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Looks like Big Ed should of kept his radio show he's not doing well in the ratings (Original Post) bigdarryl Jan 2015 OP
That's a bummer! His is the only MSNBC show I still watch Coventina Jan 2015 #1
I like Ed he was the first one on this Keystone pipeline bigdarryl Jan 2015 #2
Agreed. He actually did some investigative journalism on the ground. Coventina Jan 2015 #4
Agreed. 2naSalit Jan 2015 #15
When a man or woman shows me they have the capacity to change their beliefs madokie Jan 2015 #11
For years I've read and heard Liberals complaining that we don't have liberal shows and programming. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #3
The best explanation: Lib audiences have variety in "media universe" - music/non-political stuff UTUSN Jan 2015 #7
Meh, he was better on radio rjsquirrel Jan 2015 #5
He also has the weak time slot. people just leaving work, picking up kids, making dinner, etc. TheNutcracker Jan 2015 #6
+2! 2naSalit Jan 2015 #16
Cable TV in general is dying a slow, painful death. Frank Cannon Jan 2015 #8
There used to be - several years ago now - 2naSalit Jan 2015 #17
Since The Midterms I've Stopped Watching Cable News Altogether..... global1 Jan 2015 #9
Ditto to this, although I'm still watching The Daily and Nightly shows..... a kennedy Jan 2015 #14
Unfortunately, I think the time Lifelong Protester Jan 2015 #10
If you take all three 'cable news' channels and combine their ratings, they are still not doing well Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #12
I watch him because of all the shows on MSNBC in the evening he is the one I want to watch my jwirr Jan 2015 #13
Too bad rock Jan 2015 #18
 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
2. I like Ed he was the first one on this Keystone pipeline
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:36 AM
Jan 2015

And I respect him for changing his mind on it and admittedly said he was wrong

Coventina

(27,052 posts)
4. Agreed. He actually did some investigative journalism on the ground.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:39 AM
Jan 2015

And changed his mind based on the evidence he collected.

He's a real treasure, and grossly under-appreciated.

2naSalit

(86,308 posts)
15. Agreed.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:38 PM
Jan 2015

I watch him online at least three times a week. He relates to Main Street America and, as you mentioned, has the capacity to change his mind after seeking out the truth about an issue.

Hope he isn't booted for being real. I think some folks can't stand the truth at times. He did a segment on the dangers of "vaping" last night and the tweets that showed at the bottom of the screen were just ugly and stupid. Seems like he's being trolled lately.

At ;east he has the radio show and has partnered with Pappantonio and RawStory lately.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
11. When a man or woman shows me they have the capacity to change their beliefs
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jan 2015

based on discovering that what they thought they knew for sure was or is bullshit they have my utmost respect and admiration.
I love that in a person. I see it as being able to grow. I've been through many of those changes in my 66 almost 67 years.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. For years I've read and heard Liberals complaining that we don't have liberal shows and programming.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:38 AM
Jan 2015

For as long, I've read and heard RWers tell us that Liberals don't have their own shows and programming because there's no demand. Well, now we see how fickle Liberals are as opposed to RWers when it comes to shows and programming viewership. RWers support Fox "News" Channel while noted Liberals like Rachel Maddow and Ed Schultz on MSNBC can barely get any love. They need our support, DU! While there's plenty to gripe about them, we still need to WATCH. If they lose their shows due to low ratings, we have no one else to blame but ourselves.
So if we want more liberal and progressive shows, we need to give media execs a reason to create them, and we need to keep the few shows we have on television by supporting them with our viewership.
I was alarmed to read that The Rachel Maddow Show is suffering in ratings when she should be soaring. We finally get some programming for Liberals and all of a sudden they can't get any love!
Let's change that.

UTUSN

(70,641 posts)
7. The best explanation: Lib audiences have variety in "media universe" - music/non-political stuff
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:56 AM
Jan 2015

While wingnuts are narrow, rigid, stick to narrow-rigid venues.

But I'll say (unpopularly here) that, unlike the Faux Propaganda Network audience, I do not want to be told what I WANT TO HEAR. Frankly, it's more mental fun to patronize LIMBOsevic & O'LOOFAH to dissect the lies and techniques than to be lulled and soothed by compatible thoughts. And it's a matter of presentation talent: Ed is a loud blowhard. Rachel has an annoying voice and interminably tangled sentences. Lawrence is the best mouthpiece but boring.

Notice the difference between LIMBOsevic and HANNITY: I cannot take the rick-a-tick recitations of HANNITY, no mental challenge to pick apart his parroting of talking points. He's just a barrage.

 

rjsquirrel

(4,762 posts)
5. Meh, he was better on radio
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:41 AM
Jan 2015

It's nice to have the blue-collar ethos and perspective on TV, and Ed seems like a great guy personally, but the show, I have to say, is unwatchably boring most of the time, and like most cable opinion shows, just blah blah blah. You either have to be there for the personality of the host (and assume you share his/her ideology) or you are wasting time paying any attention to most of it. Not just Ed, but any show that isn't delivering news and critical analysis of that news, as it breaks, suffers from this.

But I have to say even Rachel has gone way, way downhill of late. The show has been, intentionally it seems, dumbed down and made more "entertaining." She repeats herself SO much, backtracking over every little contextual detail four times to make sure you know it, like she's a lecturer in a college class, which seems deliberately intended to keep the slow people from losing the thread. She teases upcoming stories way beyond their importance, and by the time they come you're like "whatever, enough already." And dumb bits are proliferating -- all the scenes in her office picking out junk to give away, the whole game show/cocktail hour bit, just expanded now to make every show have a moment of lameness. Not as bad as poor desperate Anderson Cooper's attempts, but where do they get the idea that their ratings depend on appealing to the dumbest, most personality-driven kinds of audiences?

You can smell the desperation at MSNBC, not unlike Air America in its declining days. Too bad. But luckily it's because cable TV as a whole is on the brink of a precipice and will be gone way sooner than most people imagine. Young people don't watch TV, and certainly not TV news. My teenage kids don't care about the TV. It's never even on. They're lost in their online lives.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
6. He also has the weak time slot. people just leaving work, picking up kids, making dinner, etc.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:42 AM
Jan 2015

I always thought that was on purpose. Switch him and Mathews.....and you'll see Ed do better.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
8. Cable TV in general is dying a slow, painful death.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:58 AM
Jan 2015

In my opinion, it's well-deserved.

People--especially liberals--are pursuing faster, cheaper "on demand" options for their news and entertainment. Fewer are wanting to pay upwards of 60 bucks a month for an hour of Rachel Maddow and 23 other hours a day of pharmaceutical ads and reality shows that mostly celebrate dumb people doing dumb things.

Listened to AM radio lately? It's a complete wasteland, occupied almost SOLELY by right-wing or sports talk and the histrionics of religious nuts. That's cable TV in about 10 years, after Fox News' key demographic--mostly adults in diapers--finally dies off.

2naSalit

(86,308 posts)
17. There used to be - several years ago now -
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:45 PM
Jan 2015

a really cool FM radio station in the next state over that had great music and very little obligatory biased news but the mormons bought it out and turned it into yet another hannity outlet, non-stop. That's all there is in eastern Idaho for radio, fuxnoose and church, even on the college NPR stations in the area. Totally sucks. And if you can't afford cable, well... at least there's the Internet.

global1

(25,219 posts)
9. Since The Midterms I've Stopped Watching Cable News Altogether.....
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 10:59 AM
Jan 2015

I just can't stomach listening to all the stupid things the Repugs are doing, are going to do or have done. It just makes me sick. So I've decided to not watch cable news altogether. I've become a big fan of the History Channel and one of my favorite shows on cable is TruTV's Impractical Jokers - it makes me laugh and keeps me in a good mood.

a kennedy

(29,606 posts)
14. Ditto to this, although I'm still watching The Daily and Nightly shows.....
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:33 AM
Jan 2015

I miss Stephen Colbert terribly though. But I don't watch ANY talking head shows since the election. Ugh......

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
12. If you take all three 'cable news' channels and combine their ratings, they are still not doing well
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:10 AM
Jan 2015

There is no such thing as actual 'good ratings' in cable news, just ratings that are better relative to other shitty cable news ratings.
Fox News, top of the cable heap. Tiny, niche audience. Most Americans who watch TV news watch Network News programs. The light morning shows on Network get audiences vastly larger than cable morning shows, all three. The evening news hours, the lowest rated broadcast network easily doubles Fox News audience and then there are two more, each with even higher ratings. So while over 20 million are tuned to the networks, maybe 3 million are watching FoxNews. Maybe.
And yet on DU we hear that America gets all its news from FoxNews, that Fox is Number One, Republicans are loyally glued to Fox, broadcast network news is dead.....

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. I watch him because of all the shows on MSNBC in the evening he is the one I want to watch my
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:25 AM
Jan 2015

back in a fight. He was great in WI with the teachers protests against Walker. He had been wonderful on the pipeline issue and last night he was furious about the vote. I am looking forward to his coverage of TPP. And he brings us people like Bernie Sanders.

We either support our liberal news programs or b...h about having no liberal media news again in 2016. I also wish that they would switch Ed with Chris Matthews. Much better time to watch.

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