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Bernie Sanders: Aetna's CEO, Mark T. Bertolini announces..



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Reply Bernie Sanders: Aetna's CEO, Mark T. Bertolini announces.. (Original post)
Playinghardball Feb 2015 OP
MFrohike Feb 2015 #1
Scootaloo Feb 2015 #2
jwirr Feb 2015 #3
madokie Feb 2015 #4
freshwest Feb 2015 #11
rhett o rick Feb 2015 #5
BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #17
eggplant Feb 2015 #6
NewJeffCT Feb 2015 #12
Scuba Feb 2015 #7
Enthusiast Feb 2015 #8
ReRe Feb 2015 #9
appalachiablue Feb 2015 #10
tclambert Feb 2015 #13
madamvlb Feb 2015 #14
JDPriestly Feb 2015 #15
Yavin4 Feb 2015 #16
Cha Mar 2015 #18
smirkymonkey Mar 2015 #19
RiverLover Mar 2015 #20
progressoid Mar 2015 #21
IADEMO2004 Mar 2015 #22

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 06:23 PM

1. Not bad

I like him to follow that by supporting increased power of workers to organize and bargain so they don't have to rely on noblesse oblige like his, but can win their own fights. That isn't a disparagement of what he's proposed, it's a hope for the future.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 06:32 PM

2. From twelve to sixteen?

 

While that's definitely good, it's still a fucking pittance to pay the people who assure you a life in the clouds.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:14 PM

3. What is going on that these companies are doing this suddenly? Are they finally beginning to realize

that income inequality is not good for anyone?

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Response to jwirr (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:25 PM

4. They're realizing they no longer have customers

running out of customers

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Response to madokie (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:26 PM

11. They killed plenty of people off:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aetna#Fines.2C_lawsuits_and_settlements

My family was too busy to join the class action law suit, dealing with the aftermath of their blantantly illegal actions. They caused us irreparable harm we are still living with, for the most part. The dead have no voice, those whose lives are ruined by these crooks, have little power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aetna

They may have changed their ways, maybe not:

In 2005, the company had $1.1 billion in earnings. Aetna's 2007 revenue, reported in 2008, was $27.6 billion. Aetna's 2008 revenue, reported in 2009, was $31 billion. Aetna's 2012 revenue, reported in 2013, was $35.54 billion.

So they can afford to toss a few pennies. Those they robbed of their future aren't figured into those lawsuits.
The executives should be in jail, IMHO.

Yeah, it's 'personal.'

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Response to jwirr (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:28 PM

5. I think it was SunTzu that said never put your opponent in the position with no possible escape.

 

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The is no greater foe than a desperate soldier with nothing to lose. For the smart capitalist, there is an optimum point of desperation that people achieve where they will not fight back.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 02:58 AM

17. ^^Winner

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:43 PM

6. You become more conciliatory when there are enough torches and pitchforks at your door. n/t

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Response to eggplant (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:35 PM

12. A few years back

Bertolini became handicapped due to a skiing accident. It's possible that changed his perspective? He also read a book by Thomas Piketty about income inequality and then asked all his senior people to read it, so that likely helped as well.

But, despite being an insurance company, Aetna has had a long history of being friendly to women, minorities and gay employees. Back in the 70s, they caused a stir when they hired Arthur Ashe first as a consultant to the Board of Directors, and then actually naming him to the Board. The CEO before Bertolini was African American Ron Williams and supposedly the CEO to be after Bertolini is going to be a woman. Also, before Janet Reno was named Attorney General for Bill Clinton, his first nominee for AG was Aetna's top lawyer, Zoe Baird. However, she was derailed by nanny-gate, but I always wonder if she had gotten in there, if we would have gotten Hillarycare in 1993 or 1994 instead of having it derailed by Republicans at the time. They're usually rated as one of the best places for gay & lesbian employees as well.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 07:50 PM

7. That dirty fucking commie pinko hippie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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Response to Scuba (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:04 PM

8. PLUS ONE!

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Response to Scuba (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:17 PM

9. PLUS TWO

Thanks, Scuba!

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:25 PM

10. Three Cheers for Aetna's CEO, alright. Go workers! Thanks for the great post.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:01 PM

13. He's probably gonna catch hell from Wall Street.

The conventional thinkers of the business world will respond with outrage: "You want to PAY workers MORE? You want them to be able to FEED themselves? Your membership to the US Chamber of Commerce is hereby REVOKED!"

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:08 PM

14. In some cases? Why not everyone?

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:15 PM

15. K&R.

And frankly, some of these highly paid CEOs would not really notice if they paid themselves a couple of million dollars less and their employees a couple of million dollars (spread over their employees) more each year. They really would not live any worse than they do now.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sat Feb 28, 2015, 09:17 PM

16. They're trying to get out in front of the growing union movement

Millions of Americans are hurting financially. The lure of joining a union is gaining strength.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:05 AM

18. What we've been sayin.. hope this trends! Mahalo Play and Mark Bertolini!

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 05:20 AM

19. K&R! Bravo!

 

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 07:21 AM

20. "Aetna CEO Asked Execs To Read Piketty, Then Gave His Lowest-Paid Workers A Raise"

So glad Bernie is giving this more exposure!!! MSM sure didn't.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026088340

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 03:03 PM

21. But won't that kill job growth or something.

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Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Sun Mar 1, 2015, 05:18 PM

22. Because the ACA is $$$$$ for health insurance companies!!!!!

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