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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBen Carson: Gay Couples ‘Not That Smart’ Because Loving Christian Bakers Might Poison Wedding Cakes
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/01/26/ben-carson-gay-couples-not-that-smart-because-loving-christian-bakers-might-poison-wedding-cakes-video/For most of the seven minutes, Carson railed against LGBT individuals demand for equal rights. Carson told members of the media that a few judges have overthrown the will of the people in 32 states where it was decided that marriage is between a man and a woman....
If two adults want to be together, Carson said, Im not going to stop them from being together. Carson suggested that equal marriage rights are not necessary because two people can take the very expensive route of setting up a legal contract so they can share property and have visitation rights or otherwise experience some benefits of marriage.
Carson says he does have a problem with good, pure, sweet, innocent Christian bakers being forced to make cakes for LGBT couples. In fact, those loving Christians might get so mad that they poison the cake, according to a man who wants to be President:
Well, someone's not that smart, and I don't think it's the gay couples.
avebury
(10,951 posts)for the commission of a criminal act. Now who is the idiot here?
NoJusticeNoPeace
(5,018 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)"Be a shame if something were to happen to it..."
What a creep.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Which in this case is sick.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Does not speak well for his idea of a Christian.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Good point
Trillo
(9,154 posts)How is it any different from police who want an app censored because it may lead to the killing of cops?
I suppose the cops are interested in self preservation, while suggesting that folks may use the app to kill cops. Carson is implanting the suggestion that baker's poison gay couple's cakes. So it would be more similar if Ben Carson is gay. Maybe he's more afraid and expressing self-preservational fear than advocating others commit a crime?
Is Ben Carson outing himself?
olddots
(10,237 posts)IdiotsforPalin
(169 posts)as Palin holding up an FU sign to Michael Moore.......well played clowns
KT2000
(20,568 posts)He really sounds like he has mental issues. I guess it is good he is no longer operating on children because his hatred is expanding daily. Would a Christian surgeon "make a mistake" while operating on a child he knew to be gay because he was "forced" to treat him/her?
Orsino
(37,428 posts)Weak characters are even more pliable.
Blue Owl
(50,270 posts)Say Ben, where'd you come up with that little idea?
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Probably doesn't believe in racism I don't know much about him except everywhere I go I see old white people only reading his book. Enough people that I can guess he is rich
Being mad at someone is a good reason for attempted murder!
NickB79
(19,224 posts)BlueStater
(7,596 posts)I know he's some sort of doctor but, seriously, where did he come from and what exactly is so notable about him that the press covers all the stupid shit coming out of his mouth?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)nt
lunasun
(21,646 posts)BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)lunasun
(21,646 posts)Samuel L. Jackson was the one mistaken for Lawrence Fishburne
http://time.com/3340330/morgan-freeman-samuel-l-jackson-television-entertainment/
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)He yapped about running for POTUS, and so did some right wingers.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)Guess he knows a gravy train when he sees one. Become a candidate sell books earn some PAC coin too
He is not going anywhere withem other than in the clown car that will push his party to Bush he dislikes insurance co.s per Wiki and is a yes on affirmative action
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Carson
DebJ
(7,699 posts)As in, a partial lobotomy. But he removed his soul instead.
He's a completely looney, right wing butt brain.
i'm sure he will have our jaws dropping during the debates.
DebJ
(7,699 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)- Great surgeon. But that's where it ends. He should operate and STFU......
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)'Uncle Ruckus' or 'that crazy Uncle Pat' as Rachel Maddow used to call racist bigot Pat Buchanan when he was her constant guest.
Someone who spoke like that about another minority group would not get that 'aw shucks we love him in spite of his old fashioned ways' shit. Not ever. Yet for the raging anti gay crusaders, there are excuses and modifiers and nicknames.....
Panich52
(5,829 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)soften their verbiage about hate mongering anti gay bigots by using charming nicknames for them. Uncle Ruckus is a comic character, from the funny papers. Carson is a politically active hate monger. Not a comic book funny guy.
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)"Yeah yeah, he's said nasty, horrific things about gays, and he's a misogynist... but HE KISSED A BABY...and he drives an OLD CAR *swoon*"
dissentient
(861 posts)like there isn't a simple solution for them, and it doesn't involve anything criminal. Just do a really crappy job on their cakes! Then word of mouth will ensure they lose that portion of their business, if they really don't want that business in the first place (which seems nonsensical to turn down business, but whatever)
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)christopukes love the christian virtue of hate. Cleaning the world for jeeezus, one mass homicide at a time? What a hard-on.
City Lights
(25,171 posts)SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)napkinz
(17,199 posts)Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Let the primaries begin!
Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)intelligent man. As a doctor he excelled in the highly specialized (and very chellenging) field of pediatric neurological surgery, being the first doctor in the U.S,. to separate twins conjoined at the head. All that intelligence, however seems to be compartmentalized and he suffers from an ill which seems to affect many physicians who believe themselves to be as superior in all areas as they are in medicine. Regarding politics he seems to bear a close resemblance to Herman Cain, being the new Uncle Ruckus for the Republicans longing to have a black man spouting their hateful rhetoric.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)sewn up for more than twenty years.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)is that he is a devout Seventh Day Adventist. Hence his belief that the earth is only 6000 years old, that the Rapture is real and coming, and that Barney Rubble rode to work on a dinosaur.
He is obviously a brilliant surgeon. From what I have read he did wonderful things for kids. It's just a shame that all that intelligence was subsumed by a religious belief that went to strange places.
No offense to anybody here who is an Adventist - just not a believer.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)I have no doubt that he attained a high degree of knowledge and proficiency as a surgeon. I think as of the time he retired and probably now, he still retains the knowledge of how to perform in that profession.
But I also believe his mind ceased to be able to take in and evaluate new information of any kind of sophistication at least 10 years ago. I doubt he would be able to complete a graduate program of any kind at this point.
randome
(34,845 posts)Didn't he lose his medical license recently? Now he can have a healthy niche business to fill the void.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]The truth doesnt always set you free.
Sometimes it builds a bigger cage around the one youre already in.[/center][/font][hr]
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Princess Sparklemoose.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)I know Mitt 'is that store bought?' Romney must have food tasters but didn't think Carson was in that league.
tanyev
(42,520 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Which btw is part of the only old testament laws that Jesus actually mentioned we should obey. Ironically Jesus never said anything about Leviticus 20:13
pansypoo53219
(20,955 posts)Cha
(296,853 posts)say.. but just how damn dumb is he?
Rhinodawg
(2,219 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts)... this guy believes there is a pie shop in the sky, he's a fucking moron.
iandhr
(6,852 posts)UTUSN
(70,649 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)I'm just sayin'.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)An electron microscope?
ChosenUnWisely
(588 posts)clowns, that is why they are so popular with the base.
Don't be surprised to see on the news soon that some 'christian' baker or caterer poisons the food of a gay wedding and the base will approve and be so proud of that person too.
Hate is what motivates the GOP and their supporters.
Herself
(185 posts)LGBT people get the cakes made, but that doesn't make them stupid enough to eat them.
Didn't you see the movie "the help"
C'mon folks, LGBT didnt' get this far because of lack of intelligence.
Skittles
(153,113 posts)how a member of a historically oppressed group can so easily oppress others
seems like he is OK with gay folk getting on the bus as long as they stay in the back
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Bossy Monkey
(15,863 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)What an insane idea.
Good grief.
Gay couples may be able to find a baker who is not a fundie nut, Ben, you idiot.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)It pains me to know that he's still breathing.
TheSarcastinator
(854 posts)He wants people to do this. It is very clear to me that this incitement to murder.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)That about sums up religion for me. Thanks Ben
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)Growing up, never heard the commandment to poison people with whom I disagree.
If Christians are out there poisoning people, then Christianity is a violent, brutal faith and no decent, rational person should want any part of it.
7th day adventists around here are fond of the rapture. They've been ready for years. Any minute now....
They are decent, helpful neighbors, keep their places tidy, and they always adopt an ever-so-slight condescension as their primary expression and affect. They are better than you are. By a long shot.
But I noticed something that troubled me. Loving neighbors and residents of Planet Earth plant flowers for their neighbors and for the bees and the butterflies.
Self-preserving people couldn't care less about pollinators or anyone's view. They hide in the woods and make sure they have smooth driveways and that nature is blown to smithereens if it encroaches on their bunkers.
The draw of their form of Christianity are the constant affirmations that they are superior people, that they are wiser than everyone else, and that they are gonna show us we were wrong any day now, by golly.
They are very devoted and invested in being "right." So "right," they will poison you for your own good. Just like they poison their children's minds by insisting on telling them that they have no future, that the rapture is imminent and is far more important to consider than planning a good life. I cant imagine being told as a child that the world is about to come to an end.
Having said that: Believe what you wish. Just don't come around asking me to buy it. If you don't worry about the suffering of people where you live right here, right now; and you don't care about bees or birds, you are just not that wise. And I doubt even your god is impressed.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)A true Christian wouldn't think to poison anyone. This guy is a clown.
ProfessorGAC
(64,854 posts)There are several circuit paths to nowhere in this guy's head.
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)anyone but himself. I wonder does he go to bakeries???
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)0rganism
(23,930 posts)on the other hand, he messes with the racist republicans by inserting into their thoughts of racial purity and colored parasitism a black man who's a successful wackadoo conservative. the only way he could be better therapy for them is if he were a female candidate.
let the healing begin.
americannightmare
(322 posts)perhaps a distinction needs to be made between the ability to acquire very specific knowledge and the ability to think about anything else! This affliction is rampant in religious communities. Carson is an exception only in that he acquired very specific knowledge beyond the bible or believing in trickle-down economics or the ideology in conservatism. It's the difference between thinking and believing. Unfortunately, most Americans believe in believing in things (no alternative to capitalism, positive psychology, etc.) which makes it easy for someone like Carson to sell his book and spread his pernicious gospel.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I give him that.
Just wow. This guy is way out there. Please saw off the branch.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Initech
(100,040 posts)riversedge
(70,087 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Sure cause "loving Christians" go around poisoning anyone they don't agree with right Carson?
I think the bottom of the republican barrel has been reached with this batshit insane would be killer!
And that's sayin a lot! Throw this creep into the trunk of the republican clown car and lock the lid teabaggers!
onecaliberal
(32,780 posts)Surely he didn't just suggest some baker would poison cake because the people they baked it for are gay. Doesn't he just think they'd refuse to bake it in the first place rather than risk spending their life in prison for poisoning people.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Prescription drug abuse is far from unknown among doctors for this reason.
Rex
(65,616 posts)If only we lived in a country where there were lays against such rhetoric.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)It's called "incitement to commit a felony".
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)DallasNE
(7,402 posts)At least I have never associated poisoning people to being "loving".
mythology
(9,527 posts)Some of those same people who hate same sex marriage also hate abortion enough to kill abortion providers. And the anti-same sex marriage people are likely to become more desperate as they lose on the issue.
Granted that's not an argument against same sex marriage or against the intelligence of the same sex couple as (unfortunately) often you can't tell who's a blithering idiot just by looking at them. Fortunately many of those blithering idiots prove it when they speak, for example, Ben Carson.
OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)He saw how far Sarah Palin went by saying really, really stupid shit and he's decided to jump on the gravy train.
SunSeeker
(51,513 posts)nightscanner59
(802 posts)Frankly, I wouldn't mind if bigoted bakers were required to post "straight only" signs. Let them be up-front offensive rather than embarrass someone who comes to ask for a product to be turned away in shame.
Better yet to just look for the rainbow flag on the door.
Now the casual way this creep comes across with this notion tells me he's likely to have dozens more zingers like this to appeal only to the most radical of his base. That makes me relax a bit, even in the face of the Kock's poised to spend a billion on misleading ads in '16.
fbc
(1,668 posts)Ace Rothstein
(3,144 posts)Paladin
(28,243 posts)Honestly, think about somebody with this many open and obvious psychological problems, about to plunge a scalpel into your gray matter. No thank you.