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Nuclear Unicorn

(19,497 posts)
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:44 AM Feb 2015

Boris Nemtsov, Putin Foe, Is Shot Dead in Shadow of Kremlin

Boris Nemtsov, Putin Foe, Is Shot Dead in Shadow of Kremlin

MOSCOW — Boris Y. Nemtsov, a prominent Russian opposition leader and former first deputy prime minister, was shot dead Friday evening in central Moscow in the highest-profile assassination in Russia during the tenure of President Vladimir V. Putin.

The shooting, on a bridge near Red Square, under the towering domes of St. Basil’s Cathedral, ended Mr. Nemtsov’s two-decade career as a champion of democratic reforms, beginning in the wake of the Soviet Union’s collapse in 1991, and just days before he was to lead a rally to protest the war in Ukraine.

Mr. Putin condemned the killing, the Kremlin said, and Mr. Putin’s spokesman, Dmitri S. Peskov, said the president would personally lead the investigation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/28/world/europe/boris-nemtsov-russian-opposition-leader-is-shot-dead.html?smid=tw-bna&_r=0


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CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
1. Let's see what comes out of this investigation.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:47 AM
Feb 2015

The investigations into the Syria Gouta chemical attack, Maidan Square snipers and shooting down of MH17 didn't seem to go anywhere.

ck4829

(35,043 posts)
2. His investigation will pin it on Sergei Magnitsky
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:50 AM
Feb 2015

If a court could convict the man after his death, hey, why not this?

Case closed.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. Anyone who doesn't believe Putin is behind this, is only fooling him/herself. That corrupt dictator
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:04 AM
Feb 2015

who steals from the Russian people, who has amassed a whopping $200 BILLION dollar fortune for himself (under different names, as reported by a Dutch broker who worked with a Russian attorney - who was killed - on Dutch news yesterday - I LOVE the Internet!) is turning Russia back into his beloved USSR.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
5. Anyone who jumps to knee jerk conclusions and doesn't wait for the facts is relying on bias.
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:13 AM
Feb 2015

This happens time and again with all big news stories.

What's worse is that the full story of many of these events is never revealed or revealed much later.

We still don't have the whole story behind 9/11, the Syrian Ghouta chemical attack, the Maidan Square snipers, the shooting down of MH17 etc.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
6. Knee jerk conclusions? Are you actually defending Putin??
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:19 AM
Feb 2015

With his corrupt background that ties him in with so many deaths and "random" executions of people who dare speak against him while he controls Russia with an iron fist and has even gone so far as to annex a sovereign country, you'd still want to give this p.o.s. the benefit of the doubt??

Wow.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
7. Have you read the full 9/11 report? Have you read the Maidan Square report? The MH17 report?
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:22 AM
Feb 2015

Probably not, because they haven't been released.

I'm not defending Putin.

I'm defending the principle of waiting for the facts instead of joining the bandwagon.

The same as I did before the Iraq War when we on DU were accused of being traitors and Saddam-lovers.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. Waiting for the facts in cases as enormous as the ones you've pointed out, is wishful thinking
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:37 AM
Feb 2015

at best, willful gullibility at worst.

Do you actually think people in positions of power who are able to get away with large-scale events like those, are EVER going to allow the cold hard facts to be made public?

You probably still believe that the Vietnam war was about fighting Communism, too, don't you? Or that any American war that was started was just to help spread democracy around the globe or to defend the United States from potential enemies.

I'm sorry, but I stopped believing in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny when I turned five years old.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. Russian history makes Game of Thrones look like Mr Rogers Neighborhood
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 10:22 AM
Feb 2015

There are rivalries within the Putin rivals, it's not one group against Putin it's everyone for themselves.

Thinking like a Russian rival to Putin it makes some sense, make Putin look (even more) horrible, stifle your fellow rivals who weren't shot but will now be much more cautious, get rid of one fellow rival completely and clear the decks for further maneuvering on your own part less impeded by fellow rivals.

Putin would have been a little more subtle about it in my view, he's by no means stupid and he has to know how bad this makes him look and even to Putin appearances have at least some value.


On the other hand there is this..

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