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wyldwolf

(43,867 posts)
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:10 PM Mar 2015

Michael Tomasky Take The Wind Out Of The Sails of Clinton Email-truthers

... The (NY Times) article says that there were “new” regulations that Clinton was supposed to abide by. It notes that one past secretary of state, Colin Powell, who served from 2001 to 2005, sometimes used his personal email account “before the new regulations went into effect.”

A key question would seem to be this: When did the new regulations go into effect? Oddly, the Times article doesn’t say. It doesn’t pin the new regs down to a specific date or even year.

Now, I know enough about reporting to know how this works. If you’ve got an airtight case, then you lay it all out there. You include the date. Indeed you emphasize the date, you put it high up in your story. The fact that it’s not in there is a little fishy.

Well, this might be the explanation: The new regs apparently weren’t fully implemented by State until a year and half after Clinton left State. Here’s the timeline: Clinton left the State Department on February 1, 2013. Back in 2011, President Obama had signed a memorandum directing the update of federal records management. But the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) didn’t issue the relevant guidance, declaring that email records of senior government officials are permanent federal records, until August 2013. Then, in September 2013, NARA issued guidance on personal email use. A senior State Department official emailed me to say that “in October 2014, a Department-wide notice was sent out which explained each employee’s responsibilities for records management. Consistent with 2013 NARA guidance, it included instructions that generally employees should not use personal email for the transaction of government business, but that in the very limited circumstances when it is necessary, all records must be forwarded to a government account or otherwise preserved in the Department’s electronic records systems.”

So if these new regulations went into effect after she left State, then what rule did she violate, exactly? And, if this is true, why did the Times not share this rather crucial piece of information with its readers? No one could possibly argue that this fact isn’t germane to the story. It’s absolutely central to it. Why would the Times leave it out?

The Times article says the “existence of Mrs. Clinton’s personal email account was discovered by a House committee investigating the attack on the American Consulate in Benghazi.” This is incorrect. Gawker reported this first, in March 2013. At the time Clinton was Secretary, the Federal Records Act didn’t require federal employees to use government accounts, only to preserve records of their communications. This, Clinton seems to have done.

This seems like a good time to remember another pattern of behavior: namely, that of the Times. I remember clear as a bell reading that initial Jeff Gerth story on Whitewater back in March 1992. It seemed devastating. It took many millions of dollars and many years and many phony allegations before important parts of Gerth’s reporting were debunked. But they were. The Clintons did nothing wrong on Whitewater except to be naïve enough to let themselves by chiseled by Jim McDougal.

If they had done something wrong, with all the prosecutorial firepower thrown at them by a prosecutor (Ken Starr) who clearly hated them, don’t you think they’d have been indicted? Of course they would have been. But Starr couldn’t turn anything up on Whitewater and was about to close down his investigation empty-handed until he got wind of a gal named Monica.

So that’s a pattern too. The Times, for those with short memories, has never loved the Clintons. Remember Howell Raines and his ceaseless, thundering editorials against them. And today, it smells like the Times may have been rolled by the Republican staff of the Benghazi panel. And hey, great work by them and Chairman Trey Gowdy to use the nation’s leading liberal newspaper in this way.

Times has some questions to answer: Did you know that the new regs went into effect after Clinton left office? And if you didn’t, why not? And if you did, why did you leave that fact out of the story? One can imagine Clinton coming up with decent answers to her questions, but it’s kind of hard to see how the Times can.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

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Michael Tomasky Take The Wind Out Of The Sails of Clinton Email-truthers (Original Post) wyldwolf Mar 2015 OP
Shoddy reporting./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #1
Exactly. Sensationalism & smear is where this story begins and ends. misterhighwasted Mar 2015 #2
And, just because I'm feeling snarky gratuitous Mar 2015 #3
NYT Story was a Clinton thunder-run... pull out the bullets and uncover the enemies.... uponit7771 Mar 2015 #4
5th Rec. TY wyldwolf. I hope for a robust primary, but goddam this is ugly as hell already. Hekate Mar 2015 #5
Thank goodness for the Tomaskys of the asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #6
Waiting for all the RW enablers here at DU to apologize for their HDS posts on the topic riqster Mar 2015 #7
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2015 #8
Love Michael Tomasky! NYT-A Little Fishy.. Cha Mar 2015 #9
"you include the date..." TerrapinFlyer Mar 2015 #10

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
2. Exactly. Sensationalism & smear is where this story begins and ends.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:37 PM
Mar 2015

The same old rabid right wing is still there & begins the smear before Mrs Clinton even enters the 2016 race.
Did they role out this smear today to lessen the impact of her speech tonight about women's accomplishments, the same women the right wing loves to vaginally probe via SKYPE?
Or did they begin the smear today to lessen the blowback from Bibi's speech to the GOP Congress?
Hardball with Matthews has a few things to say about this subject. Stay tuned.

Hillary Clinton did absolutely nothing wrong but then this smear comes in mighty handy on a day when the right wing stands to lose some ground.

We've seen this game before.
Enjoy your evening among friends Mrs Clinton, I will be listening to your speech & continue forming my opinions about you by your own words, rather than the half truths of media sensationalsts and the talking points of those on the Right who fear your strength & support among voters.

Thanks for this post "dragonslayer" wyldwolf.
The more they work to defeat her, the more powerful she gets.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. And, just because I'm feeling snarky
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:45 PM
Mar 2015

I note that any failure on Secretary Clinton's part to follow procedures, guidelines, recommendations, or what have you, would have been a failure to follow what amounts to an executive order by President Obama. And isn't that just exactly what Republicans are threatening to compromise our national security over this past month or so - an executive order?

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
4. NYT Story was a Clinton thunder-run... pull out the bullets and uncover the enemies....
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 05:48 PM
Mar 2015

... who'll do anything to discredit you.

She's got something going ...

Just my speculation

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
6. Thank goodness for the Tomaskys of the
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 12:28 PM
Mar 2015

Factual Journalism society - Michael in particular...this is how we are going to roll for the next year 1/2 - stay focused folk's - the shit is starting to be slammed against the wall - Whenever Tomasky writes, I sit up and listen...I do believe he is just getting started and so smart - now there is someone who is paying attention..and can write!

I have not taken a side within the Democratic party, except the side of facts...Hillary happens to be our strongest candidate to date -Liz Warren has repeatedly said she is not running, I honestly believe if she had come out strong with a run for the Presidency we would be having a different conversation.. - and Bernie, his message is strong and is on the side of hard working Americans, but, IMHO, cannot rise above the two party system....

Hillary is smart to continue to observe, strategize, and hold her cards close until she can pull the four aces from the deck...considering the Republicans are only a flush..literally...they will keep stumbling...for they have no ideas....war mongering - neocons that they are -

So what is a gal to do...continue to keep an ear to the ground, stay classy, and informed...

So I ask, what does a Republican Presidency look like? Who do they have? are you afraid of Corporate Christie ? - Jebbie speaks with forked tougue? - Walker Kochslime? - Nuff said....stand strong, we are the WARRIORS of yesteryear - we know how to mobilize - do your Dads and granddads and moms and grandmoms proud..they fought this fight for freedom..we must carry on against this oligarthy..


riqster

(13,986 posts)
7. Waiting for all the RW enablers here at DU to apologize for their HDS posts on the topic
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 06:13 PM
Mar 2015

Waiting....


Waiting....


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Cha

(296,774 posts)
9. Love Michael Tomasky! NYT-A Little Fishy..
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:06 AM
Mar 2015

A key question would seem to be this: When did the new regulations go into effect? Oddly, the Times article doesn’t say. It doesn’t pin the new regs down to a specific date or even year.

Now, I know enough about reporting to know how this works. If you’ve got an airtight case, then you lay it all out there. You include the date. Indeed you emphasize the date, you put it high up in your story. The fact that it’s not in there is a little fishy.

 

TerrapinFlyer

(277 posts)
10. "you include the date..."
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:34 PM
Mar 2015

1. Who
2. What
3. Why
4. When
5. Where
6. How


You can skip number 4 if you are writing a smear article on Hillary.

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