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Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 10:52 AM Jan 2015

Which of the 11 American nations do you live in?

Red states and blue states? Flyover country and the coasts? How simplistic. Colin Woodard, a reporter at the Portland Press Herald and author of several books, says North America can be broken neatly into 11 separate nation-states, where dominant cultures explain our voting behaviors and attitudes toward everything from social issues to the role of government.

“The borders of my eleven American nations are reflected in many different types of maps — including maps showing the distribution of linguistic dialects, the spread of cultural artifacts, the prevalence of different religious denominations, and the county-by-county breakdown of voting in virtually every hotly contested presidential race in our history,” Woodard writes in the Fall 2013 issue of Tufts University’s alumni magazine. “Our continent’s famed mobility has been reinforcing, not dissolving, regional differences, as people increasingly sort themselves into like-minded communities.”

Take a look at his map:

Woodard lays out his map in the new book “American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America.” Here’s how he breaks down the continent:

Yankeedom: Founded by Puritans, residents in Northeastern states and the industrial Midwest tend to be more comfortable with government regulation. They value education and the common good more than other regions.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2013/11/08/which-of-the-11-american-nations-do-you-live-in/

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Which of the 11 American nations do you live in? (Original Post) Katashi_itto Jan 2015 OP
Which corporations own each nation? nt valerief Jan 2015 #1
Greater Appalachia brer cat Jan 2015 #2
"Outsiders." merrily Jan 2015 #4
Greater Appalachia: Brigid Jan 2015 #3
Texas ain't Appalachian. d_r Jan 2015 #5
The Midlands, or the Tidewater MiniMe Jan 2015 #6
ditto nt LiberalEsto Jan 2015 #23
Love the "New France" note Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #7
I am not sure MN is in the dark blue area of the midlands? So I guess we are part of Yankeedom? jwirr Jan 2015 #8
New France here -New Orleans Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #9
So, according to this map anything south of Tampa.. giftedgirl77 Jan 2015 #10
Lol...reading the article might help. Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #11
Yeah, I did. It's also dumb as shit but thanks for the laughs. giftedgirl77 Jan 2015 #12
Lol...Project much? Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #14
That's cute, I post my opinion regarding an article giftedgirl77 Jan 2015 #16
Lol...! Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #17
Tidewater. Inland Tidewater. nt Nay Jan 2015 #13
Greater Appalachia, Central Indiana. NuclearDem Jan 2015 #15
. . . Brigid Jan 2015 #21
Me, too.... AwakeAtLast Jan 2015 #44
The Left Coast, Nike-dom. JEB Jan 2015 #18
Left Coast. n/t GP6971 Jan 2015 #19
The REAL Appalachia. paleotn Jan 2015 #20
New Netherland RoccoR5955 Jan 2015 #22
Yankeedom bigwillq Jan 2015 #24
From New France to the Left Coast. It actually works pretty well. nolabear Jan 2015 #25
Lower Dumbfuckistan Fuddnik Jan 2015 #26
All of 'em! Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #27
OMG!! How about a warning next time!? Brigid Jan 2015 #36
You must gaze upon The Stupid to make yourself immune Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #40
And to top it off, Brigid Jan 2015 #41
Yankeedom sarge43 Jan 2015 #28
The Far West. truebluegreen Jan 2015 #29
Appalachia bobclark86 Jan 2015 #30
Born in Yankeedom, living in exile in the Spanish Caribbean. I like varied maps of human reality. ancianita Jan 2015 #31
Nothing for the Rust Belt? Spitfire of ATJ Jan 2015 #32
Just outside of L.A. Iggo Jan 2015 #33
This not a new idea. The_Commonist Jan 2015 #34
When do we start? markmyword Jan 2015 #35
When do we start what? The_Commonist Jan 2015 #37
Where can I opt-out and get the 40 acres and a mule?-nt Anansi1171 Jan 2015 #38
I'm trying to figure out how the Midlands can extend from Northern Texas... SidDithers Jan 2015 #39
Onondaga. H2O Man Jan 2015 #42
I'm in LWolf Jan 2015 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #45
I am in the Midlands by two blocks. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #46
I live in New York brooklynite Jan 2015 #47

brer cat

(24,401 posts)
2. Greater Appalachia
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jan 2015

"the descendants of Irish, English and Scottish settlers value individual liberty. Residents are 'intensely suspicious of lowland aristocrats and Yankee social engineers.'"

The natives where I live have historically been intensely suspicious of any outsiders.

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
3. Greater Appalachia:
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:04 AM
Jan 2015

"Intensely suspicious of lowland aristocrats and Yankee social engineers. " Yep, that's us.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
5. Texas ain't Appalachian.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:12 AM
Jan 2015

Or OK no nm Kansas ark Ill Ind west ky or middle tenn. East Tenn is more different from Penn's or south Ohio than west Florida south al and ms are from Nola. Orlando and Tampa ain't deep south.and the wrap around great lakes states. Not as simplistic as this map.

MiniMe

(21,676 posts)
6. The Midlands, or the Tidewater
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:16 AM
Jan 2015

Can't tell in that map which. I live in Maryland, just NW of Washington, DC.

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
10. So, according to this map anything south of Tampa..
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:32 AM
Jan 2015

Is no longer part of the US & Tampa is the deep south? This ass needs to lay of the acid

 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
16. That's cute, I post my opinion regarding an article
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 11:46 AM
Jan 2015

& you feel the need to insult me. Be gone now....

paleotn

(17,778 posts)
20. The REAL Appalachia.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jan 2015

The Southern Appalachians, pronounced Appa-LATCH-uh thank you very damn much, have little in common culturally with TX, OK, MO most of TN and the rest. Our ancestry is a distinct sub culture of Scots and Scots Irish immigrants and we should be an island to ourselves encompassing only the Appalachian Mtns south of South Mountain and the valley / ridge and Cumberland Plateau provinces of TN and KY. However, I'm not too sure about Knoxville and Chattanooga as they seem to be a bit odd. The rest of TN can have them. I suppose that proves the authors description of us and we are intensely suspicious of outsiders, particularly those with Floriduh plates (get out!), but it applies far, far less to the rest of that oversimplified, red region.

Move that Tidewater line to Greenville, NC and East. Central NC has far more in common with TN and KY than coastal VA. Coastal SC (Charleston, Georgetown etc) has been Tidewater since the freaking 17th century! FL is "deep south" down to Lake Okeechobee? Hell, I thought you had to go north of Gainesville before grits and sweet tea became common on the menu.

Who drew up this map anyway? A damn New Yorker?

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
22. New Netherland
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:28 PM
Jan 2015

This area actually extends as far north along the Hudson as Albany, NY.
There are still Dutch influences here. The architecture, the multi-cultural atmosphere are alive and well here, and people are moving up from NYC all the time.

nolabear

(41,915 posts)
25. From New France to the Left Coast. It actually works pretty well.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 12:44 PM
Jan 2015

I guess I'm from the Deep South-New France border, but there's a lot of bleed. New Orleans is well known as the westernmost part of the Caribbean too. And Seattle is as left as it gets. Oddly, I love both. It's not as hard as it seems. France is pretty liberal in a whole lot of ways.

 

Stephen Retired

(190 posts)
40. You must gaze upon The Stupid to make yourself immune
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 03:22 PM
Jan 2015

Kind of like the Devil, except that's he's less dangerous than Sarah.

sarge43

(28,939 posts)
28. Yankeedom
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:04 PM
Jan 2015

Born in Michigan, live in New Hampshire. Not comfortable with all government regulations, but the ones that benefit the common good, ayeup. Education: The most important tool for keeping the bs detector calibrated.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
29. The Far West.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:19 PM
Jan 2015

I've always found it deeply amusing that the rugged individualists of the Far West are "intensely libertarian and deeply distrustful of big institutions, whether they are railroads and monopolies or the federal government" when those same big institutions made it possible to live there.

Without welfare ranching, welfare mining, welfare farming, welfare railroads, etc. etc. etc., much of the interior West (and Alaska!) would never have been developed.

bobclark86

(1,415 posts)
30. Appalachia
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:35 PM
Jan 2015


If you think Northern Pennsylvania and the Southern Tier of New York were "founded by Puritans," "tend to be more comfortable with government regulation," and "value education and the common good more than other regions," I have a bridge to sell you that spans both the Allegheny River and Susquehanna.

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
31. Born in Yankeedom, living in exile in the Spanish Caribbean. I like varied maps of human reality.
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 01:44 PM
Jan 2015

This was an interesting read. Thanks very much!

markmyword

(180 posts)
35. When do we start?
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:03 PM
Jan 2015

I'm so fed up with all the crazies living in the South and far West.
This would be great, so us folks in the North can move forward with the times. If the South wants to pray all day, and run their lives according to the Bible, then let them, but not on my dime!

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
39. I'm trying to figure out how the Midlands can extend from Northern Texas...
Sun Jan 18, 2015, 02:57 PM
Jan 2015

to Northern Ontario.

That's gerrymandering worse than a Texas congressional district.

Sid

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MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
46. I am in the Midlands by two blocks.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:05 AM
Jan 2015

I clicked to the larger map with counties. I am two blocks from Yankeedom.

I consider myself in YAnkeedom, and my neighborhood would qualify.

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