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The One With The Gun Is A Terrorist - The One On The Ground Is A Muslim (Original Post) kpete Jan 2015 OP
Perfect example of the plain, simple and only explanation that makes perfect sense ....madness. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #1
Mentioning that truth would subvert the agenda malaise Jan 2015 #13
Yes, you had to go to social media to learn who he was. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #20
This simple post, I thank you for, would make a good OP. A victim of pure innocence. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #21
Guns are the calling card of terrorism. onehandle Jan 2015 #2
Powerful image. grahamhgreen Jan 2015 #3
Moi aussi. raging moderate Jan 2015 #4
k&r uppityperson Jan 2015 #5
K&R! Omaha Steve Jan 2015 #6
here we go, "the guy with the gun wasn't a reeeal muslim", the no true scotsman fallacy. m-lekktor Jan 2015 #7
No real atheist would commit mass murder. The absence of religion relieves people of the impulse Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #10
The guy with the gun's a terrorist. The guy on the ground's a Muslim... Violet_Crumble Jan 2015 #11
The two terms are not mutually exclusive... brooklynite Jan 2015 #17
you're saying the guy on the ground's a terrorist too? NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #23
The guy with the gun is a Muslim terrorist. The guy on the ground is a Muslim police officer onenote Jan 2015 #26
what two terms aren't mutually exclusive, according to the poster? NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #32
agreed samsingh Jan 2015 #28
A lot of propaganda effort has been expended to equate "Musliim" and "Terrorist" Maedhros Jan 2015 #34
What a sad thing to see Kevin from WI Jan 2015 #8
knr Douglas Carpenter Jan 2015 #9
Both are Muslims. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jan 2015 #12
She knows that. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #24
So much for "them" and " those" people ... kpete Jan 2015 #14
there is a sizable number of people being taught to kill in the name of the religion samsingh Jan 2015 #29
suicide bombers are muslims too samsingh Jan 2015 #30
illustrated: n2doc Jan 2015 #15
n2doc kpete Jan 2015 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #27
They're both Muslims... MellowDem Jan 2015 #18
BUT kpete Jan 2015 #19
I saw an OP here that appeared to be saying they are ALL terrorists. sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #22
some are going down that road. NewDeal_Dem Jan 2015 #25
true. our inability to stop one resulted in the murder of the other samsingh Jan 2015 #31
It is not that hard to tell the two apart Gothmog Jan 2015 #33

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. Perfect example of the plain, simple and only explanation that makes perfect sense ....madness.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 10:47 PM
Jan 2015

The media played that image a lot for a day or two, little mention this poor man was Muslim...and none since.

malaise

(268,930 posts)
13. Mentioning that truth would subvert the agenda
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 06:22 AM
Jan 2015

From the day the Soviet Union collapsed they needed a new 'project'. Suddenly 'ist' was added to Islam. MIC needs an 'ist'. War (declared or undeclared) is very profitable.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
20. Yes, you had to go to social media to learn who he was.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:14 PM
Jan 2015
Jeff Gauvin ?@JeffersonObama 4h4 hours ago
R.I.P. Ahmed Merabet, a French #Muslim Cop, first victim of #CharlieHebdo attack



RIP brave soul!

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
21. This simple post, I thank you for, would make a good OP. A victim of pure innocence.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:18 PM
Jan 2015

Bless his family as well.

Why the media can not spare some more time to reflect and show compassion....I do not know why.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
7. here we go, "the guy with the gun wasn't a reeeal muslim", the no true scotsman fallacy.
Thu Jan 8, 2015, 11:59 PM
Jan 2015

anything to keep religion above criticism. total bullshit.

Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
10. No real atheist would commit mass murder. The absence of religion relieves people of the impulse
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:40 AM
Jan 2015

to kill in the name of an ideology and power.

Little known fact -- Stalin was a closet Methodist and Mao was probably a Mennonite

Violet_Crumble

(35,961 posts)
11. The guy with the gun's a terrorist. The guy on the ground's a Muslim...
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 05:45 AM
Jan 2015

Doesn't get much easier to understand than that.

RIP Ahmed Merabet and the other 11 victims of that slaughter

 

NewDeal_Dem

(1,049 posts)
23. you're saying the guy on the ground's a terrorist too?
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 07:56 PM
Jan 2015

since the poster already said the muslim with the gun is a terrorist, don't know why you want to corret the poster unless to claim the dead muslim is also a terrorist.

onenote

(42,694 posts)
26. The guy with the gun is a Muslim terrorist. The guy on the ground is a Muslim police officer
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 08:10 PM
Jan 2015

If you want to be accurate.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
28. agreed
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 08:24 PM
Jan 2015

if someone is killing in the name of a religion because of radical teachings. Something in those teachings, even if they subvert a few, cannot be ignored.

If budhists were teaching violence and only 1% of budhists became extremists, i'm pretty sure we would ask the violent teachings to cease.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
34. A lot of propaganda effort has been expended to equate "Musliim" and "Terrorist"
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jan 2015

in the public's mind. The OP reminds us to think critically, and not engage in false equivalencies. The OP was not attempting to exonerate religion from criticism.

Your contention does not apply in this instance, because the OP is not making the True Scotsman Fallacy that you allege.

Kevin from WI

(184 posts)
8. What a sad thing to see
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:54 AM
Jan 2015

This man died. He didn't deserve it. This should have never happened. None of those victims deserved die.

kpete

(71,984 posts)
14. So much for "them" and " those" people ...
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 01:08 PM
Jan 2015

Spread the Word; there's a lot of Ignorant and Uneducated People among us.

samsingh

(17,595 posts)
29. there is a sizable number of people being taught to kill in the name of the religion
Sat Jan 10, 2015, 08:26 PM
Jan 2015

many muslims died in 911.

Response to kpete (Reply #16)

MellowDem

(5,018 posts)
18. They're both Muslims...
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 01:42 PM
Jan 2015

Which might say something about the consistency of religion, much less Islam.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. I saw an OP here that appeared to be saying they are ALL terrorists.
Fri Jan 9, 2015, 04:24 PM
Jan 2015

Surely we are not going down that road here. We went through that in the early 2000s and at that time, it was the other side who were convinced of that.

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