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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFor All of Their "Economic" B.S., Where Do "Conservative" States Rank?
Dead last. The red states are the least productive and yet they want to tell us what to do? At the bottom, Mississippi $28,944. For all of their railing against Illinois, we are at number 16 with $46,151. Alaska does well at number 2, with $61,156 but chalk that up to a small population and a lot of oil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_GDP_per_capita
Why do red states have so much power? Something is seriously wrong about that. And why do we let them drag us down with b.s. like their idiotic "right to work" nonsense? These states are dirt poor. Their education systems suck. Why emulate them?
cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)comparing Scott Walker's WI economy, with neighbor MN, whose governor, Mark Dayton, it turns out is i the "Democrat-Labor-Farmer" party. (Guess which state's is better. Yah...).
KansDem
(28,498 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)"Conservatives" rail on and on about debt but if you ask them why they have no good answers. Sure, being less in debt sounds good but you need a little more than good sounding bumper sticker slogans. At least I do.
State debt will have to be repaid. That's true enough. But isn't quality of life what really matters?
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I am sure red states are riddled with big debt which would add to the blue state being better.
Especially right now, where the interest rate is so low. If you have a state with no debt but a horrible education system and poor income prospects for residents you are going to have a hard time with tax revenues (unless you're Alaska with oil revenue or Florida with tourism). By contrast if you have a strong, diversified, dynamic economy investing in your residents makes a lot of business sense.
In fact the willingness to take on debt shows confidence.
But if the state goes bust, what's anyone going to do about it?
former9thward
(31,970 posts)"But if the state goes bust, what's anyone going to do about it?" A couple things. People will not loan the state anymore money and things like pensions will not be paid. You up for that?
Cary
(11,746 posts)And why on earth would you turn this at me? I didn't underfund the pensions. That wasn't done by either party, it was done by everyone here in Illinois. We have had a low income tax. They robbed Peter to pay Paul.
Sheesh.
former9thward
(31,970 posts)I gave an educated guess. States can't print money. It has to come from somewhere.
Cary
(11,746 posts)And they still need to exist, going forward.
I'm not in favor of running up debt. I'm just really not in favor of "conservative" stupidity.
former9thward
(31,970 posts)Pretty much all the states with the least debt per capita are red states.
http://www.statista.com/statistics/246333/state-debt-per-capita-in-the-united-states/
Cary
(11,746 posts)I see.
former9thward
(31,970 posts)Nothing to do with what I like or not. Got some different facts? Post them.
Cary
(11,746 posts)why?