Income should not be taxable

[glasshouses]

[MH1]

1. Because? nt

[glasshouses]

3. It's too much out a persons paycheck

[VanillaRhapsody]

104. Let me guess....Libertarian?

Rand Paul fan?

[former9thward]

2. And where would the money come from?

[glasshouses]

5. Tax corporations more

[former9thward]

25. Then you do believe income should be taxed.

[YoungDemCA]

68. From trees.

nt

[PeaceNikki]

4. Mustard should not exist.

[glasshouses]

7. What kind of mustard?

yellow?

[PeaceNikki]

8. Any of it. All of it.

[glasshouses]

16. No I like mustard

[PeaceNikki]

21. Tough shit. I like the things society gets from income tax.

[wildbilln864]

91. like what?

[Bandit]

97. Roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, police, fire departments, airports, harbors,

snow removal, environmental protections, employee protections, the list goes on and on.

[wildbilln864]

98. so what pays for the nationall debt?

and why do we have a national debt?
It is interest on loaned money from the fed.

[SummerSnow]

105. Hot dogs do not agree

[pinboy3niner]

17. That's the 6-foot teddy bear in the room. nt

[PeaceNikki]

22. .

I literally almost fell offa my chair.

[GreatGazoo]

84. DUzy.

[AgingAmerican]

29. Who's thinking of the hotdogs?

Outlaw Grey Poupon, yellow mustard rules!!1!

[PeaceNikki]

33. My Chicago friends cringe and HATE me for this, but I put ketchup on my hot dogs.

Long live, ketchup!!

[HappyMe]

55. I too, am a hot dog heretic.

I can't stand yellow mustard. I put ketchup on my hot dogs.
I like spicy horseradish mustard.

[PeaceNikki]

56. .

[sdfernando]

86. I would be banished to hell for what I do

I like my hotdogs with ketchup, relish, onions, and mayo.

[MH1]

88. MAYO ??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOO ....

(seriesly dood, mayo??)

[sdfernando]

95. Yeah, I know its weird. /nt

[GP6971]

109. Raw onions or lightly sauté? n/t

[sdfernando]

113. Raw, finely chopped. /NT

[greatauntoftriplets]

57. This Chicago friend hates ketchup, mustard AND hotdogs!

I'm not cringing.

[PeaceNikki]

61. Thanks for not hating me over sausage!!

[greatauntoftriplets]

65. Never!

[HappyMe]

67. The Great Sausage War of 2015!

Cooks, butchers, cashiers.....the carnage was great.

http://www.goodfood.com.au/good-food/food-news/supermarkets-slash-cost-of-sausages-in-latest-price-war-20150116-12rviu.html

[eridani]

93. Even Vienna Redhots? S/he should be banished to DuPage County!! n/t

[hay rick]

101. Alerting...

[FrodosPet]

106. Ketchup on hot dogs?

[Takket]

110. you are not alone my friend...

you are not alone... others are like you. we exist in the shadows... but we are here.

[PeaceNikki]

111. .

<3

[Dr. Strange]

96. That's the kind of statement I like to Poupon.

[ChosenUnWisely]

6. OK so how should we as a society pay for all the things we enjoy?

Pesky things like police, firemen, schools, roads, snow removal, etc….

Basically the things that make civilization, civilization.

[glasshouses]

10. Town taxes are fine

[ChosenUnWisely]

19. OK so what about the areas between towns that are shared like roads

say town A is willing to pay for paved roads but town B only wants dirt roads because they are cheap

You don't have a problem with a stretch of road between 2 towns or more that goes from paved to dirt to gravel to paved every few miles because the quality of the roads will very depending upon the whims of a town?

[glasshouses]

24. You never lived in Vermont

[ChosenUnWisely]

31. Drive to/thru VT all the time, 89 and 91 are all paved, well some potholes but continous paved

none the less.

Are you referring to class 4 and 5 roads that are typically not publically maintained?

[glasshouses]

38. Yes I was

My friend has a cabin off one just a 1/2 mile off a snow mobile trail.


It's really beautiful there in the winter time.

[ChosenUnWisely]

42. So you are saying all roads should be class 4/5?

[glasshouses]

46. No

Just the peaceful ones

Have you ever crossed country skied down one?

[ChosenUnWisely]

71. Don't skinny ski

[Dont call me Shirley]

76. Brrrrr...

[benz380]

52. County taxes. n/t

[nichomachus]

11. Bake sales. n/t

[MohRokTah]

9. I think that's a silly statement

[glasshouses]

12. I know

Just got a new job

[elleng]

18. so wanted to give us smiles!

Hope its a good job!

[glasshouses]

23. It is and I'm pretty happy about it

[elleng]

26. Good!

Have a good weekend.

[GeorgeGist]

72. First paycheck?

[glasshouses]

73. Yes

with this new job

Never earned that much before in a week.

[1StrongBlackMan]

82. That can't be right ...

the only jobs created ... all 250K+ of them last month ... are crappy jobs with worse pay.

I know because I read it on DU!

Congrats on the job.

[glasshouses]

85. thanks

[LanternWaste]

13. Lots of people do think they should not be liable for the maintenance of their culture and country.

Lots of people do indeed, think they should not be liable for the maintenance of their culture and country.

[BobbyBoring]

36. And for the most part...

They're the ones that benefit the most and can afford to pay!

[nichomachus]

14. We probably need to see more discussion than a headline n/t

[Xipe Totec]

15. I agree with you up to a point. income below poverty line should not be taxed. nt

[glasshouses]

20. They get it all back after filing a federal tax return

Do they not?

[Xipe Totec]

27. Nope, They don't.

You get to exempt $3,900 per person. The poverty line is at $12,000 for a single person.

[yeoman6987]

64. EIC is basically giving away money

So under a certain amount you get even more then you earned.

[bravenak]

34. I always did. And then some.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

28. Onions should not be considered food.

[AgingAmerican]

32. And everything should be free

....like on Star Trek..

[glasshouses]

48. That was always conflicting from one episode to the other

There were mentions of wealthy people
and then other ones it was stated there was no money on earth anymore

[Takket]

112. The Federation essentialy eliminated money....

but that rest of the galaxy did not follow suit. So money did have a place for Federation citizens when dealing with species outside the Federation.

I'm pretty sure the Ferengi were the basis for the tea party platform.

[Liberal Veteran]

41. All onions are great. Onions, garlic, shallots, ramps, leeks, chives, scallions.

All must bow before the great Onion.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

45. Eww.

Onions and all of their hideous kin render the food to which they are added completely inedible. The entire Allium family should be obliterated from the face of the earth.

[Liberal Veteran]

51. You know you can't resist.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

53. Now I'm going to have to throw away my computer

because it is suffused with the horrible stench of onion.

Seriously, though, the taste of onion is enough to make me gag. It's something I've hated since I was a kid and have never been able to acquire a taste for. It may be genetic - my whole immediate family hates onions.

[Control-Z]

92. Life without garlic?

Nooooooooo. Not in my house. French onion soup without onions? Just not gonna happen. And I tend to under spice my meals, leaving the salt and pepper seasoning to be personally adjusted as needed.

[Jamastiene]

62. I love onions. n/t

[blkmusclmachine]

30. ???

[bravenak]

35. We should have in home hollogram machines and personal robots by now.

And flying cars. They promised on Tom and Jerry cartoons when I was a kid. Tragic.

[JustAnotherGen]

37. Love you!

[bravenak]

43. They promised us!!!

[glasshouses]

49. I like your way of thinking

[bravenak]

80. Thought you might like that.

[benz380]

54. And ponies. Don't forget the ponies. n/t

[eridani]

94. No ponies!! Not unless they shit rainbows. I'm series!! n/t

[Egnever]

77. In home holograms are due for release next year

http://www.microsoft.com/microsoft-hololens/en-us?ocid=ASPEN_SEM_google_&cid=ASPEN_SEM_google_

and flying cars have been around for a while.

The robots definitely are lagging a bit though.

[bravenak]

78. The car looks dangerous.

I'll wait for my robot slave to drive me around in it. Well, at least until it gains autonomy and runs away.

[on point]

39. Disagree. All sources (wages, capital gains, dividends, interest) taxed at same rate.

Rate to be progressive.

Taxes on income are NOT too much if the income is great. What you may want to argue for is that income under a certain amount shouldn't be taxed.

But if you don't tax income, then manipulation games will be played to get around it. Hence why all sources of income should be taxed at same rate. No longer any reason to play the games.

[Orsino]

89. No. Value labor more highly than other sources by taxing it less. n/t

[olddots]

40. I'm for a dumbth tax

It would put me in a high bracket .

[pinboy3niner]

44. So the brackets would be moronginal?

[Warpy]

47. Wrong, but not completely so

A century ago, all this stuff was hashed out and taxing income was seen as the best way to fund the government. However, they also decided that taxing low income made by the sweat of one's brow at the same rate as the plutocrat's coupon clipping income was immoral as well as incapable of fully funding a working government, so they instituted the progressive tax code, leaving most income from labor untaxed while socking it to the plutocrats.

What destroyed it is the oil shock induced inflation in the 70s, which pushed working people up into the middle and upper middle class brackets. Congress should have indexed the rates to inflation, but they didn't fucking think of it, as usual.

Enter Reagan.

[HereSince1628]

50. Disagree. Taxes MUST be shared by those who can support the burden

Money is the universal currency. Taxes are about universal collection of currency on those who can pay.

Certainly I'd agree the rate of taxation should be progressive, but that doesn't mean zero.

[meaculpa2011]

58. Profit, not wages, should be taxed. n/t

[Octafish]

59. As long as everything's nationalized, OK.

You know, all the profits now going to Wall Street from oil sales and defense and bailing out banksters were to be shared EQUALLY among We the People, then, OK, no tax on income.

[HappyMe]

60. Where's my flying car?

Or at least a free jet pack?

[handmade34]

63. maybe tax

"unearned" income higher? what usually stings the most at first blush is the SS tax... but it is a good thing in the long run

I have never minded paying taxes because I realize all the benefits I get from those taxes!!

[notadmblnd]

75. pensions are already taxed

and your employer withholds ss taxes every pay period.

[handmade34]

79. that was my point

and I was thinking more along the lines of inheritance tax

[dilby]

66. No it should be taxed, there should not be a sales tax. n/t

[glasshouses]

70. A lot of states rely on that income

The only way around that is increasing property taxes , motor vehicle registrations , inspection stickers etc...

[dilby]

83. Or Income tax.

Oregon has no sales tax, only income tax. No sales tax benefits the poor who spend a majority of their paychecks to live.

[Bluenorthwest]

69. Wealth should be taxable.

nt

[Mass]

74. You're in the wrong place, in this case.

This is the Tea Party credo : income should not be taxed (any of it). Only consumption should be taxed (fees and sales tax). Those are also the most regressive ways to tax people.

[brooklynite]

81. OPs should not be lazy

Explain why if you're going to bother to post.

[applegrove]

87. Because taxing income created a middle class in the western world within a decade?

I gotta ask.

[trackfan]

90. I would put a tax on all people who stand in water! n/t

[HereSince1628]

99. Why not? It provides convenient mechanisms to withhold.

I haven't a problem with progressive schedules from zero for impoverished to a minimum of 50+ for the wealthy

Government isn't free. We all must share, as we can, in support of government. If we don't government passes to those who can buy it. Then there isn't government interested in people

[City Lights]

100. Professor Plum in the Library with a Candlestick. nt

[JanMichael]

102. hell you thought your health plan was caddy. not realizing other benefits were a part of the total.

Oh and FICA is not a person.

How would you ever even know what gross and net are and would you understand the other deductions?

Really please stop. Your understanding of finances is abysmal.

[Agnosticsherbet]

103. Why fund the government, on the backs of its citizens?

Citizens should not owe anything for the roads they drive on, the schools they attend, or anything else.

That is so...so...so....libertarian.

How do you suggest we fund a government of the people, for the people, and by the people?

[hootinholler]

107. No Damned Sweat Tax!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026197256

[Glassunion]

108. Income should be taxable

So there! Take that!

[Orsino]

114. Now I'm confused. n/t

[DrDan]

115. so say the FAIRTAXERs

[edhopper]

116. All income should be taxed

and at the same rate for the individual whether it's from a paycheck or Capitol Gains.
Marginal rates for people with higher income should be raised. Including FICA tax.
And Yes Corporations need to pay more taxes.
We don't have a spending budget problem, we have a revenue budget problem.