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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:02 PM Jan 2015

Paris Killings Seen Fueling Europe’s Anti-Islam Movements

By Patrick Donahue Jan 7, 2015 12:34 PM ET

The killing of at least 12 people at a French magazine that received threats because of its depiction of Islam stands to exacerbate already burgeoning anti-Muslim sentiment in Europe.

The shooting by masked gunmen at the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo in eastern Paris adds to a tense environment, with an anti-immigrant party dominating in France, mosque burnings in Sweden and thousands marching in Germany decrying the “Islamization” of the west.

“Any incident like the one in Paris will only be fuel to the fire,” Joerg Forbrig, the senior program director at the German Marshall Fund of the U.S., said by phone from Berlin. “It will be welcomed as a ‘told-you-so’ episode by radical movements saying Islam is a threat to our countries.”

The attackers -- at least one of whom shouted “Allahu Akbar,” or “God is great” in Arabic -- are at large and no motive has been confirmed. Charlie Hebdo’s offices were firebombed in 2011 when it featured the Prophet Mohammed as a “guest editor.” The magazine sparked worldwide outrage among Muslims in 2012 after publishing cartoons mocking the prophet.

The leader of the anti-Islam Freedom Party in the Netherlands, Geert Wilders, took aim at the Dutch and European political establishments and Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte.

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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2015-01-07/paris-killings-seen-fueling-europe-s-anti-islam-sentiment.html

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tblue

(16,350 posts)
3. That's not the answer.
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:11 PM
Jan 2015

The circle of hate has got to stop. So far we know there were 2 perpetrators. They are the ones who should pay for this crime, not the Muslim community.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
4. There was another Dutchman a politician who criticized the failure of Muslims
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:16 PM
Jan 2015

To integrate into Dutch society.

HE WAS MURDERED.

Possible that those that are willing to sacrifice their freedoms to accommodate fundamentalists have been cowed by events.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
6. Terror: What War Needs
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:38 PM
Jan 2015

“Naturally the common people don’t want war. But after all, it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and for exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.”

Reichsmarschall Hermann Göring in conversation with prison psychologist and U.S. Army Captain Gustave M. Gilbert.

SOURCE: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview/id/235519.html

Göring would commit suicide by cyanide tablet a short time later to avoid the noose.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
7. How does one say "Bring It On" and "Smoke 'em out!" in French, German, Dutch, etc?
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 02:49 PM
Jan 2015

Maybe Bush could give them some pointers on how to handle the situation and how to start new wars to lose.

Hutzpa

(11,461 posts)
8. Unfortunately the innocents will suffer because of the actions
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:01 PM
Jan 2015

of some mindless idiots. This helps no one, it instead fuels the fire between all sides.

These perpetrators are doing the dirty work for some shadow players.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
9. DU doesn't talk much about the Neo-Nazie in European governments
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:08 PM
Jan 2015

In Germany, some racist murderers targeted Turks and the police just blamed the victims claiming they were part of a Turkish mafia despite zero evidence any were while not investigating AND TRASHING EVIDENCE leading to the rightwing neo-nazis.

Even now, right-wingers there make apologies for the police collaboration.

And the trial was moved to Munich… the German version of a deep Red State.

AND they tried to prevent media agencies access:


The case has attracted widespread attention abroad. Its opening was delayed by nearly three weeks after a Turkish newspaper filed a petition with Germany’s highest court to be allowed in the courtroom after it failed to secure one of the 50 seats reserved for reporters. The high court ordered the Munich judges to grant access to news media outlets from Turkey and Greece, leading to a new accreditation process.

That delay was only the latest in a case that has been plagued by mistakes that have damaged the reputation of Germany’s security apparatus. The head of the domestic intelligence agency resigned in July because an official in his office had shredded documents that may have contained evidence from paid informants about members of the group.

State domestic intelligence chiefs in Thuringia, Saxony and Saxony-Anhalt also stepped down as a result of the case, and critics and relatives of the victims charge that the government indirectly supported the neo-Nazis through payments to confidential informants associated with the far right, several of whom had connections to the group over the years.


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/07/world/europe/trial-of-neo-nazi-beate-zschape-in-germany.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/06/us-germany-neonazi-idUSBRE9440ER20130506


MisterP

(23,730 posts)
10. when you have two self-fulfilling prophecies pointed at each other it can go downhill
Wed Jan 7, 2015, 03:09 PM
Jan 2015

very quickly

Fortuyn and Wilders are *not* friends of liberal democracy, and ISIS is *not* the only representative of Islam, and until we come to grips with both these two groups are going to feed into each other and the rest of us will still be floundering about wondering why

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