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Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:16 PM

Do you think Hillary Clinton is going to run?

All of the teeth gnashing on this site over her potential candidacy and she has not yet declared, and as far as I know started the obligatory exploratory committee.

Is it just accepted wisdom that she's in?

I'm going to plant my flag here: I don't think she will be the Democratic nominee next year but unlike others, I think she will not be the nominee because she will not run.

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Reply Do you think Hillary Clinton is going to run? (Original post)
Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 OP
Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2015 #1
PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #2
langstonhues Mar 2015 #21
AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #3
NCTraveler Mar 2015 #5
AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #7
NCTraveler Mar 2015 #18
FSogol Mar 2015 #4
dissentient Mar 2015 #6
KMOD Mar 2015 #8
PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #20
Autumn Mar 2015 #9
OKNancy Mar 2015 #10
HappyMe Mar 2015 #11
Chiyo-chichi Mar 2015 #12
RedCappedBandit Mar 2015 #13
wyldwolf Mar 2015 #14
jeff47 Mar 2015 #15
Kablooie Mar 2015 #16
former9thward Mar 2015 #17
PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #22
bigwillq Mar 2015 #19
DemocratSinceBirth Apr 2015 #36
winter is coming Mar 2015 #23
JI7 Mar 2015 #24
NightWatcher Mar 2015 #25
daleanime Mar 2015 #26
Android3.14 Mar 2015 #27
HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #28
Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #30
HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #31
Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #32
HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #34
hrmjustin Mar 2015 #29
TBF Mar 2015 #33
Orsino Mar 2015 #35

Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:17 PM

1. I think you're wrong but hope you're right.

 

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:18 PM

2. She is currently assembling a campaign team. She's running. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #2)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:36 PM

21. She might be buying the campaigners so others don't have the choices

 

then she will choose who she will support and that choice will have the early support so important. I don't think that choice will be a Sanders or a Warren, but someone who also believes in big money and small government.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:18 PM

3. Her campaign to date includes leaks, surrogate attacks, & announcements of coming announcements.

 

Of course she's running.

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:21 PM

5. Who are the flying monkeys?

 

Who are her rivals?

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:23 PM

7. There was a tag-team attack on Elizabeth Warren from Howard Dean and Warren Buffet today.

 

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Response to AtomicKitten (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:35 PM

18. EW can take it. She is tough.

 

I still have enough respect for Dean to not call him a flying monkey. Extremely smart man who has devoted a good portion of his time to great causes.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:20 PM

4. She's already announced when she will announce.

She leads in the polls, leads in organization, and lead in dollars. Why wouldn't she run?

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:22 PM

6. Not sure.

 

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:23 PM

8. I'm not convinced she is running.

 

I think she will do all she can to help the eventual nominee, but I don't get the sense that she wants to run.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #8)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:36 PM

20. I think she wants to be President but doesn't like running for President.

Campaigns are grueling and only a few politicians actually seem to enjoy them.


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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:24 PM

9. Yeah, she's going to run. But when she announces she better get ready for people

looking close at her stand on the TPP, Keystone, banks and wars, looking at them and asking questions She won't have the luxury of keeping quiet then.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:24 PM

10. Of course she is running

It's obvious Captain.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:25 PM

11. We've been hearing about this for

the past 2 damn years. She probably will. She's made announcements that she will be making an announcement.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:25 PM

12. You're going to need a new username, Capt. Obvious.

She's going to run.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:26 PM

13. Of course.

I'm no fan, but it's obvious she has a high chance of succeeding. Nobody with that much potential would turn it down.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:27 PM

14. She announces in April

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:27 PM

15. The only reason she will not run is if a major health issue appears. (nt)

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:29 PM

16. If she was not going to run wouldn't she notify the DMC so they could start grooming others?

There's no real rumors of anyone else flying around, Elizabeth and Bernie notwithstanding.
If she pulls out without preparing them it could upset a lot of people and brighten the faces of the GOP.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:29 PM

17. She is putting together staff.

People like John Podesta do not quit White House jobs to join something that "might" happen.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:36 PM

22. Exactly. n/t

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:35 PM

19. Yes

 

That's what I think. I'll find out soon enough.

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Response to bigwillq (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 10, 2015, 11:03 AM

36. Everything is revealed in the fullness of time./NT

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:36 PM

23. I fully expect her to run. n/t

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:37 PM

24. If she wasn't going to run she would have said so

right now and a bunch of other democrats would be going to iowa and nh.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:38 PM

25. I think the answer is rather obvious, Capt Obvious

She is definitely going to run. I'm not a fan but will vote for the nom.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:43 PM

26. I think she wants to....

but she knows that a large group wouldn't be happy with that, and then you have to think about the republicans.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:45 PM

27. If she doesn't run, she's smarter than I give credit

 

Despite the manipulated polls, it is obvious there is a significant and vocal group within the Democratic Party who are against more warmongering corporate shills who behave like they are entitled to the Presidency.

That being said, I think she will run specifically because she is a warmongering corporate shill who thinks she is entitled to the Presidency. I doubt she will win, but even if she does win, the American people lose. Maybe not as bad a loss as a Republican President, but we will still lose.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:49 PM

28. Yes. Why would a person with existing infrastructure in place need exploring of anything?

I do think she has freedom before announcing that doesn't exist afterward...coordination with pacs, avoidance of having to respond to media questions whose answers be seen as different from answers needed later, etc.

So there's no reason for her to be in a rush and candidates typically announce ~June to early October.

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #28)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:07 AM

30. I just have a feeling she doesn't want to go through that again

and then I read this last night.

She may be keeping her options in play as she should but I think she's going to yank out at the last minute (last minute for Presidential primary season anyway).

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #30)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:18 AM

31. I'm not able to know or even guess what she thinks...

I'm not part of Team H, but she's a professional with a staff with a rolodex, she'll always have a team ready to respond to things like this, and this really isn't 'big' at this point.

She's done the right thing by admitting it. The problem is -not- going to grow because of a cover-up

Moreover, it's pretty clear that alternate communications systems aren't uncommon for republicans. I'm not at all sure this will turn into anything

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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #31)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:21 AM

32. I'm sure this will be flogged to death on the right

and forced into the MSM for just about as long.

Until the next Clinton "controversy."

My gut was telling me she's going to decide it's not worth before this.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Reply #32)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:40 AM

34. The right can try... HRC has long drawn 'special' attention from the right

That's never going to change, there will always be a next. But that says more about her opponents than her wrong doing.

It's very early in this dust-up. What do any of us know about the rule/laws in play?

Close inspection of the rules/laws about archival record keeping, transparency, security etc which will follow soon, may show no wrong doing in the end.



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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Mon Mar 2, 2015, 04:52 PM

29. I am convinced she will run.

 

If she doesn't I think our chances of winning the White House go down big.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:31 AM

33. I'm not convinced -

The difficulty for the dems though is putting up someone in her place. Bernie and Liz are both great but I'm not sure either are mainstream enough to win. I'm still hoping Julian Castro will pull an Obama and announce before he's "supposed" to.

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Response to Capt. Obvious (Original post)

Tue Mar 3, 2015, 11:03 AM

35. And she will win.

Setting us up nicely for another decade of Clinton impeachment talk.

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