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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsParis rally shaping up to be a who's who of world leaders who have suppressed their own journalists
https://twitter.com/YousefMunayyer/status/554065804602650624More plus some amazing photos here:
http://www.therepublic.com/view/photos/bf551102830847ffb8913d1ebdebdc10/89256410598
http://www.wsj.com/articles/thousands-join-rally-in-paris-condemning-attack-at-charlie-hebdo-1420671556?mod=fox_australian
UPDATED TO INCLUDE THIS GEM:
From: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/11/paris-world-leaders-solidarity-rally-terror-attacks
kind of gives me chills,
kp
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Without using Google or the like.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Take a moment to savour the irony of that. Some active and meaningful steps toward peace on the part of those two would help to take some of the tension out of the region. Not all of it because some of this is sectarian within Islam itself. But it would certainly help.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)not show a picture as the reporter was relaying this information. It was interesting to hear a guest on MHP's show about half an hour ago point out most of these leaders present are presenting a tableau of hypocrisy since many have engaged in suppression of speech in their own nations.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,227 posts)or liberty, to further their own agendas.
Theresa May up there, the current UK Home Secretary, for instance, is worth Googling if you want to find out how she's following the long British tradition of right-wing Home Secretaries from both Labour and the Conservatives.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)"We have a lot of new friends, like the pope, Queen Elizabeth and (Russian President Vladimir) Putin. It really makes me laugh," Bernard Holtrop, whose pen name is Willem, told the Dutch centre-left daily Volkskrant in an interview published Saturday.
France's far-right National Front leader "Marine Le Pen is delighted when the Islamists start shooting all over the place," said Willem, 73, a longtime Paris resident who also draws for the French leftist daily Liberation.
He added: "We vomit on all these people who suddenly say they are our friends."
Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)which is why he is capable of creating art.
kpete
(71,980 posts)Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)Just to be sure and because I can, I always double-check this kind of stuff in "French Version Originale" rather than trusting the "subtitles". Sometimes it can make a difference.
ananda
(28,856 posts)..
JEB
(4,748 posts)It's just a photo op and a chance to promote their own repression and maybe even a little action for the MIC.
malaise
(268,846 posts)reminded her of Madame Roland's comment on her way to her execution
"O Liberté, que de crimes on commet en ton nom"!
Oh Liberty, what crimes are committed in thy name!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts).
The good thing about bullshit parades is that the clean sparkly pieces of truth really stand out!
Thanks for sparkling, kpete!
in sparkle!
peace,
kp
B2G
(9,766 posts)m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)Ykcutnek
(1,305 posts)Daaamn, where have I been.
Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)So few words to express so much bitter irony.
To be fair however, and look at the bigger context, they are physically present to show unity against the terrorist attacks. We always have to start at the point in which we all can agree and then work on from there.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)frazzled
(18,402 posts)Nice try at deflecting the story away from its real subject, which is an ideological movement that is real, and has killed not just 12 journalists at a satirical publication. It's about an ideology of jihad that has been recruiting young people from around the world for some years and is growing. It's about the thousands upon thousands of Muslims who have been murdered, raped, and beheaded in Syria and Iraq. It's about sending a ten-year-old with a bomb strapped to her chest into a Nigerian square. It's about a belief that says you have a duty to eliminate (literally) non-believers or other-believers. And it's a big problem. It's attractive to a lot of young males.
So no. If you have an issue with Eric Holder expressing an opinion that the government has a right to compel the revealing of a source in particular cases, that's fine. It's an issue too. But it's not THIS issue. And it's not in any way commensurate with what happened in Paris. James Risen hasn't gone to jail (and probably won't), and he certainly hasn't been gunned down or prevented from writing whatever he wants.
It's a question once more of trying to hijack a story about a real-world problem into a juvenile and hyperbolic anti-statist screed. Well, I'll tell you. Proudhonian anti-statism died out a long time ago, when Marxism prevailed. I suppose it's the death of Marxist political philosophy that has allowed the re-emergence of this kind of thinking and tactics. But it is truly an offense not only to governments and civil society, but to journalists as well.
Flatulo
(5,005 posts)naughty individuals with no particular agenda.
I know this because even our president and attorney general will not come out and state, in plain English, that we are at war with radical Islam, like the French PM did.
Pooka Fey
(3,496 posts)SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
oberliner
(58,724 posts)He is Russia's representative there.
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DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)- It's like they're only there to get an alibi or to create mitigating evidence for their trials later......
K&R