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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hate Bullies with a passion and I'm sure most of you do too
[p]A friend of mines son got punched in the eye and went home with a bloody nose from school, and in the process lost his Christmas gift, a tablet. The boy is 11 years old playing on his tablet while waiting to be picked up by his mother, it was then that two other school mate of his showed up asking to see his tablet, being nice he handed it over to them thinking they're from the same school it should not be a problem, unfortunately for him when it was time for them to give it back they refused so a scuffle ensued until a security guard showed up and break them apart, (two against one) he was left with a black eye and a bloody nose.
Why do people bully other people? Why do some people feel the need to bully others even when they are being ignored?
flvegan
(64,407 posts)Battery and theft.
Why do people bully other people? Ego. Next question?
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Do you have any idea how your post sounds?
flvegan
(64,407 posts)Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)"You're Fired" yes YOU are fired.
[p]Your attitude is exactly the kind that creates a bully environment, you strike me as someone who is a click bait monster, (don't feel offended, just a general observation) one that walks around with their chest pumped intimidating the timid, (see your avatar) these type of people are generally dick heads (not you personally) who feels that every thing should revolve around them and when it doesn't, they throw temper tantrum and start bullying others. So in a way people that bully others are imo always LACKING something.
msongs
(67,382 posts)Kevin from WI
(184 posts)where bullied themselves. I remember a similar incident happened to me (it was a hat, not a tablet). Anyway a couple of years later I saw the kid who beat me up getting changed in the locker room and his back was covered in bruises like he had been whipped and he had scars. I overhead one of his friends ask him what had happened and he said his dad did it. Nobody deserves to be beaten like that, and I realized that that he had it pretty bad at home. I figure living in a culture of violence like that makes violence a form of communication. That is why I don't believe in spanking children and why I never spanked my own.
Warpy
(111,232 posts)None of that excuses their behavior.
The parents need to contact the police and at least report the theft.
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)Without going into too many details, someone I know was arrested about two years ago for breaking his fifteen-year-old son's nose in a fight. A relative was quick to tell me that the son hit him first. I replied that no kid I know ever hit his dad without the dad first teaching him that hitting is okay.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)the office?
I would go to the school and find out if they have a problem before calling the police.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)call the cops.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)[p]I think the principle here is that the two kids felt the need to bully the other kid from him being kind. It's as if you can't be nice to a stranger any more, but in this instance the two kids were not strangers because they go to the same school.
sharp_stick
(14,400 posts)I was lucky enough to grow up pretty much free of bullies but I despise them in any case.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)And it's way easier to get action and justice around theft than around bullying.
Nay
(12,051 posts)assholes will get their comeuppance.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)[p]what use is it to call the cops and give them unnecessary record that will destroy their future, she told me later that they didn't take the tablet, but the screen was damaged and she will need to repair it.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)it seems like, and I hope it's true, that our society is becoming less tolerant of this. I'm hearing a lot about anti-bullying efforts. Of course this is causing great consternation among the conservatives, who worry that anti-bullying programs will sap us of our precious bodily fluid.
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DrDan
(20,411 posts)But it seems to me that some are trying to make the transition to on-line space.
For example, I think profuse profanity and attempts at branding/labeling are attempts to cyber-bully. We certainly have some examples of that behavior here.
Hutzpa
(11,461 posts)[p]and as you've rightly put it. you see the same mentality and sometimes same tactics being used on DU. Some people came from a very challenging background which I think they use as leverage to enforce their superiority on others that unfortunately have not been through violent events such as watching their parents fight each other with knives, watching their father beat on their mother on a daily basis, these are just few examples that have shaped the society we see today.
[p]The beauty about Mother America is that she accommodates all sorts of human beings, she gives people chances that generally will fail in their country of origins.
[p]I hope this never do materializes because as you've seen ideologue is a disease that is hard to eradicate.
dumbcat
(2,120 posts)Figure that out, and you will have your answer.
It is normal for kids to have some aggression. It starts with toddlers when the goal is to get a toy or space or person that another kid has, so they push or bite but the goal isn't really to hurt someone. They only see their own point of view and dont understand other peoples perspectives. Most of those kids stop doing this and replace those actions with words. But a few of them got what they wanted and it was rewarding, and as they grow to preschoolers they use aggression as a strategy and begin to use it to make themselves feel more powerful. Now, combine that with aggressive models, being a victim of aggression, desensitization of aggression from media, and even intentional coaching of aggression and the child sees aggression as a way to get what they want and to feel better about themselves. This goes beyond that level of aggression typical of young children. Some get more sophisticated and start using verbal threats and name calling, and exclusion, gossiping as weopons. As they transition to elementary school, they have mistaken perceptions of themselves and others. They mistakenly believe that other children respect them and look up to them for their bullying behavior. In ambiguous situations, they believe that others have hostile intentions to themselves, and over attribute hostility to others. They become attentive to and stimulated by aggressive stimuli and seek it out. They develop a sense of the world as might makes right, tge way tyo get people to do what you want us to force them.They begin too very carefully select their victims, and have interactions with the victims over time. Some bully's are former victims themselves, some are victims of other bullies right now, some where never victims.
Initech
(100,059 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
NaturalHigh
(12,778 posts)My best guess is that they are insecure and feel really bad about themselves.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I'd call the police and ask them to have child welfare present when they go see the kid and his parents. You never know what situation the other child is in. May be abused himself. Usually the bullies I knew were abused children.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I was bullied as a young kid. Then I learned boxing and Judo, and started bloodying my attackers. But back then, bloodying bullies who started fights was considered to be a fine thing by adults in responsible positions - I was actually cheered on by them. Nowadays, I'd expect that fighting back would be seen as a bad thing. But a bloody nose is sometimes the only way to dissuade a bully.
I'm rambling, sorry. But it's a problem. Some people are just bullies.
edgineered
(2,101 posts)so many times as the smallest kid i had to take it, but things changed. there came a time when i could not resist getting inbetween a bully and his victim(s) - regardless of the reason for the bullying. the plus side was that win or lose i never witnessed the same person bullying again. now i realize that i really didn't have to beat so many of them up, although they wouldn't have learned not to bully.