It all started over whose god was more peaceful, kind, and forgiving.

[madfloridian]

Thanks to Kal toons

[isobar]

1. Such is humanity in this day.

[blkmusclmachine]

2. ,

,

[seveneyes]

3. Strength in numbers

Religion was just a path to sucker in more numbers.

[Skittles]

4. and more and more people are getting fed up with the lot of them

they make life miserable for SO MANY PEOPLE

[alterfurz]

5. "With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil...

...but for good people to do evil -- that takes religion." -- Steven Weinberg

[madfloridian]

21. .....

So much evil has been done in the name of religion....I appreciate that cartoon so much.

[countryjake]

6. I'm not really sure that I agree with the intent of that cartoon...

but, then again, maybe those are capitalist running dogs speaking.

Such a simple premise asks us to ignore colonialism, imperialism, blood for oil, and the entire war on "terror".

[MisterP]

8. I know--it's like they forgot two world wars and a Cold War

in fact I feel like offering to PayPal someone money if they can find one battle over whose god was more loving or forgiving (and I thought the problem was the clergy blessing the war)

[truebrit71]

9. Um. .. the entire crusades maybe?

And take your pick of any religious/ethnic cleansing throughout history. ..

[beam me up scottie]

12. But those guys weren't Real Christians™

Haven't you heard?

[Telcontar]

25. Crusades were the defense

Christians got over run by Muslim expansionism.

[el_bryanto]

26. That's simplistic to the point of distortion. nt

[Telcontar]

28. Mm, no not really. Certainly no more so than equating the Crusades

to events today and trying to portray some kind of moral equivilancy between Christians and Muslim extremists.

Islamic armies overran the Christian states in the Levant. Pope called upon Christian Europe to retake the Holy Lands. Called the whole thing the Crusades. Exactly what was distorted?

[el_bryanto]

29. It's simplistic to the point of distortion - because the Crusades lasted for a long time and

involved many crusades. To say that it's all that simple - to paint the Christians as unequivical good guy defenders is a distortion.

Bryant

[Telcontar]

30. History's not your strong point I see

Nothing I said is a contradiction of historical fact. Readers Digest version that lacks subtilty, I'll grantuou. Distorted it is not

[el_bryanto]

31. Ummm - actually I have a masters degree in history -

I'll admit the Crusades isn't my area of expertise, but even a wikipedia search reveals that there is more to the crusades than the simplistic version of events you gave.

Again it may be true, but that doesn't mean it paints the whole story. Or even enough of a story that you can understand what happned.

Bryant

[countryjake]

16. Well, seeing as how the cartoon was published just this week...

I believe that the artist is making some sort of a statement about the events of last week, which I tend to think go a lot deeper than crazed fundamentalists or even religion, at all.

[MisterP]

18. I've always said one does't need propaganda when you have bumper-sticker thinking: why listen to the

experts and their long analyses and stubborn facts when you have a snappy quip?

of course by their logic the Hundred Days in 1918 was Lutheranism's last stand against Anglicanism ...

[madfloridian]

22. I think it certainly is causing discussion

and that's not a bad thing. I think there are many levels in that cartoon, and people use their own experiences to interpret.

[malaise]

23. Precisely

Religion has been and is being used for plunder.

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. yeah...

So glad I'm a non-believer.

For all the good that will do me.

[Skittles]

10. I'm a believer; I just do not believe in bullshit

[madfloridian]

11. Oddly enough the God taught us as children by Southern Baptists..

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mostly was a god of vengeance. There was some qualities of love mixed in, but we were taught to fear that he could see everything we did. Add that to the belief we were already sinners...now that's fear.

On edit: yes I really do know how to spell Southern. The t key sticks on my computer if I am not careful.

[WestCoastLib]

15. Nobody that preaches along with the bible is teaching a forgiving god

The words that come out of the preacher's mouth may say that is good, kind and forgiving, but if he teaches from the bible, or urges his constituents to read the bible, it's pretty clear that god is vengeful, cruel and hypocritical.

[LiberalCatholic]

20. That's the Old Testament

The New Testament (what Christians are supposed to belive) presents God as a loving father and our role as a way to bring light to a dark world. I am Catholic and almost all the priests that I have known have preached this. The book is not the problem- the people reading it is. There is a lot more power to be gained from fear than from love.

[bvf]

32. Christians aren't supposed to believe the OT?

Where's the part that says you can throw away Leviticus?

[hunter]

35. Matthew 15:11

Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.

[Arugula Latte]

19. You were born evil -- that's a healthy message to give a child, eh?!

[madfloridian]

24. We were all sinners is what we were taught early on.

Yes, it's an unhealthy message.

[bvf]

34. This cannot be pointed out often enough.

The louder, the better.

[oneview]

13. Not true. This is just forced irony.

No Islamic extremists, and very few (if any) promoters of more moderate Islam try to make the case that their God "is more peace-loving, kind and forgiving." Very few garden-variety fundamentalist Christians would try to claim that either.

They'd both claim instead that theirs was the TRUE God, their Scriptures are uniqely inspired, and their Jesus or their Mohammed was the one particular man of God that we should all imitate.

Lazy, content-free forced irony.

[lastlib]

14. "Mankind will never truly be free....

...until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." --Diderot

[KingCharlemagne]

27. G-damned pointy-headed intellectual! :sarcasm: - nt

[progressoid]

17. Now, now, no fair mocking religion.

[Warren DeMontague]

33. Now, a word from God-Man: