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cal04

(41,505 posts)
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:38 PM Jan 2015

Gay Alabama Lawmaker Threatens To Expose Colleagues' Marital Infidelity

Alabama's only openly gay legislator is putting her anti-gay colleagues on notice: If they keep espousing family values rhetoric as a reason to oppose marriage equality, she'll start making their marital infidelities public.

"I will not stand by and allow legislators to talk about 'family values' when they have affairs, and I know of many who are and have," wrote state Rep. Patricia Todd (D) on Facebook over the weekend, as reported by the TimesDaily in Alabama. "I will call our elected officials who want to hide in the closet out."

Todd's post came after a federal judge ruled Friday that Alabama's ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional. She told The Huffington Post that she decided to issue her threat after reading some of the anti-gay rhetoric coming from certain elected officials in the state.

"If certain people come out and start espousing this rhetoric about family values, then I will say, 'Let's talk about family values, because here's what I heard.' I don't have direct knowledge, because obviously I'm not the other person involved in the affair. But one thing you would never hear about me is that I ever cheated on a partner or had an affair," said Todd.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/01/26/patricia-todd_n_6549024.html?1422304283

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Lancero

(3,003 posts)
1. Blackmail pretty much.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:41 PM
Jan 2015

While I agree that some people are full of shit, the response to them shouldn't be to become full of shit yourself.

Then again, you don't have direct knowledge - Proof in otherwords - just rumors. So scare tactic perhaps?

Either way, it's a disgrace to see a Democrat resorting to such tactics.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
5. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:51 PM
Jan 2015

Their actions, if true - Because remember, she admitted that she doesn't actually have proof to her claims - are wrong.

Blackmail is wrong as well.



still_one

(92,134 posts)
4. They are public officials, and if their positions are family values there
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:48 PM
Jan 2015

Behavior certainly is free game

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
6. I agree that the information should be free game.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:55 PM
Jan 2015

But at the same time, blackmail IS a crime.

If she has information about it, why doesn't she reveal it to the public - as she should since they are making family values their public position - instead of trying to blackmail them?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
11. No, she says if they start in with fakery and bullshit she will call it what it is.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jan 2015

How is that blackmail? She's saying stop the affectation of a holiness that is not your own. I think every hypocrite should be told that. 'If you keep bullshitting, I'll start speaking the truth, so don't bullshit'.

Blackmail : the action, treated as a criminal offense, of demanding money from a person in return for not revealing compromising or injurious information about that person.

Not Blackmail: saying if you trash me for being gay I will shine the spotlight on your truth.


I've been thinking much about this sort of thing of late. Hypocrites should be exposed as such. Instantly.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
14. Differing definitions, but I agree with you on that
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:23 PM
Jan 2015

They should be exposed instantly - So why is she refusing to reveal her information?

I used blackmail though as a synonym of Extortion. So I admit that I was going off of a broader definition for it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
3. I'd like to see her do this... an obvious and unarguable expose of family-values hypocrites
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 04:46 PM
Jan 2015

I'd like to see her do this... an obvious and unarguable expose of family-values hypocrites would certainly allow the public to see, without the ambiguity of the ever-certain rationalization by the hypocrites, if their representatives espouse ideals due to actual conviction, or (and I find this more likely) simple political expediency... something even Joe Beer-Guzzler doesn't enjoy entertaining...

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
9. The reason some straights are so opposed to out LGBT people is that they, the straights are in their
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:12 PM
Jan 2015

own closets and like it that way. They like the facade of suburban perfection as cover for their own sex lives. If the gays are honest, they might have to be honest too.
So I support what she's doing. Entirely.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
12. I'd say she is morally within her rights. "People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks."
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:19 PM
Jan 2015

That's an old one...from way back, but still true today.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
16. Blackmailing lawmakers, even in a good cause, is very wrong indeed.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 05:45 PM
Jan 2015

To speak up unconditionally and expose their hypocrisy would be fine.

To keep quiet unconditionally and respect their privacy would be fine.

To say "I will expose their affairs if they do not do what I want, but will not do so if they do" is very serious wrongdoing indeed. I don't know if it's technically criminal, or if some equivalent of parliamentary privilege applies, but it's absolutely appalling and should be strongly condemned.

 

Bigmack

(8,020 posts)
17. Blackmail..? I don't think so.
Mon Jan 26, 2015, 06:43 PM
Jan 2015

The Marine Corps may not be the best guide to behavior, but they had/have and expression....

"So you wanna play fuck-fuck, eh?... well, let's play fuck-fuck then."

Translated from the grunt: You harm or threaten me, and I'll do the same, only more so.

I think she's entitled to piss in their corn flakes all she wants.

Politics is a full-contact sport.

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