emphasis on the OLD. Wish my bones were stronger so I could still try the race, but it would kill me today. Mom was the only person who wanted to go with me, but at 84 with several strokes behind her, I thought - not a good idea.
napi21
(45,806 posts)Let's hope the networks come up with something worth time watching.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)I can't take seriously the opinion that "Chopped" is "stupid."
FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)To me, the closest thing to a reality show is "The Deadliest Catch". The boat crews are still out there chopping bait, dropping and retrieving crab pots, chipping ice, and putting their lives on the line in frigid, violent seas with or without cameras present.
Pretty much every other show happens because of the cameras.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)It only took too long. I stopped watching in 2000 when I couldn't stand listening to people talk about the first big series, which I don't even recall anymore.
Guess they'll be writers involved in negotiating television now.
northoftheborder
(7,569 posts)....I still really enjoy is American Pickers. Mike and Frank are interesting personalities who are very knowledgeable about vintage things, especially bikes, motor cycles, and cars. The people they meet are fascinating relics of the junk world!
Iggo
(47,537 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)Bar Rescue, Hotel Impossible, Restaurant Impossible. Because they take a failing bar, restaurant, hotel and get experts in to teach them how to run a business properly. Most of these people are rude to customers and don't have a clue about training their staff or cleaning or fixing simple drinks and dishes.
The experts are helping people (who are often stubborn and refuse to change although they are losing their asses) instead of making them compete artificially and being cruel to them, like the cooking competition shows.
Some of them do become successful in the hospitality business, but some of them have no idea how to be nice to customers and accommodate their needs. Some of them don't understand that if you are rude to customers, and don't answer questions, they will not come back and you will go broke.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)And then they get into shoving matches with him!!
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I've never been there, but I drove by it last night and it seemed to have quite a few cars in the parking lot.
on point
(2,506 posts)Cable uses this low cost to produce crap to fill channels. When no one orders it by choice, it will die.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)doc03
(35,300 posts)American Idol, Surviver it can't happen soon enough.
JI7
(89,241 posts)People being in and learning things about it.
But they have been putting in a bunch of fake drama which I can't stand. Especially with chumlee.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Maybe I should check it out.
JI7
(89,241 posts)redwitch
(14,941 posts)Sadly.
jmondine
(1,649 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)derby378
(30,252 posts)Mike Nelson
(9,944 posts)Worst. Genre. Ever.
meaculpa2011
(918 posts)since the birth of TV.
Anybody remember Candid Camera?
hollysmom
(5,946 posts)People telling their pitiful stories hoping for a washing machine bu usually just getting as weeks worth of new underwear if anything at all.
Warpy
(111,174 posts)so when the reality shows came in, I fled. I started to rent lots of DVDs and watch a lot more PBS, interesting or not.
I knew they were scripted bullshit with non trained actors that were cheaper to produce than shows with actors who knew what they were doing on sets that needed furnishing.
I lasted 15 minutes, 5 minutes for the one in the apartment full of whining yuppies and 10 for the one with the decent scenery but too many closeups of whining body builder yuppies who didn't have any bug bites or scrapes and it wasn't the first show where they'd supposedly been dumped.
I can't believe that garbage has lasted this long and has generated so many pseudo celebrities. I am not surprised how many of them are landing in the joint. They were always liars.
When the last one goes off the air, I might just have to open the Dead Cheney split of champagne, then go buy another one for the real toast.
Skittles
(153,122 posts)F*** YOU ALL!!!
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)CrawlingChaos
(1,893 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... is how ridiculous the very idea that there is ANY reality involved. I mean most of these shows are more scripted than your average sitcom.
And "reality"? Really. Take a show like undercover boss. How undercover is anything when there is clearly a camera crew present in every scene. Think the employees might figure out what is going on?
I used to enjoy watching Gordon Ramsey pitch a fit over a soggy cheeseburger, but all of his shows have descended into drama and theatrics so fake and so obviously contrived as to make a con man blush.
This crap couldn't die soon enough.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)Ambien without the side effects.
CanSocDem
(3,286 posts)...there are still a lot of real life working experiences that have yet to be covered. I've seen fishermen, miners, car builders, truck drivers, ballroom dancers, cops, bar owners, pet rescuers, cooks and dumpster-divers to name a few.
Aside from the occasional idiot who defies logic by hanging on to their job, their televised lives have been immensely informative. As I have always suspected, being on television makes life better. You can see it in the eyes of H-booboos mom. Or in the steely bravado of the 60yr old ice-road trucker barreling down a trail with his hat on back wards and his finger on the CB mike.
Having a clip on YouTube is more valuable than a high school diploma. Just sayin'...
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Beacool
(30,247 posts)I absolutely despise reality shows and don't watch any of them. Most of them cater to the lowest common denominator and have created fake "stars" who are no more than talentless, greedy and mediocre people.
Duck Dynasty, The Bachelor, The Housewives of...., etc.
Cringe worthy garbage.