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Atman

(31,464 posts)
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:00 AM Jan 2015

My wife asked me about "chemtrails" today.

Several people on FB (of course) have posted about them recently. She'd never heard of the conspiracy theory...it's just jet contrails, right? We've seen those our entire lives, why is it suddenly a big deal. I had a pretty simply answer:

The internet. When planes used to fly overhead before, no one went running to Facebook to post some whack-a-doodle theory about mind control. We just looked at the planes.

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My wife asked me about "chemtrails" today. (Original Post) Atman Jan 2015 OP
Obviously, the chemtrails don't spray out mind control drugs or I wouldn't be able... BlueJazz Jan 2015 #1
Oh, snap! Atman Jan 2015 #6
Lotta nutjobs think it's 'the gubmint spraying us with chemicals'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #2
Shhh! you're spilling the beans! brooklynite Jan 2015 #8
I think the mind-control stuff is coming through the Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #10
Yep. That and air traffic has increased dramatically over the past few decades. unrepentant progress Jan 2015 #3
I remember watching the sunrise over Lake Tahoe one morning. Atman Jan 2015 #9
That's what they want you to think! :D unrepentant progress Jan 2015 #17
i have a friend who swears the government is controlling the weather with these thingys spanone Jan 2015 #4
In a way they are Renew Deal Jan 2015 #16
of course it's just jet contrails... KG Jan 2015 #5
Specifically mentioned in DU's Terms of Service... Phentex Jan 2015 #7
I'm not actually discussing it. Atman Jan 2015 #12
I got an email just yesterday from my neighbor madokie Jan 2015 #11
Easy enough to spot an Alex Jones listener FBaggins Jan 2015 #23
Are Militant Atheists Using Chemtrails to Poison the Angels in Heaven? Here is some research you Douglas Carpenter Jan 2015 #13
Was that from The Onion? Atman Jan 2015 #14
Not the Onion, but still satire... Archae Jan 2015 #22
The big puffy white ones are called "chem blobs" Renew Deal Jan 2015 #15
Its not the internet. former9thward Jan 2015 #18
My mom called the cops on me because she thought my iPhone was a tazer or something. Atman Jan 2015 #19
Increased levels of Barium and Aluminum in the atmosphere, criss cross patterns in the sky, and cbdo2007 Jan 2015 #20
IMO Mr Dixon Jan 2015 #21
 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
1. Obviously, the chemtrails don't spray out mind control drugs or I wouldn't be able...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:05 AM
Jan 2015

...to tell you about them.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
6. Oh, snap!
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:13 AM
Jan 2015

Kind of nails it, doesn't it? If they're controlling us with chemtrails, how come we're able to post about chemtrails on the interweb tubes?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
2. Lotta nutjobs think it's 'the gubmint spraying us with chemicals'.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jan 2015

Airplanes burn fuel, so yeah, you're no doubt getting some chemicals in the exhaust going into the air. But you're getting a lot more of same from the cars and trucks around you daily. And you can go look up exactly which compounds are the end results of combustion of various fuels if you (not you personally, the generic you) feel the need.

brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
8. Shhh! you're spilling the beans!
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jan 2015

The chemicals are actually in the AUTO fuel, and the Government is in cahoots with the auto industry to have them emitted from your car which is a lot closer to people. Just think of all that "smoke" you see coming from your exhaust pipe in cold weather. The airline contrails are just a diversion to keep people from looking to closely at their cars.

Makes perfect sense when you think about it, doesn't it?

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
10. I think the mind-control stuff is coming through the
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jan 2015

TV, internet, and radio. Oh and those dead tree artifacts. 'Newspapers'.

3. Yep. That and air traffic has increased dramatically over the past few decades.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:07 AM
Jan 2015

Most people have no idea how many planes are in the sky at any given time, and when coupled with ignorance about air traffic procedures (But I'm miles away from the airport!), they see more contrails than they think there should be. Worse, they conflate air traffic patterns which often result in grids of contrails with some kind of evidence of intentionality.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
9. I remember watching the sunrise over Lake Tahoe one morning.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:17 AM
Jan 2015

We got up extra-early and went to the shore and watch the sunrise. It was absolutely beautiful. Then, right on cue, the planes started flying over from San Francisco. Crisp white lines cutting across the bright orange/blue sky. It was really rather stunning. But it made ya think...holey crap...there are a LOT of planes in the sky at 5:30 in the morning. Probably all spraying mind-control chemicals.

Phentex

(16,334 posts)
7. Specifically mentioned in DU's Terms of Service...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:15 AM
Jan 2015

but as long as you aren't really discussing this issue, it will probably be allowed to stay.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
12. I'm not actually discussing it.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:22 AM
Jan 2015

I'm just referencing a question my wife asked me. I found it kind of funny that she had never heard of this phenomenon. She's a very intelligent woman...how did this conspiracy theory escape her notice after all these years?

No, I am NOT discussing chemtrails. I'm discussing a discussion about chemtrails. Safe?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. I got an email just yesterday from my neighbor
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:20 AM
Jan 2015

about HAARP,

I sheite you not

He claims he doesn't listen to alec jones but I think he does from some of the other shit he comes up with. LOL

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
23. Easy enough to spot an Alex Jones listener
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:36 AM
Jan 2015

Just ask your neighbor what he thinks about Fukushima. If he starts talking about Busby/Caldicott/Gundersen/Mangao... it's pretty clear.

Amazing the nonsense that some people will fall for, eh?

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
13. Are Militant Atheists Using Chemtrails to Poison the Angels in Heaven? Here is some research you
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:24 AM
Jan 2015
show her. - One of the most informative article about the subject:

by Stephenson Billings



Chemtrails are the aerial spraying trails left by large aircraft, both commercial and federal, that are not associated with farming. Millions of images of these sky dispersals can be found on the internet. You will see thick plumes of dense whiteness ejected from the backs of jetliners with purposeful squirts. They are not continuous, but rather sporadic when planes reach a particular altitude. When such substances are released, they become hyper-heated in the atmosphere to attain a canopy-like distribution above targeted regions. Leaked images of these chemical containers in the bodies of large-sized aircraft regularly surface on the internet, underscoring the veracity of these claims.


Barrels of unknown chemicals are stored in the body of a “chemtrails” plane.


Yet another theory that has been gaining traction and deserves serious consideration is that America’s massive science-industrial complex is attempting a most dangerous experiment. Since Lyndon Johnson’s presidency, we have seen a grave movement towards science-based strategic thinking in all forms of national policy. Whole swathes of government have been taken over by academic PhDs with an intense obsession with scientism. From the National Science Board to the Department of Education, from NASA to the National Institute of Standards, a powerful cadre of elite intellectuals is seizing control. A common thread amongst these activist bureaucrats is a love of science over God.

Links to Radical Atheist Movement

President George W. Bush famously fought against the scientists entrenched in his administration. At many points they promoted evolution “theory” and “global warming” over good old-fashioned common sense. They tried to uproot Christianity in our schools through activist judges. And while President Bush fought the good fight, he ultimately did not win the battle. The long line of anti-theists ruling the inner halls of power since Lyndon Johnson remained in control.

So what is at the heart of this secret society of globalist atheism? One of their most significant concerns is the power of Faith. They despise the Glory of Jesus and the hope that He brings to countless Americans. The atheists are so insanely dedicated to their obscene cult they will try just about anything to destroy every remnant of Christian Love on this earth. As this sickening obsession was wed to advances in aerial spraying technology in the last century, one can surmise the evil compound that resulted. In this formula, it seems quite logical that the atheist’s next step would be to attempt the widespread murder of Jesus’s very Heavenly Agents of Love.


The top secret “EROS” government facility, where data of the efficacy of chemtrails is gathered by atheist scientists.


Will Atheistic Science Annihilate Love and Prayer?


In our lifetime, the United States has been bombarded by supposedly “natural” disasters and terrorist attacks. Religion is at an all time low, while sodomy and perversion are at epic heights. Clearly the overlap of these symptoms with the widespread usage of chemtrails is more than just a coincidence. Clearly the astonishing rise of militant atheism in America must factor in. So what is the ultimate answer to the mystery of the chemtrails? Have Heaven’s angels forsaken us for such an offensive maneuver? Or are they actually losing, dying off in plumes of jetliner butchery? Surely America’s atheists in the great halls of government are asking these very same questions.

read full article: http://harddawn.com/are-militant-atheists-using-chemtrails-to-poison-the-angels-in-heaven/



Atman

(31,464 posts)
14. Was that from The Onion?
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:33 AM
Jan 2015

Wow. But remember, we're NOT discussing chemtrails! Just the discussion I had with my wife about chemtrails.

Archae

(46,318 posts)
22. Not the Onion, but still satire...
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:20 AM
Jan 2015

These are other headlines from that site:

The Terrible Meaning of “Bacon,” The Internet’s Most Disgusting Slang Word

Did the Illuminati Ban KISS From the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame for Satanism?

Are Militant Atheists Using Chemtrails to Poison the Angels in Heaven?

Why Are Cats Immune to Chemtrails? 5 Possible Answers From Science

Keanu Reeves Attempts Bizarre MKUltra Mind Control Technique on Sarah Palin

Are Deep-Sea Dinosaurs Living Proof of the Biblical Timeline?

former9thward

(31,981 posts)
18. Its not the internet.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:47 AM
Jan 2015

My mom, to her dying day, thought poison was being released by the jets. And she never was on the internet even once.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
19. My mom called the cops on me because she thought my iPhone was a tazer or something.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:54 AM
Jan 2015

No kidding. Old people can do some crazy shit.

I showed up to take her to a doctors appointment. She didn't know where she was going. She didn't know the address, she didn't know the directions. She said "Just drive, we'll find it!" But she knew the doctor's name. So I took out my iPhone and launched Google Maps...she freaked out. "What is that thing!" She jumped from the car and ran to the neighbor's house screaming that I was trying to kill her. Cops and mayhem ensued.

And these same people are loose on the internet swearing that the government is spraying mind control chemicals on us. Okay, not my mom...she can't even figure out how to check her e-mail. But there are plenty of others.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
20. Increased levels of Barium and Aluminum in the atmosphere, criss cross patterns in the sky, and
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:05 AM
Jan 2015

because some contrails dissipate immediately while others will still be up there slowly dissipating for an hour, are the reasons conspiracy theorists think it is the govt spreading chemicals.

On one hand, the probability is pretty small that this is actually occurring, but on the other hand I wouldn't put it past our govt to do that.

Mr Dixon

(1,185 posts)
21. IMO
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:13 AM
Jan 2015

Heard about this 10 Years ago there are plenty of websites on this subject, my question has always been even if it is true what the hell you going to do about? Tin Hat's? live underground? wear a gas mask? Madness

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