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Mosby

(16,297 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 01:50 PM Jan 2015

Radical Islam, Nihilist Rage

LONDON — FACED with a horror like the slaughter of 148 schoolchildren and school staff members by the Taliban in Pakistan, it is tempting to describe the act as “inhuman” or “medieval.” What made the massacre particularly chilling, though, is that it was neither. The killings were all too human and of our time.

The Peshawar massacre may have been particularly abhorrent, but the Taliban have attacked at least 1,000 schools over the past five years. They have butchered hundreds through suicide bombings of churches and mosques. And beyond Pakistan lies the brutality of groups like the Islamic State, Boko Haram and the Shabab.

What seems to bind these groups together is that they claim to act in the name of Islam. Why, many ask, do so many of today’s most vicious conflicts appear to involve Islamists? And why do Islamist groups seem so much more vicious, sadistic, even evil?

Muslims are not the only religious group involved in perpetrating horrors. From Christian militias in the Central African Republic reportedly eating their foes to Buddhist monks organizing anti-Muslim pogroms in Myanmar, there is cruelty aplenty in the world. Nor are religious believers alone in committing grotesque acts. Yet, critics argue, there appears to be something particularly potent about Islam in fomenting violence, terror and persecution.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/04/opinion/sunday/kenan-malik-the-nihilist-rage-of-radical-islam.html?_r=0

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yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
2. It is not Islam.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:08 PM
Jan 2015

It is the history of western imperialism.

Like Lady Macbeth discovered, the blood does not wash away.

In the past, racists often viewed modernity as the property of the West and regarded the non-Western world as incapable of modernizing. Today, it is radicals who often regard modernity as a Western product, and reject both it and the West as tainted goods.

The consequence has been the transformation of anti-Western sentiment from a political challenge to imperialist policy to an inchoate rage against modernity.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. More an explanation.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 05:59 PM
Jan 2015

We are told "they hate the way we live." What is it they hate? Millions of Moslems live around the world, live in the modern world, and wouldn't dream of these horrific and barbarous acts.

Jihadism provides Islamist ideology with a military form and seemingly creates a global social movement, at a time when radical alternatives have collapsed. What jihadism does not possess is the moral and philosophical framework that guided anti-imperialist movements. Shorn of that framework, and reduced to raging at the world, jihadists have turned terror into an end in itself.


In this context, religion - Islam - no longer applies. No "moral and philosophical framework." These terrorist acts are an expression of existential nihilism.

What is the goal? There is no goal.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
9. not everything is about the west, things are happening withing pakistan, between pakistan and india
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 06:01 PM
Jan 2015

between shia and sunni in the middle east.

people do exist and things do happen without the west being the big reason for everything.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
3. Muslims are the primary victims of these extremists
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jan 2015

It boggles the mind to lay the actions of these people at the feet of their own victims.
 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
4. "yet, critic argue..."
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:21 PM
Jan 2015

Well, because the lurid reality of Protestant soldiers raping, killing, and eating entire communities of Twa pygmies doesn't sell really well in the west, where Christians are by default "the good guys." Similarly, Myanmar's push to purge Muslims doesn't sell well, thanks to two factors; this weird american belief that Buddhism is a specially-enlightened religion, and of course, the persistent bugbear that "Muslims deserve it."

In fact, this bugbear is the source of this "argument" from "critics." becuase the western world has spent the better part of the 20th century completely fucking over Muslims, and "they deserve it!" is the mantra of justification for doing so.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
6. I always find it amazing that those who believe in an Omnipotent deity think it needs protection.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:59 PM
Jan 2015

The must think their God(s) are wimps.

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