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stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 05:26 PM Jan 2015

Children's rights ombudsman in anti-LGBT Russia says "No sex ed, read Tolstoy instead!"

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-will-never-introduce-sex-education-in-schools-children-s-ombudsman/512222.html

You don't need sex education when you have Russian literary giants Leo Tolstoy and Fyodor Dostoevsky to enlighten you on the murky realities of the bedroom.

This, at least, appears to be the view of Russia's children's rights ombudsman Pavel Astakhov, who said on Monday that the country would not introduce sex education in schools because it contradicts Russia's moral norms and traditions.

"I am often asked: When will you have sex education? I say: Never," Astakhov snapped at a meeting with Russian parents, Interfax news agency reported.
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Astakhov gave his own recipe for teaching teenagers about sex last year, when he said Russian literature offered a goldmine of information on the subject.

“Children need to read more, it has everything on love and relationship of the sexes,” Astakhov told Rossia-24 television.
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Children's rights ombudsman in anti-LGBT Russia says "No sex ed, read Tolstoy instead!" (Original Post) stevenleser Jan 2015 OP
Abortion is referred to in War and Peace. trackfan Jan 2015 #1
Not having sex ed is part of the entrapment scheme to discriminate, Trillo Jan 2015 #2
Late Tolstoy, probably. Igel Jan 2015 #3
I agree about the sex-ed thing. Entrapment/shame/control is behind it stevenleser Jan 2015 #4

trackfan

(3,650 posts)
1. Abortion is referred to in War and Peace.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 06:10 PM
Jan 2015

Ironically, your best bet in getting one, IIRC, was to become a Catholic.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
2. Not having sex ed is part of the entrapment scheme to discriminate,
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jan 2015

particularly against children who don't know much yet. Let us not explain this to you, so we can beat you around a bit when you first pick wrong.

Edit, and on Tolstoy, first result I found:

"Copulation is an abomination which can only be thought of without revulsion under the influence of sexual desire. Even in order to have children you wouldn't do this to a woman you love."
-Leo Tolstoy

Igel

(35,300 posts)
3. Late Tolstoy, probably.
Thu Jan 15, 2015, 08:08 PM
Jan 2015

He changed at some point. But was usually torn even late in life between yielding to "his flesh" and being "pure."

Most people that conflate Tolstoy's views with Gandhi know little of Tolstoy. He wrote a great game. He lived it rather intermittently. (We can say "bipolar." Can we say "bimoral" with the same kind of meaning, but instead of it dealing with emotions we apply it to morality?&quot

Like Dostoevsky. Have always had a certain antipathy for the Thick One.

Tolstaya's not bad. A bit grim, perhaps, but consistent.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. I agree about the sex-ed thing. Entrapment/shame/control is behind it
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 10:01 AM
Jan 2015

Russia is hurtling headlong into neo-Feudalism. The Russian Orthodox Church has reasserted itself as it was in Tsarist times and colludes with the government to control the population.

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