Another Woman Accuses Cosby of Rape... Huff Post, Cindra Ladd, "Trust Me"..1969

[Stuart G]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cindra-ladd/bill-cosby-trust-me_b_6526064.html

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Cindra Ladd,
"Trust Me"


In 1969 I met Bill Cosby while working in New York for the late film producer Ray Stark. I was a 21-year-old single woman in the world's most exciting city. He was a 32-year-old internationally known comedian and television star, one of the most likeable and popular entertainers in the business. He asked for my number and I gave it to him.

We began hanging out, took in a movie, watched television and ate pizza and hot dogs in my apartment with my roommate. He was married to his current wife and he acted like a perfect gentleman who didn't come on to either of us, which, I have to admit, made me wonder what his objective was.

One night we were going out to a movie. We agreed to meet at an apartment that he said belonged to a friend of his. I had a terrible headache but didn't want to cancel the evening. He told me he had a miracle cure his doctor had given him that would get rid of the headache. He went into another room and came back with a capsule. I asked a couple of times what it was. Each time he reassured me, asking, "Don't you trust me?" Of course I did. This was Bill Cosby.

For more than 45 years I have tried to recall exactly what happened that night. To this day it remains a blur. I have a vague recollection of feeling like I was floating while walking through Times Square and watching some kind of Japanese samurai movie with him. I don't remember where the theater was nor very much of the evening.

What I do recall, vividly and clearly, is waking up the next morning nude in the bed of his friend's apartment and seeing Cosby wearing a white terrycloth bathrobe and acting as if there was nothing unusual. It was obvious to me that he had had sex with me. I was horrified, embarrassed and ashamed. There was a mirror above the bed, which shocked me further.
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Toward the end she states.........
"This is the first time I have chosen to speak out about that night. It is also the last time I intend to address it publicly. I have no plans to sue, I don't want or need money. I have no plans for a press conference or for doing any interviews...............
So why speak out at all and why now? The simple answer is that it's the right thing to do. The truth deserves to be known....."Those who suffer from these types of assaults know the prison of shame, bewilderment and disbelief..."
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then ...more is stated....why it wasn't reported, how she felt, and so on...short read , if you are interested. This woman has lots of money, and no real reason for a big lie...another addition to this incredible story.

[uppityperson]

1. k&r. It was a different time, when you didn't speak out when this happened. Good for her now, hope

she is able to put it more aside, though never all the way away.

[samsingh]

2. she seems very credible and doesn't need anything from coming out

[LittleBlue]

3. There are too many accusers to reasonably believe he's innocent

God damn, what a sick f***

[Nye Bevan]

4. Frankly, at this point a more unbelievable story would be a woman saying

that she had dinner with Cosby and that he did not attempt to drug and rape her.

[Stuart G]

7. So many of these stories are similar.

I wonder how many have not been reported by women who still feel shame and guilt even though others have told their stories. This woman has no reason to lie. None. I fell so weird about this man, who so many respected, and he appears to be a serial rapist. So arrogant that he was sure he could get away with what he did. From 69 through 2004 clear believable stories. ..and he did get away with this. until recently. Weird Strange..

[Nye Bevan]

8. Many, many women saying to themselves "it wasn't just me!"

I also wonder how many more have not yet come forward.

[woolldog]

84. I don't get it

Why did Cosby feel like he needed to drug women to get laid?

[Blue_Tires]

5. Of course the obvious question is why didn't she come forward sooner?

Since there are obviously hundreds, if not a thousand more women, has it never occurred to any of them that had the come forward earlier, they might have been saving future victims??

And that's all I'll say on this....

[avaistheone1]

12. It's simple.

It is estimated by the Department of Justice that 60% of rape and sexual assault cases go unreported due to shame, fear of reprisal, loss of privacy, stigmatization, insensitivity of law enforcement, and victim-blaming. A loss of public anonymity would increase that number. Research also shows that those with a pattern of committing or attempting to commit rape will continue to do so until prosecuted and jailed, a daunting task given statistics indicate that overall prosecution rates for rape are among the lowest for any criminal offense, and that only one out of 16 rapists will be incarcerated.

Here are some cases in point:

Victim Blaming: An All-Too-Common Response to Sexual Assault
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hayley-rose-horzepa/victim-blaming_b_847310.html


Why Didn't Ariel Castro's Victims Run Away? It's Simple
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jincey-lumpkin/why-didnt-ariel-castros-victims-run-away-its-simple_b_3242568.html


Joan Collins on rape age 17: Actress says she was 'stupid' to marry man who attacked her
“I, myself at the age of 17, felt so guilty, so responsible and I thought ‘this is my fault’... and of course I was drugged."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/joan-collins-rape-age-17-4814819

[Hekate]

31. "I thought I was the only one" "Who will believe me?" "My career will be ruined" and finally...

"It must have been my fault."

Ask any child who has been molested; ask any woman who has ever been raped or the subject of unwanted pawing; ask any man who has suffered the same.

Society wants the victim to STFU and go away, and the victim is so ashamed they usually do.

[vankuria]

48. Society taught us to believe

a rapist is someone you don't know, lurking in the shadows, holding a knife up to our throats, etc. The fact that she was friends with Cosby, had seen him on another occasion and he did all the right things to gain her trust, I'm sure made this whole scenario incomprehensible for any woman to understand. I've tried to put myself into the situations of these women and I honestly don't know how I would react either and given Cosby's fame and power probably only made it that's much more complicated.

[JonLP24]

46. There is also a "who would believe me over Bill Cosby?" factor

What she describes is textbook sociopath behavior, that is why I feel it is not made up all. Especially, his reaction after she woke up. Probably screwed with her head a bit leading to the "who would believe..."

"For more than 45 years" is the part that especially moved me. Someone making this up would unlikely say that.

[Borchkins]

6. K&R

Who was the supplier of the pills???
B

[rtracey]

9. Heres the problem

Heres the problem, (as I see it), 1. statutes of limitations are up on these attacks, 2. Its now becoming a punch bag line, and the worst....3. Cosby can go on stage, make jokes about it, have whatever audience shows laugh at it, leave the theater shaking their heads at the women who is blaming him, and Cosby being richer then shit can really just say...thank you everybody ...good night and walk into the Malibu sunset, living the rest of his life on the beach somewhere giving the world and these women the finger.....ahhh to be a rich fucking celebrity in this world....

[GummyBearz]

27. What its like to be black and have white privilege...

Interesting case study for someone starting a master's thesis in a related field

[JonLP24]

45. Still doesn't mean she shouldn't tell her story

especially if it is true.

Whatever audience that would remain that would laugh at those jokes.. it appears not much can be done for those types.

[Starry Messenger]

10. There would be no reason to lie about it if the woman didn't have lots of money.

Being raped doesn't cover you with glory in this society.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

11. I bet there's one pain that gets to this guy--

thinking about his obituary.

[cwydro]

13. No doubt the guy is guilty

but I'm blown away by how many of these women took pills of which they knew nothing.

Never would I have done that in my younger years. Never.

[Stuart G]

15. These women "trusted" Bill Cosby.

Or, who they thought Cosby was. That "trust" was the real secret pill. That is why they took those pills. So, it turns out that Cosby is one of the biggest "con men" of all time. Still a con man..

[cwydro]

16. I would not even take a pill from my mother without looking it up.

I know there was no internet in those days.

Pills were offered to me as a young woman, by young men (and by other young women).

Some I trusted and some I did not. I would not take a pill I personally could not identify.

[sabrina 1]

17. Of course there is doubt. Allegations, all sounding the same, could be he is guilty, or copycat

allegations. Anyone can now jump on that bandwagon, note most of these women are white women, and simply repeat what they are reading in the news media.

Which is why we have a judicial system. Funny that no one is listening to his emphatic denials. And revealing frankly.

I like our court system. Too many people have been ruined based on mere allegations...

From such a long time ago, there are many questions as to why all this is surfacing now.

Juanita Broddrick comes to mind. And the others we demanded proof from back then.

Bring it to court.

Don't forget that Gore was also accused and many believed 'it must true'. Except it wasn't.

[dsc]

18. what denials

He has repeatedly when questioned about this refused to answer, that isn't denial.

[sabrina 1]

24. It is very wise of him as anyone knows who has found themselves the target of

tabloid allegations, not to respond, no doubt on the advice of his attorney.

I'm amazed at how little respect for the law and the reasons for those laws, there appears to be when all there is right now, is a whole lot of people, coming out of nowhere, we don't even know if many of these women ever even met him, jumping on what appears to be a bandwagon right now.

I'm also concerned about the almost all white ethnic makeup of the accusers.

I'm strange, I guess, I know WHY there is a judicial system in most civilized societies. Let's say, eg, that there is someone, or some entity that has a beef with Cosby.

We know from CIA leaked documents, that accusations of sexual assault, rather than the old preferred method of simply 'suiciding' someone, is the new 'weapon' to discredit and marginalize people.

Now Cosby is merely an entertainer, so hardly a target of the CIA. BUT, if THEY use this as a tool, anyone can.

Not saying that is the case, but there are many reasons why someone becomes a target of a smear campaign.

And we know NOTHING other than the almost incredible, as if the first two dozen wasn't enough, line of women 'coming forward', when it is perfectly safe to do being that there is no chance of these allegations being tested in a court of law.

[dsc]

26. that isn't what you wrote

Let me refresh your memory. You wrote "no one is listening to his loud denials". He hasn't denied a thing, which you now admit. As to your point about the ethnic make up of the women. Imagine if it were a white man accused of raping several black and a few white women and a white poster posted I'm also concerned about the almost all black ethnic makeup of the accusers. I am pretty certain that would be taken as racist claptrap and quite justifiably so. Oh, and he can test them in a court of law if he dares. He can sue them for defamation. You can't outright lie about even public figures. If this or any of these women are lying he can waltz himself into court and sue them. He isn't exactly breaking down the courthouse door now is he. This latest woman is worth millions.

[sabrina 1]

29. His attorney has bee adamant in denying all of these allegations. That's what you do when you are

accused, falsely which is his position. YOU if you have even half a brain, do not take the tabloid bait, you authorize your attorney to speak for you.

If the scenario was the one you just described, absent anything other mere allegations all sounding eerily like what we have read in the tabloids, my response would be 'show me the proof' as it is here.

[cwydro]

19. I think at least a few of them are copy cats.

I sure cannot call the guy guilty without seeing more evidence.

Seems like one came out and boom! they all did.

All seem like wanna be actors, and they saw him as a stepping stone.

Some things are not black and white...This is hugely gray.

[sabrina 1]

21. Thank you, I agree. Proivide evidence. Sue, ask for a waiver of the statute for crimnal

prosecution IF this is such a massive crime, which it would be if so many people were actually raped.

I would think there is some room now to ask for such a waiver and let's get out of the tabloids and into an arena where mere allegations won't suffice.

[cwydro]

22. If it is all a trumped up bunch of nonsense....

that is heartbreaking.

[sabrina 1]

25. Yes, either way it is heart breaking. But it seems to me if we are to believe all this actually

happened, the man is a threat to society. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know the answer to this. But I would be seeking a way to bring this to a criminal trial.

Once in that arena, THEN we can test the veracity of the accusers. Until then, it's all just gossip as far as I am concerned.

[CreekDog]

51. You agree? Then tell us which ones are copycats.

We anxiously await your list and reasons why you are calling each person you name a "copycat".

[sabrina 1]

53. I agree with our judicial system. Is that what you meant? What do you know about this? Are you an

attorney, a prosecutor who has looked at any evidence there may be? I have no idea what the evidence is. I have heard allegations, from decades ago. That is all I know.

So, in order to actually see whatever evidence there is, we have a thing called 'due process'. I like it. I'm not fond of trial by tabloid. How about you?

[CreekDog]

54. You said you think that some of the accusers are copycats, which ones?

It's not that complicated. If you doubt a story, tell us which story and which person you are doubting.

[sabrina 1]

55. No, that is not what I said. I wish people would be more accurate when they are relaying information

And that is a perfect example, btw, of why I prefer information to be presented in an atmosphere where accuracy is important. Such as a Court of Law where lying is a serious offense so we are more likely to get the truth there.

How could I state that they ARE copycats when I don't know a thing about any of them?? Please read the next part carefully:

What I said was, in response to someone who claimed 'there is no doubt' about any of this, that of course there is doubt.

Please read this carefully, I stated that eg, some of these women COULD BE copycats. Is that not a possibility at all in your mind?

See, if this was brought to court, we would learn whether they were or not, because attorneys on both sides would be working to establish the FACTS.

See how you, just now, totally misinterpreted what my point was? Now think of how YOUR interpretation might be even more enhanced by the next person who reads it?

This is why 'due process' is so necessary when someone is being accused of serious crimes.

I KNOW due process, once so revered at least on the Left, is not so popular here these days, but I am old fashioned, I guess.

I know nothing about this case. I do not know Cosby, do not know any of the women, do not know if any of them ever met each other, don't know if some of them are merely copy cats, or if all of them are telling the truth.

Until it gets off the Enquirer and Nancy Grace and into a court of law, the accused is innocent. So, work to get it into a court, why are people so against that?

I hope no one here who doesn't see the need for due process before conviction is never at the receiving end of allegations against them.

As I said, I'm not into tabloids, I like our system of due process. If that has become a crime on DU, well so be it.

[CreekDog]

56. No, when cwydro said they thought some were copycats

you said "I agree".

[sabrina 1]

57. And then followed it with 'provide evidence'. What I agreed with was that people DO think some of

them are copycats. Which is TRUE, is it not?

Which is why none of it means anything other than salacious gossip until it is presented in a court of law.

I notice you don't answer questions. Are you FOR conviction by tabloid? I can't tell from your comments. Other than you don't seem enthusiastic about providing an accused the right to due process. But feel free to correct me if I am misinterpreting you.

[CreekDog]

59. I haven't advocated for conviction by tabloid

In case you didn't notice, NOT calling some of the women liars is not the same as asking for Bill Cosby to be convicted by tabloid.

And by the way, for all your discussion of evidence, you don't seem to need any to decide that some of the accusers, you won't say which ones, are lying "copycats".

[bettyellen]

60. get it straight- it's a CIA-like conspiracy, which is also being copy catted, hee hee.

That's about the only laugh I have had so far reading about this. Ridiculous.

[sabrina 1]

62. Can you link to that? I hadn't heard that. Or are you referring to the outrageous, apparently,

notion that the accused has a right to 'due process' before conviction and the accusers, the right to present their evidence in a court of law?? Is that what is laughable to you? It isn't clear from your comment.

[bettyellen]

64. It's a hilarious conspiracy theory I read somewhere on this thread! You'll have to go look yourself!

Never commented on this "due process" issue, is Cosby charge with something? Nope it is just talk. Let him sue if he can prove slander.

The justice system sicks for rape victims, I am not sure why anyone would have ANY confidence in it. Particularly in cases where women have been drugged, they are shit out of luck. Back 25 years ago, any woman who drank privately with a man was blamed for everything that happened- including rape (unless she was beaten severely) roofies were not well known, and DNA identification did not exist. Things have not changed all that much. Some people seem fine with that, but I am not.

Are you happy they had slim to no chance ever prosecuting their rapist? Are you sad that speaking out is their only recourse? Please explain.

[sabrina 1]

61. You don't read comments, do you?

I haven't discussed any 'evidence' since there is none available that I have seen. Allegations are not evidence. Until they are proven in a court of law.

Could you post the evidence you have seen? Then we can discuss the evidence.

If you are not advocating 'conviction by tabloid', yet you believe in the guilt of the accused, what do you want to happen to Cosby?

I apologize, profoundly, for still believing that the accused has a right to a fair trial before conviction. And accusers have a right to present their evidence in a court of law.

I'm shocked that this is such an outrageous position to take. I thought we were the ones who were outraged over the abandonment of the Rule of Law for so long.

[CreekDog]

65. so you're saying you don't believe any accusers are "copycats" or are lying

if you're unwilling to say that Mr. Cosby is guilty of what he's been accused of without evidence, aren't you likewise unwilling to call any of the women liars and copycats (accusing them of libel or slander) without evidence?

but in reality, while lecturing us not to convict Mr. Cosby without evidence, you've called "some" of the women (you won't say which ones) copycats and accused them of libel and/or slander without any evidence, without even knowing which woman you're tagging with that accusation.

oh do be consistent.

[sabrina 1]

66. I'll try to be as clear as possible, once again

You can bet all you have on the fact that 'I do not know whether or not Cosby is guilty'.

While you are attempting to lecture me on the benefits of not needing evidence to convict someone without a fair trial,in the tabloids, you are certain that there is no possibility, not even a tiny chance, that any of the women might not be telling the truth.

But you are certain. Yet cannot explain how you can be so certain, of the guilt of Cosby.

So I ask again, since you are certain this man is a serial rapist, which means he remains a threat to women, unless you don't care about that of course, then WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN TO HIM, other than continuing to relish in the salacious accusations, which is certainly something a lot of people will pay money for.

So, again, based on your belief the man is a threat to women now that you know he is guilty of all the charges, what do you want to happen to him?

IF I were as certain as you are, I would want him in jail, away from the opportunity of creating more victims.

But you refuse to answer that question. WHY?

[CreekDog]

68. I'm not as certain of his guilt

as you are certain that some of his accusers are lying.

[sabrina 1]

73. That comment would make sense if you were not trying to speak FOR me. I, in case you never noticed

am very capable of speaking for myself. But women often experience this kind of thing. Some guy decides: 'I'll speak for her, she is after all, just a female'.

I am as uncertain of all the women's veracity as I am of Cosby's guilt, (that is actually MY position, but don't let it bother you, you appear to be accustomed to speaking for women as you do it so naturally) being none of it has been tested outside the tabloid press.

[Stuart G]

69. He will not create more victims..

That is done..and over..

Since this is past the date when people can accuse, those raped can do nothing. too late to report, and reasons why they did not report are well established. My guess is if the statue of limitations could be expanded to say 25 years, Cosby would be in one incredible situation facing several trials at once..

[sabrina 1]

72. Serial rapists do not stop, unless they are stopped.

So I disagree that there will be no more victims IF he is what is being portrayed. Which is why I asked whether, given the seriousness of the allegations, the statute can be expanded for the safety of the public.

Believing he is guilty of such egregious and serial crimes, demands that there be some legal way to stop him.

[bettyellen]

71. actually the women coming forward helps potential victims avoid Cosby....

he certainly won't be giving out headache cures like candy anymore- and that is a good thing.
Sometimes, that is all can be done- warning others.

Are you the only one who thinks the justice system would actually put Cosby away if only the victims came forward- then or now? Seems so. That is some misplaced faith in the system- to be sure.

[CreekDog]

74. Since this topic seems to be bringing up gender inequality issues

May I ask if your screenname, Sabrina, means that you are female?

[sabrina 1]

76. Lol, nice try!

[sabrina 1]

81. Not being aware of all these shenanigans, it wouldn't occur to me that anyone would work that hard

just to deceive anonymous people on the internet. Don't they have lives?

I am a woman as most people here know. I have met and talked on the phone to many DUers so there really isn't any doubt. It's certainly the first time anyone has ever asked that question.

How do you know that there are men here posing as women?

Do you think eg, that all women share the same views on Feminism? Because they do not, far from it.

DU's representation of the subject is certainly not representative of the majority of women.

Which is why most women on DU do not participate much in the women's forums.

If your perception of Feminism comes from this forum, it explains a lot about our previous conversation.

[Stuart G]

67. I would add, there is doubt to some stories..

But in my opinion, not a court of law, the overwhelming evidence presented, which would be presented in a court of law, by many of these accusers, (if there could be such a court) is that he is guilty. We have heard from someone who stood outside the door while Cosby was.."busy"..and many other very strong stories that are totally believable ..No, he hasn't been convicted, and probably never will be. and he knows it, and is arrogant about it.

...So is the last president of the United States...arrogant, not convicted but in my opinion, guilty.

Cosby has gotten away with this for 35 years...he will get away with this some more. But we can believe, what we want. If there were not a limit on the time that one can accuse, then Cosby might be in line for a trial right now. That is the foundation of his arrogance. And he knows it.

[sabrina 1]

70. Everyone has a right to an opinion. In mine, if someone is the monster and threat to women, that

Cosby is being portrayed as, then there must be criminal legal consequences. That can only happen in a court of law.

Anyone who actually cares about women, would want that.

It is not enough to just keep on 'talking' or 'believing' about something that is allegedly as serious as this, certainly to any future victims.

So, since I know none of these people, I do not know whether or not he is actually guilty, but if I were as certain as some people appear to be, I would be working to get him arrested, not chit chatting on the internet about it.

[LanternWaste]

75. Some people's opinion is that 2+2=7. And they certainly have a right to that opinion...

"Everyone has a right to an opinion..."

Some people's opinion is that 2+2=7. And they most certainly have a right to that opinion as you have to yours-- regardless of its irrelevancy.

[sabrina 1]

77. Sure, my opinion is that crimes should be prosecuted, not gossiped about. I think that translates

into 2+2=4

[braddy]

30. Constand, drugged and raped in 2004, police report 2005, and Cosby settling out of court with her

in 2006, after she brought forth 13 more Jane Does, was the director of operations for Temple University's women's basketball team, Cosby's old college that he was on the board of.

This is not all of a sudden, it just finally has broken loose, his media power, 400 million dollars, and the team of lawyers that he has always used to handle his sex life, kept this out of most of the media for many years.

[Lex]

34. Or he could be a goddamn serial rapist.

Because women were afraid to step forward and accuse a television ICON until a few brave ones did and they felt safer to do so. That's why.

"I sure cannot call the guy guilty without seeing more evidence." Good God.

[Gormy Cuss]

35. Are, or could be, copy cats?

"Are " is pretty definitive. As for one coming out and they all did, it's fairly typical for victims. I can't tell you how many times I've witnessed one victim pointing the finger and that act gave others the courage to speak up.

[cwydro]

43. I certainly agree that this is possible.

I just don't know.

But, it seems to be one of those "if there is smoke there must be fire" things.

Sadly, I think some of these allegations are true. I also think some are not.

I find it heartbreaking. On every level.

[CreekDog]

52. could you be a copycat of the the other poster who said it first?

Last edited Wed Jan 28, 2015, 09:01 AM - Edit history (1)

is this post of yours really sincere or are you just copying what sabrina1 said?

see how that works?

probably not.

[CreekDog]

50. Alright, which ones are copycats?

we'll await your answer.

[Hekate]

58. Fascinating subthread. I feel like I've just had a swim in a river in Egypt.

I was really slow to call the man guilty, but I hit critical mass a couple of dozen accusers back. I don't think any of Cosby's victims are copycats; I think what we are seeing is Cosby's pattern of behavior -- a very very successful pattern of behavior that worked for him quite well his entire adult life.

Dammit. I liked the persona -- having had a less than optimal father myself, I really wanted Dr Huxtable to be my Dad, if only for an hour a week. But there are limits to my willing suspension of disbelief (as the old saw about theater goes), and he has far exceeded those limits.

Apparently others are still believing the show....

[oberliner]

14. Amazing how many of these horrible crimes he appears to have gotten away with over the years

Also makes one wonder who else besides Bill Cosby was doing this sort of thing during that period.

[cwydro]

20. Plenty, I'm sure.

I'm not a Hollywood person...but back in the 70's I do remember pills being offered.

My mother taught me as a young'un NEVER take anything if you don't know what it is.

Even back in her day, women were offered pills to knock them out. She told some stories of her university days in Wales in the 40's. Never forgot those.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

23. There's a scary thought...

There's certainly never been a shortage of Hollywood creeps with that same sense of entitlement.

[braddy]

32. How many like this? Cosby appears to be a lifelong, serial rapist covering 5 decades.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

28. Look up Operation Yew Tree.

The answer is "a lot of people".

[loyalsister]

80. No doubt!

It was a time when date rape was unheard of and "no could mean yes" according to general consensus. The conventional understanding of rape shifted dramatically in the late 80s and 90s.
At the time, I bet many of those women did not even consider rape to be a word that would describe what happened to them.

[Beringia]

33. another one

If any of his Huxtable family were to say something, that would be huge. I read he had an assistant "guard his door", so certainly other people noticed these young women coming and going.

[HipChick]

36. Strange...what's the deal with the bathrobe all the time..

[Hekate]

41. He wants the victims to notice he's naked, relaxed, in no hurry to dress...

....all this while they are awakening from a drugged state, naked in bed, wondering what the hell just happened and why can't they remember it. Apparently no attempt at concealment on his part, as there might have been if he got dressed before they came to and then fed them some bullshit line about how they inexplicably passed out and he took care of them like the nice father figure he pretended to be.

Can you imagine the sheer sense of POWER that behavior gave him?

[JonLP24]

47. Exactly

That is why I mentioned up-thread what she describes is textbook sociopath behavior and those that are interested into that sort of thing Bill Cosby is or anything similar, they often choose positions of power over them & where victims are less likely to be believed. There are also tricks they use to establish that sort of power over victim.

On edit - This is the first victim story I've read. It was like an information overload which was I avoided it (JFK is like that on a much larger scale so I never really tried to wade through this or that) but for some reason "trust me" drew me to this one.

[Initech]

49. One of the craziest revelations about Cosby that I heard. ..

There was a guy who was a staff member of the Late Show and when Letterman had Cosby on, this guy would get paid by Cosby to stand guard outside his dressing room. Inside the dressing room, he would have all the female Late Show staff sit inside his room, they weren't allowed to say anything, they just sat there and watched while he ate curry. Can you imagine what a bizarre scene that must have been?

[MrMickeysMom]

37. Well, I hope this closes it for him at the Pittsburgh show...

They're "waiting" to see if he'll draw an audience before canceling at the Benedum.

[Initech]

38. Stick a fork in him, he's done.

[Sugarcoated]

40. Yep, his reputation is destroyed

What a creep!

[Hekate]

42. The guy that now follows Jon Stewart took Cosby to pieces ....

....on his second or third show. Name of Larry Wilmer, I think, and is African American himself. Just shredded him. Now his panel of guests were not all in accord, but I think it's indicative of a trend.

Cosby is being tried in the court of public opinion because he managed to buy his way out of an indictment in the past, and is unlikely to be tried in a court of law at this stage. These woman aren't copy cats as some here have suggested; they really have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by coming forward with their stories to support those who have already spoken out.

As to why the silence for so many for so long -- many women at DU have testified to how and why we maintained silence after being molested or raped. I don't need to repeat it, just point out that doubters should look it up.

Stick a fork in him, is right.

[Initech]

44. Yeah I saw that.

What an awesome debut for Larry Willmore. That was quite the epic take down of a guy we all thought we knew.

[oberliner]

82. He is still performing to supportive audiences

Not quite done yet it seems sadly.

[Frank Cannon]

83. The audiences are dwindling, fortunately.

I saw a picture recently, and it didn't look like there were more than a few dozen people in the audience. Cosby used to sell out shows regularly.

In a few more months, he'll be appearing at an Elk's Lodge "cafetorium" near you. Right after the puppet show.

[Sugarcoated]

39. Thank God, finally, the believers of these victims

are outweighing the apologists who enable these monsters to continue to rape.