Ferguson Report 'gives hope that true change will come not only in Ferguson, but around the country'

[bigtree]

Amy @AmyStephen
That DOJ report on #DarrenWilson is like a poorly written high school report that combed all the information from the Wikipedia.


Department of Justice report on the Michael Brown shooting


Ferguson Police Department Report



Annotated summary of Justice Dept. report

[link:cspan video: http://www.c-span.org/video/?324667-1/attorney-general-eric-holder-ferguson-missouri-investigation |Attorney General Eric Holder spoke to reporters about the results of the Department of Justice’s investigation - C-span video]


Ryan J. Reilly ?@ryanjreilly 29m29 minutes ago
DOJ: #Ferguson appears to continue "to interfere with individuals’ rights to protest and record police activities.”




Ferguson right now...

Valerie Schremp Hahn ?@valeriehahn 43m43 minutes ago
Protesters blocking traffic outside #Ferguson Police Department. Some cats turning around.




Josh Marshall ?@JoshReporting 22m22 minutes ago
Ferguson right now.




KMOV ?@KMOV 17m17 minutes ago
RT @KMOVMatt 23 degrees and protesters gathering at Ferguson PD hours after DOJ reports.




KayRay ?@RE_invent_ED 6m6 minutes ago
If a picture is a worth a thousand words






ron fullwood @ronfullwood (bigtree)

[Downwinder]

1. There is always, "Hope."

[ReRe]

5. I see things differenty, unfortunately...

... seems to me like we just get false-hope after false-hope.

[Cha]

8. Yeah, sometimes moreso than others..

[rhett o rick]

2. The DoJ says that they will not hold the killer of Michael Brown accountable. Why am I not

surprised. Some here are all in a twitter that the DoJ said some great rhetoric, but the bottom like is that Darren Wilson got away with murder and that's that.

[Cha]

7. I think you are the one who is "all a twitter" with your knee jerkin' when you don't know

all the facts..

Pretty Foot @PrettyFootWoman
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Feds can’t charge Darren Wilson because the Supreme Court gutted civil rights law. By @mjs_DC http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/11/will_justice_department_charge_darren_wilson_supreme_court_gutted_civil.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_bot … via @slate

3:54 PM - 24 Feb 2015 Slate @Slate 18Retweets 3 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/02/25/a-tweet-or-two-248/

[brer cat]

9. Thank you for posting the link to the Slate article, Cha.

I would lift up the last paragraph:

Brown had the right to “life itself,” too. Wilson took it away—and there’s almost nothing the federal government can do about it. The KKK began its reign of terror in 1865. The brutal Selma assault on civil rights protesters occurred in 1965. And in 2014, we still don’t have a federal law to protect unarmed black boys from getting gunned down by cops in the street.

We need to put teeth back into Section 242 so the Feds can bring civil rights charges, but it won't happen with R's in control of congress and the SC.

[Cha]

10. Thank you, brer cat, for posting the end paragraph! I didn't have time when I replied.. it's so

important that we get another Democratic President after Obama! ... to have Federal recourse when a horribly, tragic Injustice happens as with Michael Brown.

[Cha]

13. And, of course, when this is pointed out to anyone whining that's it's Holder's fault.. they still

won't admit it. Typical ignorant emptiness.

[rhett o rick]

11. After the much todo about the DoJ going to Ferguson to investigate and Holder fails to come up with

a thing. Why even go? Just a big show with no results. He failed and Michael Brown's murder will go unpunished. No reason for cheering.

[bigtree]

14. cheering?

...this isn't 'cheer.' it's an acknowledgement of actions promised by the Justice Dept. to hold the Ferguson PD accountable for their racist shakedown schemes and their violence directed at the black community.

I've already noted in the op that the failure to prosecute is disappointing, but like Mike Brown's family, I'm encouraged by the Dept.'s findings and promise of further action. That's a process which still requires vigilance and follow-up by protesters, activists, and officials alike.

[rhett o rick]

16. Forgive my pessimism. I truly hope it works out but I am very skeptical.

I have over my years seen a lot of these "investigations". After the investigation comes the promise of actions. The actions usually include more training and a change to written policies (policies that weren't followed to begin with) and the firing of a couple of low level workers. This process will drag out for months until it's out of the public eye.

This is from an article at http://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-report-doj-not-charge-darren-wilson-michael-182106808--abc-news-topstories.html;_ylt=AwrTccSGGvpUhXwAJV0lnIlQ

With its findings now public, the Justice Department is likely to seek agreement from the Ferguson police department to implement serious changes to its practices. But if negotiations fail, then the Justice Department would likely file a civil lawsuit against the police force, hoping a federal judge will force the police department to enact appropriate changes.

The rhetoric includes phrases like, "is likely", "would likely", and "hoping a judge" will take appropriate actions.

The cheering comment wasn't directed at the OP. Thanks for posting.

[annm4peace]

3. what do the survivors receive ?

Will those who were charged have their records cleared?

Those who have had to pay fines will their get their money back and interest ?

Will they receive money because the arrests and charges and/or jail time cause the loss of their jobs ?

Will they get justice ?

[sabrina 1]

4. So no one is held accountable? This will be forgotten in a week. There is no strength in that

report. Nothing that says further action will be taken to correct the violations of rights by the Ferguson cops.

I heard today that the Ferguson PD would be shut down. So disappointing.

The biggest disappointment is that Wilson got off, AND McCullough.

No consequences for the lying 'witness' at the GJ.

No recommendations for a Federal GJ considering how corrupt the first one was.

I read stuff on Twitter and see videos like the one in the report on a regular basis.

So nothing is going to change, didn't really think it would.

[bigtree]

15. that's not correct

...this report is the basis for further action; both administratively and from the Justice Dept.; and from the courts, as well, as victims advantage themselves of the report's investigation and findings.

I don't think this is some panacea, but it's much more than the failure that you describe.

[rhett o rick]

17. Forgive me again, but what does, "the basis for further action" really mean? Did they commit to

taking substantive actions? I haven't seen it if they did. They might take further actions, is the best I got out of it.

[bigtree]

18. if Ferguson doesn't ake sufficient actions to address the bias and other report findings

...the Justice Dept. will reportedly sue for compliance.

If they don't agree to review and revise those tactics, sources say, the Justice Department would sue to force changes in the department...

The Justice Department action would ask for court supervision of changes at the Ferguson Police Department to improve how police deal with the minority communities they are supposed to protect.

Among the issues expected to be part of the Justice Department's lawsuit are allegations made in a recent lawsuit filed by a group of low-income people who claimed officers in Ferguson and nearby Jennings targeted minorities with minor traffic infractions and then jailed them when they couldn't pay fines.

[rhett o rick]

19. Well I certainly hope this promise pans out. nm

[bigtree]

20. vigilance reinforces hope

...continued protests and activism keep the heat on.

(some constructive cynicism doesn't hurt, can actually help guard against complacency)

[rhett o rick]

21. I agree. nm

[Jefferson23]

23. Yep. The report is powerful. n/t

[Cha]

6. AG Holder points out that Ferguson PD would arrest Black people because of "their manner of walking

down a roadway"

What racism looks like
10:36 AM - 4 Mar 2015 213 Retweets 91 favorites


TheObamaCAT @TheObamaCat
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Didn't need #FergusonReport to tell us what we experience every day but feels good to have it officially acknowledged
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http://theobamadiary.com/2015/03/04/a-tweet-or-two-253/

Mahalo for your OP, bigtree~ Excellent! There is Hope.. and I think Holder would have charged Wilson if the law allowed it.

Pretty Foot @PrettyFootWoman
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Feds can’t charge Darren Wilson because the Supreme Court gutted civil rights law. By @mjs_DC http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/11/will_justice_department_charge_darren_wilson_supreme_court_gutted_civil.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_bot … via @slate

3:54 PM - 24 Feb 2015 Slate @Slate

18 Retweets 3 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/02/25/a-tweet-or-two-248/

[rhett o rick]

12. Holder's report basically says there is a race problem in Ferguson, good luck with that. nm

[tblue37]

22. KnR. It's good to see you back and reporting on Ferguson again, bigtree! nt