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Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:02 PM

 

Click here to watch "American Sniper" short version

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Reply Click here to watch "American Sniper" short version (Original post)
JackRiddler Jan 2015 OP
JackRiddler Jan 2015 #1
2naSalit Jan 2015 #2
HappyMe Jan 2015 #3
JackRiddler Jan 2015 #4
HappyMe Jan 2015 #5
frylock Jan 2015 #7
jmowreader Jan 2015 #6
frylock Jan 2015 #8
JackRiddler Jan 2015 #9
JackRiddler Jan 2015 #10

Response to JackRiddler (Original post)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:09 PM

1. Glorifying a war of aggression, check.

 

Heroizing a mass murderer, exploring his poignant psychological depths, check.

Totally kills hundreds of enemy, check.

Enemy stupid, heartless, uses babies as human shields, check.

The big difference between Eastwood and Tarantino's fictionalized Goebbels is that the U.S. empire doesn't need no stinking propaganda ministry. We have a glorious multi-billion-dollar film industry.

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Response to JackRiddler (Original post)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:33 PM

2. If there were no glory in these acts

eventually people might stop wanting to do/be that way. At least a vast majority of "thinking" people. So maybe we should start shunning these films for starters. If we refuse to give them our money to see these (box office losers) maybe they will stop making them. The intent for making such a movie may have been to expose the fallacy of the glory we afford this type of heinous practice but it seems to be serving as a rallying cry for Grand Theft Auto armchair heroes/thugs instead. So if we reject such "entertainment" maybe we can start to correct our problem.

Money talks, apparently, so if we starve the movie makers of cash for glorifying this POS, we make a loud statement. This can work both ways, rather than throwing money at something we can also withhold it, which is also considered free speech. In theory that is.

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Response to 2naSalit (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 01:41 PM

3. It's only free speech if it's something we like.

If we don't like it, then it must be stamped out by withholding money.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #3)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:30 PM

4. That's an irrational statement.

 

People get to spend their money as they like, and if they choose to boycott a movie, or to use their own speech rights to call for a boycott, that is not "stamping out" free speech. Free speech rights refer to freedom from government censorship, or at least freedom from force generally. Not paying for something is not force! By your logic, should we all be taxed to pay for Eastwood's movie, so as to protect his free speech rights?

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Response to JackRiddler (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:33 PM

5. Not at all irrational.

The other poster suggested that if people didn't pay to see any type of XYZ movie, then none of those kinds would be made any more.

I still stand by it.

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Response to HappyMe (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:15 PM

7. that's free market capitalism, and has nothing whatsoever to do with the First Amendment

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Response to JackRiddler (Original post)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 02:54 PM

6. In case anyone didn't get the joke...

This is the film-within-a-film from Quentin Tarantino's Inglourious Basterds.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 03:16 PM

8. the movie poster for 'A Nation's Pride' has become a meme on any 'American Sniper' threads..

on Facebook.

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Response to frylock (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:31 PM

9. It has? Haven't seen any examples.

 

I sincerely thought I was the first to notice.

Hero sniper killing 100+ enemy, check.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #6)

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 09:31 PM

10. It's about the deep suffering of a complex person.

 

The war isn't really the question, we must judge it independently as a work of art!!!



(I think that's the first DU smiley I've used in years.)

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