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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 08:23 AM Jan 2015

SOTU Schizophrenia: Middle-Class Jobs vs. Fast Track and TPP

SOTU Schizophrenia: Middle-Class Jobs vs. Fast Track and TPP
1/20/2015

Tonight's State of the Union speech will spotlight a core conflict in the Obama presidency that will shape his legacy: either Obama will be the president whose initiatives to address income inequality and wage stagnation helped rebuild America's middle class, or he will prioritize a trade agenda that will offshore more good-paying jobs, destroy what is left of the American manufacturing sector, increase income inequality and speed the demise of America's middle class. He cannot do both.

Instead of delivering on Obama's campaign promises to create a new American trade policy that would benefit more Americans, the Obama administration has replicated and expanded on the old trade pact model. It includes provisions that make it easier for corporations to send our job overseas and, in the case of the proposed Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP), terms that would undermine U.S. wages by making Americans compete with Vietnamese workers making 56 cents per hour.

The past deals that serve as the template for Obama's pacts have been so damaging that supporters of his 2011 Korea Free Trade Agreement (FTA) and of the 1990s North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) now oppose Obama's massive TPP and the fast-track authority that would allow him to sign the deal before Congress thoroughly reviews and approves its contents.

Former Clinton Labor Secretary and NAFTA booster Robert Reich is calling for fast track and the TPP, which he calls a corporate Trojan horse, to be defeated. Paul Krugman recently warned about what lurks within the TPP, after initially cautioning about the pact. He joins pro-free-trade economists like Jeffrey Sachs and Joseph Stiglitz in warning about the TPP's threats....


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lori-wallach/sotu-schizophrenia-middle_b_6509296.html



But WOW, are they excited for the TPP in Vietnam!!!

Vietnam awaits Trans-Pacific Partnership signing
1/21/15

Through the TPP, Vietnam is seeking to help establish a trade and investment framework that supports job creation, promotes the nations competitiveness and expands trade.

Vietnam’s participation in the TPP is well founded as there is near unanimity among leading economists that the nation’s economy will be the largest beneficiary on the TPP track.



The TPP will promote strong trade with the US and other member nations, provide high protection for the apparel and footwear sector in foreign markets, which are Vietnam’s principal exports, and it will put Vietnam in a strong competitive position in these and other manufacturing industries where China’s comparative advantage is fading.

Specifically they have said the TPP will help create favourable conditions for the nation’s exports to grow thanks to such factors as the huge market and zero import tariffs on substantially all exports – which will benefit Vietnam’s strengths in the garment and textile, footwear, seafood, wood products and agriculture sectors.

On the reverse side however, the reduction of import tariffs TPP will bring with it fierce competition in the domestic market and some key products of the country will meet increased challenges including pork, beef, sugar, wine, egg and paper to name only a few.

Vietnam is blessed with a young and highly-educated workforce, a sizeable domestic market and geographical advantages. The TPP will increase Vietnam’s appeal as an investment destination and increase the flow of foreign direct investment (FDI).

It will result in higher incomes for Vietnamese workers and enable the country to invest more in own economy and grow more rapidly. This growth will in turn amplify the country’s competitive advantages, they have said....

http://english.vietnamnet.vn/fms/business/121471/vietnam-awaits-trans-pacific-partnership-signing.html


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SOTU Schizophrenia: Middle-Class Jobs vs. Fast Track and TPP (Original Post) RiverLover Jan 2015 OP
K&R Obscene Oligarchy Theater. woo me with science Jan 2015 #1
kick woo me with science Jan 2015 #2
kick woo me with science Jan 2015 #3
Middle class jobs speak while calling for TPP fast track. More community college training appalachiablue Jan 2015 #4
+100 ND-Dem Jan 2015 #6
+197 RiverLover Jan 2015 #7
I was told today on DU that NAFTA worked great for American workers. That made no sense to me sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #9
This isn't right, it's unfair, messed up & many Americans don't know about it b/c of corp. Media. appalachiablue Feb 2015 #12
+1000 woo me with science Jan 2015 #10
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2015 #5
Pretty speaches are just speaches. 99Forever Jan 2015 #8
K & R AzDar Jan 2015 #11

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
4. Middle class jobs speak while calling for TPP fast track. More community college training
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 10:36 PM
Jan 2015

for what? STEM education focus during current bipartisan support to continue the H-1B Visa program to import and offshore tech jobs (DU post on this now). None of it makes sense, for US workers that is.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
7. +197
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:05 PM
Jan 2015

My employer sent 197 IT jobs to India. We tried their PC support over the phone & no one could understand their "English" so we had to switch to a software program allowing us to type to each other real time.

I feel so bad for the great team we had prior, Americans, who took IT in college thinking they were making a sound life decision & they'd be employed for life.

grrr

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
9. I was told today on DU that NAFTA worked great for American workers. That made no sense to me
Wed Jan 21, 2015, 11:23 PM
Jan 2015

as I know people in the IT field who graduated from college in the '90s and were offered great salaries to work for big corporations. Then, suddenly, they were ordered to train cheaper labor who would be taking their jobs.

One person I know chose to not accept the big corporate offers when he graduated and chose instead to work for a small firm. He still has HIS job and thanks the gods that he wasn't tempted to accept those offers.

Hightower calls the TPP 'A Corporate Cout D'Etat' and others are calling it 'NAFTA on Steroids'.

Placating voters with talk of educations (for what?) etc doesn't diminish the gravity of what this president is about to do unless someone can stop it.

appalachiablue

(41,127 posts)
12. This isn't right, it's unfair, messed up & many Americans don't know about it b/c of corp. Media.
Mon Feb 2, 2015, 06:51 PM
Feb 2015

I've only seen 5-10 computer people ever discuss that they were let go & had to train replacements, on (anonymous) message boards, radio call in programs & one in a documentary, 'The Heist' (2011) formerly employed by HP who didn't give his name. I wonder if some terminated workers had to sign non disclosure agreements not to talk, like in divorce & other settlement cases, or they feared mentioning it would hurt future employment.
What a shaft for US computer majors in the 90s & bonanza for Redmond & Silicon Valley. And what about student debt for education loans, unreal. A recent OP had a commenter who went into details about new ongoing visa arrangements for imported tech workers to keep up the steady supply of cheaper foreign labor. It involved FB I'm almost certain, forgot to bookmark, can't find it. Sorry to hear about what happened but glad you told it.

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