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Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:14 PM Jan 2015

I got the NFL OT rules thing wrong and I apologize

one thing i hate about arguing with the teabaggers is they never admit when they were wrong and adjust their arguments accordingly.

cant have an honest discussion unless everyone agrees on the facts.

when someone gets facts wrong they should be willing to stand up and admit it

yesterday i was under the impression that the nfl went back to sudden death OT rules. first team to score any points wins. i checked on the nfl website and they have old outdated information on there which still has the old sudden death rules on it.


turns out the rules changes in 2012 was to adopt the rules for regular season games that now existed in the playoffs.

if the seahawks had only kicked a FG, the pack would have been given a chance to tie / win the game. but since the hawks scored a TD, the pack was SOL. game over.

IMO the team who allows a TD but is not given a chance to get a TD themselves to tie it back up IS getting robbed of a fair chance to win the OT period.

current rules are like half sudden death/ half each team gets a chance depending on the first score.

still makes no sense. sudden death makes even less.

NFL should make some more changes to the rules and get this straightened out. no playoff game should end like that. (id be saying the same thing if the pack had won in the same way btw)





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I got the NFL OT rules thing wrong and I apologize (Original Post) Garion_55 Jan 2015 OP
I was stupider for reading the first thread. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #1
nah. just making sure there is closure from the last post Garion_55 Jan 2015 #3
Your response Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #4
Good point. The stupid should be spread far and wide! Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #8
This thread interrupted me when I was watching Ow My Balls Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #9
"Ow My Balls" ... Whiskeytide Jan 2015 #13
You're going to have to wait 500 years pokerfan Jan 2015 #17
Probably because they want some finality and as the game goes on fatigue sets in ... DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2015 #2
thats been kind my thought too Garion_55 Jan 2015 #5
And multiple injuries. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #7
The Packers had a chance to win on its first score, too. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #6
It's Seattle's offense against Greenbay's defense brush Jan 2015 #10
that relies too much on luck and Garion_55 Jan 2015 #11
That's the seemingly fair way to look at it, but . . . brush Jan 2015 #15
Adherence to the same rulebook handed the previous game to the Packers over Dallas pnwmom Jan 2015 #12
Under the old rule AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #14
I think it's a fair compromise pokerfan Jan 2015 #16
 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
1. I was stupider for reading the first thread.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:19 PM
Jan 2015

Now we are going to have the same exact discussion over again?

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
13. "Ow My Balls" ...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:04 PM
Jan 2015

... say what you want, but that is a freakin' brilliant idea for a reality TV show!!!

I would never miss an episode of "Ow My Balls"!

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
2. Probably because they want some finality and as the game goes on fatigue sets in ...
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:19 PM
Jan 2015

Probably because they want some finality and as the game goes on fatigue sets in and more opportunity for injury.

Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
5. thats been kind my thought too
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:21 PM
Jan 2015

plus the fact that its week 18 or 19 whatever and these guy have to be worn out.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
6. The Packers had a chance to win on its first score, too.
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 04:22 PM
Jan 2015

Had the Packers forced a safety, it would have been game over. No opportunity for the free kick and a chance to counter the score for the Seahawks.

This is professional football. Touchdowns are difficult to come by, as are safeties. Both can be easier in college ball.

brush

(53,764 posts)
10. It's Seattle's offense against Greenbay's defense
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 05:27 PM
Jan 2015

Since Seattle won the coin flip their offense was challenged to score and Greenbay's defense was challenged to stop them from scoring.

Mano a mano. Whoever prevails wins.

It's hard but somehow fair.



Garion_55

(1,915 posts)
11. that relies too much on luck and
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 06:27 PM
Jan 2015

football teams are made up of offensive and defensive squads with two different purposes.

defense is typically there to stop the other guy. offense their job is to either score or get close enough for the score.

because the packers defense failed shouldnt mean the whole team loses. the offense should get at least one set of downs to redeem their defense.


coin flips end up too often with the guy winning the flip winning the game. thats about chance not skill.

coin flip in OT should only decide whose offense gets the first shot at scoring

brush

(53,764 posts)
15. That's the seemingly fair way to look at it, but . . .
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 10:30 PM
Jan 2015

Last edited Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:09 PM - Edit history (1)

imo, a team's defense, with it's coordinator and position coaches and — a season of games and practices and hours of film study of the current opponent's offense, is there to stop said offense. And they are paid to produce a defensive stop, as they did for most of Sunday's game.

They we're called upon to earn their money when it counted most. They couldn't make a play to stop Seattle, or even hold them to a field goal and thus enable their offense to get a shot.

Seattle's offense, with identical credentials — a season of games and practices and hours of study of the current opponent's defense — were able to make plays to score a touchdown, thus they won.

Like I said, it's hard but it was fair.

It's the NFL, not peewee league football where everybody gets a trophy.


pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
12. Adherence to the same rulebook handed the previous game to the Packers over Dallas
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 06:56 PM
Jan 2015

in the last few minutes.

Did you object to that rule, too?

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
14. Under the old rule
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:06 PM
Jan 2015

...there was no reason to score touchdowns in OT, which made OT less exciting. Now, TDs rule in OT, plus both teams get a shot if a FG. Vast improvement, IMHO.

pokerfan

(27,677 posts)
16. I think it's a fair compromise
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 11:34 PM
Jan 2015

College OTs, while exciting, can extend to three, four or more OTs which seems ridiculous to me. Plus they don't have to drive the length of the field.

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