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malaise

(268,721 posts)
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 07:23 PM Jan 2015

BREAKING: Active shooter reported at William Beaumont Army Medical Center, El Paso Texas

http://kfor.com/2015/01/06/active-shooter-reported-at-va-hospital-in-texas/
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There is an active shooter at the El Paso VA Health Care System in El Paso, Texas, a spokesman said Tuesday.

The area is on lockdown, said Clarence Davis, spokesman for the William Beaumont Army Medical Center, which is adjacent to the VA facility.

According to KTSM, no one is in custody at this time.
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BREAKING: Active shooter reported at William Beaumont Army Medical Center, El Paso Texas (Original Post) malaise Jan 2015 OP
Another person exercising their 2nd amendment rights? Cali_Democrat Jan 2015 #1
Well it sure seems our forefathers knew exactly what these rights would be used for! Agschmid Jan 2015 #6
Let me break all the rules of decorum and make a wild ass guess right now, randys1 Jan 2015 #2
And just got his PTSD claim denied... MindPilot Jan 2015 #5
That makes sense randys1 Jan 2015 #7
Probably very close to the script malaise Jan 2015 #8
Looks like he shot the doctor before committing malaise Jan 2015 #12
No surprise...Remember, Cheney, Bush, and the rest all CHICKENSHIT CHICKENHAWKS randys1 Jan 2015 #13
Until young men and women learn malaise Jan 2015 #16
That hospital was apparently singled out as the one with the longest wait times in the entire VA Recursion Jan 2015 #22
Another day, another wacko armed to the teeth, shooting innocents. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author GGJohn Jan 2015 #10
But it's Texas! Surely there are so many "good guys with guns" around the police aren't even villager Jan 2015 #4
This doesn't happening Idaho underpants Jan 2015 #9
It is federal property. Texas gun laws are irrelevant. Nt hack89 Jan 2015 #15
2 wounded in shooting at VA hospital pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #11
Shooter kills self, shoots doctor at VA hospital in El Paso, Texas pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #14
Thanks malaise Jan 2015 #17
UPDATE: News media reporting that the doctor has died pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #18
Guess its time to water the tree of liberty again workinclasszero Jan 2015 #19
My friend's brother was an Army doctor, murdered by a fellow soldier in Iraq. Octafish Jan 2015 #20
I have lost so many ... malokvale77 Jan 2015 #21
UPDATE: FBI says shooter at Texas VA clinic was ex-employee pinboy3niner Jan 2015 #23

randys1

(16,286 posts)
2. Let me break all the rules of decorum and make a wild ass guess right now,
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 07:26 PM
Jan 2015

current or former soldier who was sent to Afghanistan and Iraq so many god damn times by the war criminal fucks George W Bush and Dick Cheney that it made him lose it.

Or her...but probably him.

They kill themselves at a rate of 22 per day, thanks to Bush and Cheney, we know that for a fact.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
5. And just got his PTSD claim denied...
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 07:33 PM
Jan 2015

Just ordinary day-to-day dealings with the VA is enough to push a perfectly stable completely well-adjusted person past the brink.

They reap what they sow.

randys1

(16,286 posts)
13. No surprise...Remember, Cheney, Bush, and the rest all CHICKENSHIT CHICKENHAWKS
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 08:40 PM
Jan 2015

who

R E F U S E D

to serve when it was their turn

malaise

(268,721 posts)
16. Until young men and women learn
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 08:46 PM
Jan 2015

that these are not their wars, this will continue. Let the sons and daughters of the 1% go and fight for their Trust Funds. They do not give a flying fuck about the children of the poor and middle class.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. That hospital was apparently singled out as the one with the longest wait times in the entire VA
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:23 AM
Jan 2015

2 months for a mental health eval, 4 for a physical.

Response to MoonRiver (Reply #3)

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
4. But it's Texas! Surely there are so many "good guys with guns" around the police aren't even
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 07:32 PM
Jan 2015

...necessary!

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
11. 2 wounded in shooting at VA hospital
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 08:19 PM
Jan 2015
Posted 6:13 PM, January 6, 2015, by CNN Wire

Two people were wounded Tuesday at the El Paso VA Health Care System in El Paso, Texas, where an active shooter was reported, multiple officials told CNN, citing preliminary information.

The shooter suffered a self-inflicted wound.

The extent of the injuries of all three was not immediately clear.

http://wgntv.com/2015/01/06/2-wounded-in-shooting-at-va-hospital/

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
14. Shooter kills self, shoots doctor at VA hospital in El Paso, Texas
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 08:43 PM
Jan 2015

(Not necessarily in that order.)

BY Jason Silverstein /
Tuesday, January 6, 2015, 6:23 PM

A shooter at the El Paso VA Health Care System shot and killed himself and also shot a doctor Tuesday night.

The shooting was reported around 4 p.m. and the Fort Bliss medical center went into lockdown.

...


Several initial reports incorrectly said the shooting occurred at the William Beaumont Army Medical Center in El Paso, but that center was shut down as part of a full lockdown of the area around where the shooting happened.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/active-shooter-reported-el-paso-army-medical-center-article-1.2068028

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
18. UPDATE: News media reporting that the doctor has died
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 10:42 PM
Jan 2015
UPDATE: 6:37 p.m.

EL PASO, Texas (MyNews4.com & KRNV) -- CNN is reporting that the doctor shot at the El Paso VA Hospital has died.

http://www.mynews4.com/news/local/story/Two-dead-in-shooting-at-VA-Hospital-in-El-Paso/8qWS5eToFk-DC85Ful4S9w.cspx
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. Guess its time to water the tree of liberty again
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 10:49 PM
Jan 2015

because...gunz = massive profits!

Lord help the innocents in the crossfire.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
20. My friend's brother was an Army doctor, murdered by a fellow soldier in Iraq.
Tue Jan 6, 2015, 10:58 PM
Jan 2015
Army Maj. Matthew P. Houseal

While I didn't know Maj. Houseal, I went to high school with one of his younger siblings.

Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and all their enablers and liars should be in prison, along with these killers. The Bush cabal lied America into an illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrous war.

My friend's family will never be the same -- nor will those who know them.

And our world also will be the poorer for Bush Jr.'s war for decades to come.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
21. I have lost so many ...
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:18 AM
Jan 2015

family members and friends in this nations idiot wars. I just want to scream.

My grandson is in the Navy (Blue Tails) and I fear everyday for him. I know he is not supposed to be in a dangerous job, but that does not alleviate my concern.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
23. UPDATE: FBI says shooter at Texas VA clinic was ex-employee
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 06:23 PM
Jan 2015
By RUSSELL CONTRERAS and SETH ROBBINS
Jan. 7, 2015 9:54 PM EST

EL PASO, Texas (AP) — An Army veteran who fatally shot a psychologist at a West Texas veterans' hospital before killing himself was a former clerk at the clinic and had threatened the doctor in 2013, the FBI said Wednesday.

The FBI identified the gunman in Tuesday's shooting as Jerry Serrato, a 48-year-old who was medically discharged from the Army in 2009 after serving in Iraq two years earlier. Douglas Lindquist, who heads the FBI's El Paso office, said Serrato used a .380-caliber handgun to shoot Dr. Timothy Fjordbak, 63, and himself at the El Paso Veterans Affairs Health Care System at Fort Bliss.

Fjordbak was a psychologist who left private practice after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks because he wanted to work with military veterans, officials said. Serrato had served in the Ohio Army National Guard from 1985 to 1993, then enlisted in the Army in July 2006, military records show. He served in Iraq for five months in 2007.

Officials did not provide a motive for the shooting. However, Fjordbak had reported Serrato made an unspecified verbal threat against him at an El Paso supermarket in 2013. Serrato had some sort of perceived or real grievance against Fjordbak and had said something to the effect of, "I know what you did and I will take care of it," Lindquist said.

"It was something in public at a grocery store where Mr. Serrato approached Dr. Fjordbak, who did not recognize him, and he made a verbal threat, and that was the extent of the report. As far as we can tell, that was the only connection that they had," Lindquist said.

Both men worked at the VA at the same time in 2013, but authorities do not believe they had a working relationship, Lindquist said. There also was no immediate indication the gunman was a patient, the FBI said.

...


http://bigstory.ap.org/article/8b877d2719284f73a5fefb3ecec35df8/fbi-gunman-fatally-shot-doctor-texas-veterans-clinic
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