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Man Standing Outside Congress Speaks For Millions Of Americans Today (Original Post) kpete Mar 2015 OP
That's a great sign, one that I definitely identify with. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #1
Smart to use a stencil. MSNBC, find this man. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #3
Some people are just gifted calligraphers ! YOHABLO Mar 2015 #12
That isn't stencil, Unknown Beatle Mar 2015 #17
Even smarter...find this man, MSNBC, give him a voice. He deserves it. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #18
Sure sums up my opinion at the moment. calimary Mar 2015 #7
Yup me too madokie Mar 2015 #11
+1 old guy Mar 2015 #2
Amen. Delphinus Mar 2015 #4
He nailed it! Maybe he should run for office! shraby Mar 2015 #5
I am so freaking tired of my representatives using exclusive language such as this: Agony Mar 2015 #6
It could be worse, you could have my Senator. A Simple Game Mar 2015 #36
You think yours are bad, I've got Teddy Cruz Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #42
Overall they are worse but in relationship to Israel I doubt if any are worse than Schumer. n/t A Simple Game Mar 2015 #48
That certainly cuts through the bullshit hifiguy Mar 2015 #8
And a well made sign to boot. Throd Mar 2015 #9
He really has presence, also. juajen Mar 2015 #22
And correct spelling. BarbaRosa Mar 2015 #28
That was most Phentex Mar 2015 #37
Why is Israel so goddamned important, anyway? AngryDem001 Mar 2015 #10
Because if we did not, the ME would destroy Israel in a heartbeat. Rex Mar 2015 #13
With all the fire power Israel has, their well trained military, the drones, the chemical weapons, kelliekat44 Mar 2015 #30
I have NEVER understood that Skittles Mar 2015 #19
why, because artemis starwolf Mar 2015 #53
That's a VERY good and compelling question, AngryDem001 calimary Mar 2015 #55
It seems, that in exchange for giving Isreal a bunch of military toys, AngryDem001 Mar 2015 #56
I know. This is a problem I cannot get away from. calimary Mar 2015 #57
Cool, dude! Cha Mar 2015 #14
back at you Cha kpete Mar 2015 #44
And who did Netanyahu give an address to before Congress? That's right AIPAC YOHABLO Mar 2015 #15
This man is Constitutionally required to speak for all Americans on foreign affairs, all 320 million: Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #16
Obama simply knows how to act responsibly as an adult, unlike the republicans. George II Mar 2015 #47
Yes, it's one or the other Martin Eden Mar 2015 #20
Only because "D" is next to the President's name, and he's NOT one of "them" (aka "caucasian"). George II Mar 2015 #26
I assume you're citing the R's motive in this stunt with Netanyahu Martin Eden Mar 2015 #29
Correct - their allegiance is to their wallets. George II Mar 2015 #31
No truer words than those right there. ffr Mar 2015 #41
Perfect! SCVDem Mar 2015 #21
He seems angry.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #23
Sad that after 60+ years of supporting Israel unequivocally...... George II Mar 2015 #24
love it rbrnmw Mar 2015 #25
I'm actually surprised Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #27
Prolly swooned over Ben's speech. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #33
, blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #32
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2015 #34
An Updated List of Vetoes Cast by the United States to Shield Israel... KansDem Mar 2015 #35
WOW.. that's a staggering statistic. wonder what the update from 2004 to present time would be.. 2banon Mar 2015 #54
+++! Buenaventura Mar 2015 #38
K&R. Hmm, and no misspelling. ffr Mar 2015 #39
Dear Sir: Brigid Mar 2015 #40
He forgot the C option. Multinational Corporations. nt raouldukelives Mar 2015 #43
They both could have been included in the B option, but he was focusing on the one particular event, Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2015 #49
I pledge to the... TRoN33 Mar 2015 #45
gimee,gimee.gimee father founding Mar 2015 #46
!!! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2015 #50
That John Fogerty's a smart man lame54 Mar 2015 #51
k& r Sheelanagig Mar 2015 #52

Agony

(2,605 posts)
6. I am so freaking tired of my representatives using exclusive language such as this:
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:01 PM
Mar 2015

"Strengthening The U.S./Israel Friendship

Senator Gillibrand will continue to strengthen America’s close relationship with the State of Israel. In both the House of Representatives and the Senate, she has stood with Israel to protect its citizens against terrorist threats, strengthen sanctions against Iran to prevent them from developing nuclear weapons, and support Israel’s continued efforts to bring peace and security to its people. The U.S. and Israel have a strong and historic bond, and Senator Gillibrand continues to advocate for policies that strengthen their deep friendship. In the National Defense Authorization Act, Senator Gillibrand voted to add over $300 million to the budget for Israel missile defense, and will continue to fight to ensure that there is no doubt that the U.S. will always stand with Israel, our historic and closest ally in the Middle East.
"

always? the "right or wrong" kind of just plain wrong…

Otherwise, for the most part I gotta love Kirsten.

A Simple Game

(9,214 posts)
36. It could be worse, you could have my Senator.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 09:15 AM
Mar 2015

Since Lieberman retired I like to call Schumer the best Senator Israel has.

Oh, wait... Looks like both of us are double screwed!

Throd

(7,208 posts)
9. And a well made sign to boot.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:05 PM
Mar 2015

As a guy in the sign industry, I appreciate a quality home made sign.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
10. Why is Israel so goddamned important, anyway?
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:11 PM
Mar 2015

Why are they so special that they get billions of OUR FUCKING MONEY while our schools and infrastructure crumble?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. Because if we did not, the ME would destroy Israel in a heartbeat.
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:19 PM
Mar 2015

That is the standard reply and I have no idea if it is true or false. The fact that Israel has nukes and could destroy the entire ME (and we are the ones that supplied the nukes) if a war broke out might also be another.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
30. With all the fire power Israel has, their well trained military, the drones, the chemical weapons,
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 11:07 PM
Mar 2015

the nukes, and fighter bombers...?? They would not be destroyed and really the Palestinians just want their land back to destroy the illegal borders that Israel has drawn for itself. They don't want to " annihilate" the Jews living in Israel. The kind of destruction they want is the destruction of the borders that give their land to the Israelis.

artemis starwolf

(31 posts)
53. why, because
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 07:13 PM
Mar 2015

Da BIBLE says they are God's chosen people and da LORD gave them that land; that's what it says in da BIBLE! And we're a Christian nation so we gotta stand up for God's chosen people an' all....

calimary

(81,197 posts)
55. That's a VERY good and compelling question, AngryDem001
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:09 PM
Mar 2015

I find myself bothered by that all the time these days. Particularly considering two issues:
1) they are, or are believed to be, obscenely well equipped to defend themselves (mostly with our help) and hugely disproportionally to the areas around them.
2) and lately it seems as though they disproportionately meddle in our politics with disproportionately heavy lobbying influence and clout - and their prime minister has shown us nothing but demands and disrespect. To our president especially. He and that scheming sneaky-ass ambassador of his went around the Backs of our President and our State Department, and connived with the opposition party.
Wondering if we should start questioning how much lavish amounts of OUR money we hand them repeatedly. Maybe we should start cutting back? OR letting them know we're starting to consider that.
Seems to me we need to address and respond to their bad behavior a little better. That bibi should get a clear and strong message that this is NOT the way you treat someone who's been a pretty doggone loyal friend.
Maybe it's time we reconsider such lavish giving? Or at least pull back on it a little? Just asking.

AngryDem001

(684 posts)
56. It seems, that in exchange for giving Isreal a bunch of military toys,
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 05:22 PM
Mar 2015

we let our own schools, our own bridges, our own infrastructure crumble.

Makes a LOTTA sense.

calimary

(81,197 posts)
57. I know. This is a problem I cannot get away from.
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:58 PM
Mar 2015

Make no mistake - I totally support Israel's right to exist. I totally support Israel's right to exist - there, where it is. But borders may have been inflated and need to revert back to near what they were at some designated past date that's negotiated carefully and thoughtfully, I'd hope. There'd have to be things taken into consideration like - would some version of that be something acceptable to most Palestinians while not making Israel feel threatened or vulnerable?

Let me also say I don't follow this issue as closely as do others, and certainly some here. So I don't understand all the fine points.

But what I do, at least, think I understand is what seems to me an extremely boiled-down version of things. Something as simple as - we all have to share some of the same fill-in-the-blank-here. Could be a toy, could be the last piece of pie, could be a certain part of the street or neighborhood, could be a whole country forcryingoutloud. There's not enough so that everybody can have the whole thing. You guys simply have to share. Whether you like it or not. That's just what IS. NOT what you want it to be for your own purposes or concerns or sense of injustice or fears or agendas. It just reminds me of countless bickering sessions I've seen among the many different kinds of five-year-olds who've passed through my life.

And I get it - that you have to think three-to-85 steps ahead and strategize and consider the trendings and psychology and changing tastes of masses of people who'll be impacted, and how they might react. And you have to play Stratagema and Risk and poker and chess at several different levels, and try to observe, analyze, and anticipate as much as possible. And in this issue you're NOT just talking Israel and the Palestinians. You're talking everybody in the neighborhood. You're talking Syria and Iran and Iraq and Egypt and the Sinai and Jordan and Lebanon and Turkey and the Saudis and Yemen and the whole rest of it, and how they interplay and who their friends are. It's a many-headed mess.

But at the same time, WE need that money, too.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
16. This man is Constitutionally required to speak for all Americans on foreign affairs, all 320 million:
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 09:35 PM
Mar 2015


Does he appear angry? CNN? Wolf? Try as you might to make this about personalities....Obama thwarts you by being the adult and talking policy, rejecting cults of personality so dear to the media.

Not angry, determined.....

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
20. Yes, it's one or the other
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:01 PM
Mar 2015

The two national interests are not always the same.

The R's checked the upper box.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
29. I assume you're citing the R's motive in this stunt with Netanyahu
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 11:01 PM
Mar 2015

I suppose to a large extent their primary allegiance isn't to either the US or Israel.

ffr

(22,668 posts)
41. No truer words than those right there.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:49 AM
Mar 2015

They know their allegiance and their values. Money, profit, and self justified hypocrisy for whatever bends them on a daily basis.

But even though a sane person would point out their failures, they're quite proud of where they stand and they vote.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
21. Perfect!
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:19 PM
Mar 2015

I was thinking the same myself looking at all the ass kissing.

Congress forgets which is the World Power which would be up the creek without u$. Why are they pandering so hard?

Oh right! Any ally who can help in hating the President.

George II

(67,782 posts)
24. Sad that after 60+ years of supporting Israel unequivocally......
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:44 PM
Mar 2015

....the republicans have deteriorated it to the point of, in a sense, "either you're with us or you're against us". In their terms, you can't pick "all of the above"!



Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
27. I'm actually surprised
Tue Mar 3, 2015, 10:52 PM
Mar 2015

that no one has called this an 'anti-Semitic' thread yet. Are all of our I-side of the I/P fight posters on time out?

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
35. An Updated List of Vetoes Cast by the United States to Shield Israel...
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 07:31 AM
Mar 2015

...from Criticism by the U.N. Security Council

Prior to the Nixon administration, the United States had never employed its veto power in the U.N. Security Council. It was first used March 17, 1970 over Southern Rhodesia. The second U.S. veto came two years later, when Washington sought to protect Israel from a resolution condemning Israel for one of its attacks on its neighbors. Since then, the United States has cast its veto a total of 39 times to shield Israel from Security Council draft resolutions that condemned, deplored, denounced, demanded, affirmed, endorsed, called on and urged Israel to obey the world body.

Washington Report on Middle East Affairs


The list covers 1972 to 2004
 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
54. WOW.. that's a staggering statistic. wonder what the update from 2004 to present time would be..
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 11:17 PM
Mar 2015

just jaw dropping. thanks for posting.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
49. They both could have been included in the B option, but he was focusing on the one particular event,
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:50 PM
Mar 2015

so he narrowed it down.

 

TRoN33

(769 posts)
45. I pledge to the...
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 12:48 PM
Mar 2015

Undisputed peaceful world. No more borders. No more flags. We all are the one and same.

 

father founding

(619 posts)
46. gimee,gimee.gimee
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 12:52 PM
Mar 2015

When AIPAC is hanging out checks, there is no option, it's always the first one, time for a Project for a New American Government.

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