deflategate:the final word

The QB is allowed to set up the ball how they like it. Every quarterback in the league does it. That's why you don't see any of the coaches doing their college stuff complaining about it, they just want this nonsense to go away because they all know and allow it.

The whole "scandal" is sour grapes from a bunch of whiners.

I always knew I'd play better if I had a spike attached to my helmet, something like the Germans wore in WW1. Damn few defensemen would have been able to bring me down if I'd had a lance at the ready. And how much better I'd have been, and how much more exciting my team would have proven, had we been able to truly "stick it" to the other team.

Yeah. Let's jettison the rules so we don't have to wonder if we're playing within them.

PSI in a football is just like letting players kill each other with spiked helmets.

Glad to see you got it.

My rocket-propelled grenade would have smitten your Hun-imitating ass.

We got 4 basketballs a nice rack and a pump yesterday. Our rec center is going to re-open next month. I set the PSI to 8.


I agree with you BTW

"Superman gets into Clark Kent's pants every morning."

The only way to have an even playing field is under the current rules. All balls MUST BE INFLATED within the same range.

12.5-13.5 PSI

No more, no less.

wouldn't letting each qb play with a ball at the PSI he likes be the most fair?

so the running back won't fumble it!

to keep teams from pumping them up and measuring them in the sauna

What if Brady likes his football a little smaller, you know, easier to grip. And while we're at it, why the weird oblong shape? I think it would be easier with something like a baseball, much smaller and denser. Easier to throw and easier to catch. Why the "artificial" rules about the shape and size of the ball. Let the best players play their best with whatever kind of ball they think is easiest.

let the linemen have tanks and let the defense have nukes.

The PSI in a ball isn't a big deal

If it didn't matter, why did they lower the pressure? Why did Brady lobby to have the rule changed so that both teams got to bring their own footballs?

You don't get to break the rules that you find inconvenient. For example, try doing 85 in a 65 mph zone and telling the cop that you prefer the speed limit be higher. See if they buy that as an excuse.

Cheating is cheating. Unfortunately both the Patriots and the Seahawks cheat. The Patriots by using a needle to deflate the football and the Seahawks by using needles to inflate their bodies (and no I don't believe the Seahawks players when they claim they took Adderall since the NFL doesn't announce what substances a test is failed for).

You must not have played much tackle football because the more inflated ball is harder to throw and catch. Also, the ball bounces off player's helmets and shoulder pads more easily if the ball is inflated, resulting in more turnovers.

Brady is going to have to play fair. The Patriot win streak is over. Its not an arbitrary or artificial rule. The inflated footballs will be bouncing of Patriot helmets and pads into the Seahawks waiting hands.

Brady and Belicek are going to have to prove they belong. On a level playing field at a neutral site with regularly inflated football.

"So what?" you say? Seahawks took the high road on this inflation scandal. Its the Patriots doing all the whining to the rest of America, who saw what they did. Take your opinion about this to other sports. You want to raise and lower the NBA baskets because some players would like them lower? That's what you are saying, in effect. The fact that they had to cheat just shows how pathetic and bankrupt the Patriots organization is.

who complained. The Seahawks just happen to be their next opponent.

for a home run.

I'd personally like to see the pharmaceutical Olympics. Get the drug companies to sponsor teams, try out new performance enhancing drugs, and you can watch them perform with the strength and lack of pain to literally tear their own limbs off.

But it will never happen.

to let them widen the goalpost uprights until it suits them.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/11/brady-to-ravens-study-the-rule-book/

“I don’t know,” Brady said. “Who knows? Maybe those guys gotta study the rule book and figure it out."

I'm not saying that there shouldn't be a rule.

But how is it not arbitrary to allow balls to vary by 1.0 psi, so that one team playing with a 13.5 psi ball and the other playing with a 12.5 psi ball is okay, but a difference of 0.1 psi is not okay if one team has a 12.5 psi ball and the other has a 12.4 psi ball?

If there's going to be a rule, shouldn't it be an exact number with no variation?

There's always a range.

1.0 lb is probably reasonable to account for weather changes during the the game - temperature, barometric pressure, etc.

If conditions outside cause variations so be it. But it makes no sense to allow a 1.0 psi variation when the balls are under the same controlled, indoor conditions before the game begins.

but maybe they could be closer, say, within 0.1lb. But that's a guess.

For example, IIRC, inflating a ball causes it to heat up a bit. So a minute after inflation, it will likely be at a slightly-lower pressure.

But I'm being a nit-picking physics weenie here, and probably not even a good one. I agree with your basic point.

Discretion...but you raise a good point. The thing is the range wasn't good enough for new england. They really only wanted the control of the balls to allow them to cheat. Did you see the news about the statistician who calculated that after the rule change the pats fumble percent went way down?

the competing teams, so what?

So a running team can have 10 footballs at 6 pounds, 1 at 12 and 1 at 15

Run run run NEVER FUMBLE, oh need to pass, put in the 12 psi ball, Need to kick a FG put in the 15 psi ball

WHAT THE FUCK, NEED A FG FROM 65 Yards! THROW IN SOME HELIUM!

But first suspend NE from Sunday for cheating.