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(16,799 posts)i am an old fuck yet my kids are supposed to know bands that i grew up with.
damn i mean damn
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)I had at least heard of the big music stars of the 40s, 50s, and 60s, even though before I was born.
I also knew of history that occurred WELL before I was born, including the major politicians, scientists, and leaders world wide.
It seems we now give future generations a total pass to be ignorant of all that preceded them.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)How about Count Basie, Benny Goodman, Glen Miller or Artie Shaw?
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)rather fond of duke ellington actually
but it was my dads music and my music was different.
i worship Kate Bush but i am not surprised or upset that my kids do not and i have not
given up hope that someday she will tour america......well really not a lot of hope....
music when i was growing up was part of rebellion
i smile because i thing rap and hip hop are awful--they are supposed to sound awful to me
I AM OLD
I am happy that this year the super bowl will have someone who does not need a walker to get across the fricken stage.
randys1
(16,286 posts)SomethingFishy
(4,876 posts)Forget about Beatlemania, and all the hits and all the record sales. The Beatles along with George Martin and engineer Geoff Emerick changed the face of recorded music. The things they were doing in the studio, hell, inventing are still standard practices today.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Damn good show too.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)I keed. I keed.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)that play our local festivals. Free or nearly free. I can't see spending $60+ for a faded memory of a once great performer.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Two new album releases over the past three years...
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Some people listened to them, while other didn't-- much as with all music...
Or is your premise not that he hasn't done much, but merely hasn't been as popular as he once was (which seem to be two very distinct statements)?
Initech
(100,063 posts)It is definitely McCartney's most Beatles-esque album he's done in like 30 years. Definitely worth a listen or two.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Oh sure, some of y'all will know, but for the most part, the majority of the vocal members of DU are products of the Top-40/100 commercial rock radio generations, no matter what the decade of their teen youth
trumad
(41,692 posts)Do they have a joke thingy.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts)Please tell me that was a joke.
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Brigid
(17,621 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)From the McCartney Hearings in the 50s?
trumad
(41,692 posts)Oh never mind.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)is that no one has yet acknowledged that they've heard of Brian Eno or that they understand why his influence on modern music is so important.
REP
(21,691 posts)I had an unusual upbringing. Due to my mother's musical snobbery, I wasn't allowed to listen to popular music; only classical and opera. When I did break out of my aural constraints, it was with David Bowie. From then on, a bit of mother's musical snobbery remained with me; I've never cared much for mainstream or Top 40 (with some exceptions; the first album I bought was Queen's A Night at the Opera).
TLDR: yes, I know who he is.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Only that most have not heard of him, and yet have had much of their music influenced by him since the 70s.
I don't recall the very first thing I heard on public radio (KPFT) but one of the first was Philip Glass' opera "Einstein On The Beach." Not even the commercial classical music station in town was that brave!
Now, I can also thank the Internet for giving me online stations and collections that continue to open my ears, such as somafm.com, the Internet Archive, weirdomusic.com, and All Music All Blogs
Even so, younger audiences won't listen to any of this unless a favored peer "approves" of these sources...
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Perhaps part of the issue is the extent anyone is curious about music and explores widely or if they really just passively absorb the commercial radio pabulum.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)He's also known for one of the most ubiquitous pieces of sound ever: the Windows startup riff.
What's the saddest about this whole thing, though, is that I've known far too many people that were 100% unconcerned to just "absorb the commercial radio pabulum." I've tried to get some friends that run a café to explore music choices beyond the Sirus/XM station "The Spectrum" (mostly a commercial classic rock station without the commercial interrupts; all the pabulum of that genre and preformatted method of presentation is still intact.) But they've told me time and again that the majority of their customers actually like the station!
Still, you are in the minority of knowing who Brian Eno is, especially knowing his music. This reminds me that I need to rip my copy of "Before and After Science" to my media player
dilby
(2,273 posts)I actually was listening to Hear Comes the Warm Jets this morning on my way to work and the album is older than I am. But Eno and Fripp were amazing on that album.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)However, spend a little time here in The Lounge, and you'll find a strong majority are stuck in the 1960s and early 70s and still have never heard of Brian Eno.
As I stated, though most DUers are not aware of either his music or influence on the rest of the music industry. But, that's typical of most Americans. Commercial radio rules. You have to be not only adventurous to go looking for public radio, but brave enough to sit through stuff you may not initially like in order to hear the rest of the spectrum that makes you wonder how you could have ever been seduced by corporate music at all
dilby
(2,273 posts)He pretty much set the stage for the 80's, he influenced both Glam Rock and New Wave, plus all the producing he did.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)especially in the 80s and 90s. Same for Trevor Horn during the same period. Remember him?
dilby
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JustAnotherGen
(31,811 posts)I knew CCR, Muddy Waters, Bessie, Dylan, Baez, all of Motown and heck of a lot of country music prior to 1980 when I was a teenager. But I grew up in a home that was music centric - where the stereo (8 track at one point) was always on and we got our own hi fi systems in grade school!
Lars39
(26,109 posts)And this is why I've got playlists going that younger family members can access. I have to tone it down so as to not offend the parents, but at least I'm putting the artists out there for the kids to explore on their own.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)the word 'gullible' isn't in the dictionary.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)The theme song they did for Live and Let Die (still the best theme song in my opinion).
An old joke from when I was in college was, "Paul McCartney was with a band before the Wings". The next generation would say, "Paul McCartney sang lead for two bands before performing with Michael Jackson".
I later learned about the Beatles, but shudder, my first deep exposure to their music was the Sgt. Pepper's movie. My older brother was not amused.
They are not one of my favorites, but I do enjoy listening to them occasionally. My tastes gravitate more to The Who.
Phentex
(16,334 posts)and that was 1980!
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)Also, content is created and distributed at what seems like exponentially greater quantity than the 5 previous decades. Some people know who Paul McCartney is and some don't. Just like every other musician, author, painter, dancer, etc. There is too much culture to be completely literate.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)While kids today get their music by means other than broadcast radio, what they listen do is still peer-influenced. I may have veered from the mainstream and accepted norms in my teen years, yet I still didn't learn about public radio except through peers (friends.)
I can't thank them enough for that influence, though. I wouldn't have the broad sense of music tastes I have today without them
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)extant. By working with him, Kanye introduced McCartney to a lot of people who, for whatever reason, hadn't known of him.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)And the kid's indignity at having to learn of an older musician might wane as he listens to other McCartney music, or the Beatles, or wherever it takes him. The kid may even pay attention and have some curiosity when their favorite musician (Kanye) speaks of their own musical influences.
It's all connected
OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)Watched the other guy on ed Sullivan but I've never heard of this Kanye guy.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)I know that dude, man. I've played with that dude.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)I probably would know next to nothing about him.
So it goes.
LeftinOH
(5,354 posts)11 Bravo
(23,926 posts)it's hard to keep up these days!
Enrique
(27,461 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)But he's a musician.
He says his peers are listening to a lot of thrash/death metal (which I've always liked and he hates) he doesn't like much pop, and only some Rap.
He listening to a lot of '90's music right now. Searching for his 'sound' --I don't argue.
When he comes over we have 'who can find the worst song contests'-- he even wins once once a while.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)and you may win
http://www.aprilwinchell.com/audio/
The_Commonist
(2,518 posts)...although Scottie Pippin comes in a close second:
bobGandolf
(871 posts)that I would one day see this!
kydo
(2,679 posts)my bad.
I'm not sure which is funnier sometimes. I like to listen to those re-airings of Casey Kasum's American Top 40. And sometimes he'll say some thing like wow looks like we have a new great singer/group should be around a long time. And its like the Knack or some other one hit wonder.
In other words sometimes the opinions of peeps before something became a big success or years, decades even, after their time are both equally funny.
Music tends to come full circle all the time. I remember when all of a sudden classical music was big again thanks to "A Fifth of Beethoven." Everyone was like wow awesome dance tune, this Beethoven guy rights more disco tunes. He is good might have a career in music.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)thanks to the experimental-rock band, Negativland's parody of U2
Brigid
(17,621 posts)Initech
(100,063 posts)Seriously. This is truly an epic fail on multiple levels.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)And for the ones who aren't...who the fuck cares? There's no silly conspiracy among "kids these days" to insult The Beatles, 99% of all age groups know who Paul McCartney is, and The Beatles still sell large amounts of music (and if you've been to a McCartney concert recently, concert tickets as well!) to young people.
Maybe people should worry more about remembering where they left their dentures than which kids on Twitter are joking or not.
trumad
(41,692 posts)As you can see----99.9 percent are getting a chuckle out of this----except. .1 percent.
You're such a radical.
DemocraticWing
(1,290 posts)It has to do with the dozens of people like my parents who are SO OFFENDED by the GALL of these ANKLEBITERS!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)
I'm sure that later in their years, those little shits won't be chanting, "Kanye forever!"