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Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:34 AM Mar 2015

What is your real attitude toward the major political parties?


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I believe the Republican Party is the Party of Wall Street power and the 1% while the Democratic Party is the party that represents ordinary working people
1 (13%)
I believe the differences between the two parties and whose interest they represent are marginal at best
3 (38%)
I believe both parties represent Wall Street Power and the 1% - but the Republicans are so batshit crazy, so ideologically extreme about it in addition to their socially reactionary views and their dangerous neoconservative foreign policy that they make the Democrats relatively liberal and progressive in comparison
4 (50%)
Malt vinegar is preferable to catsup when serving proper French Fries or chips and mushy peas is a better side dish to fish and chips than cole slaw
0 (0%)
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What is your real attitude toward the major political parties? (Original Post) Douglas Carpenter Mar 2015 OP
Both suck. One just sucks a lot worse.... /nt think Mar 2015 #1
Well I hate malt vinegar AND mushy peas, so there's really only one option for me. NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #2
Close to #3, but not quite. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #3
+1 daleanime Mar 2015 #8
I'll roll with you TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #15
^ I go with this answer. nt TBF Mar 2015 #21
I believe in the Democratic Party! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #4
Don't hate the player, hate the game. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #5
No option for other? Cal Carpenter Mar 2015 #6
Both parties generally stink. bigwillq Mar 2015 #7
Mushy peas? BainsBane Mar 2015 #9
The DLC led dem party has become the republican party of yesteryear on point Mar 2015 #10
I believe I can fly Rex Mar 2015 #11
The differences between the two corporate parties are deliberate. woo me with science Mar 2015 #12
the differences are there to get people to vote for the similarities ... MisterP Mar 2015 #20
+ 1,000 - Well Said cantbeserious Mar 2015 #26
Pan Seared Salmon Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2015 #13
Salmon has never appealed to me. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #22
I'm not much into salmon, either. Dr Hobbitstein Mar 2015 #24
I don't "believe" or "believe in" anything 2naSalit Mar 2015 #14
The democratic party is like getting old. rogerashton Mar 2015 #16
The myth push that the 1% is a unified whole and you are powerless against it Johonny Mar 2015 #17
There is no myth that they're a unified whole. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2015 #23
Despite republican propaganda, there is a huge difference between parties! B Calm Mar 2015 #18
There is a story about Abe Lincoln being handed a mug of hot beverage in a busy meeting, taking a Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #19
anotehr Douglas Carpenter Mar 2015 #25
Pass - This one time I'll make a comment rock Mar 2015 #27

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
3. Close to #3, but not quite.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:41 AM
Mar 2015

I would add the changes below

I believe both parties represent Wall Street Power and the 1% - but the Republicans are so batshit crazy, so ideologically extreme about it in addition to their socially reactionary views and their dangerous neoconservative foreign policy that they make the (elected) Democrats seem relatively liberal and progressive in comparison


There are certainly actual liberal and progressive elected Democrats, although not nearly enough, and when you ask the rank and file about all sorts of liberal or progressive ideas, they are far more in agreement with liberal and progressive ideals, but as has been shown in an actual study, elected officials of both parties are almost always more conservative than the people they supposedly represent.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
5. Don't hate the player, hate the game.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:47 AM
Mar 2015

Both parties have to work within a capitalist superstructure that affects every relationship. The Democrats do their best to bend it on behalf of the have nots or have not so muchs, the Republicans not at all.

 

bigwillq

(72,790 posts)
7. Both parties generally stink.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 10:57 AM
Mar 2015

And both parties have contributed to this country's decline, imo. I don't think the two-party system works anymore since it's pretty much one-sided against the common American.
I generally support Democratic policies since they align more with my personal views, but I am not a huge fan of the current state of the Democratic party.

on point

(2,506 posts)
10. The DLC led dem party has become the republican party of yesteryear
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:07 AM
Mar 2015

The republican party has become the party of John Birchers, Theocrats and loons

There is no democratic party at national level anymore.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
12. The differences between the two corporate parties are deliberate.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:12 AM
Mar 2015

Both parties are owned by the One Percent, corporate interests. The parties deliberately diverge on social issues that are important to people but which the One Percent could not care less about, in order to blackmail people into voting for the predatory economic, war, and police state agenda that the One Percent DO care about and that the parties deliberately share.




http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6231259
Yes, that's certainly the Lesser of Two Evils Scam that corporatists in both parties keep using on us.

Red vs. Blue = Oligarchy Theater for the masses.

Mass spying on Americans? Both parties support it.
Handing the internet to corporations? Both parties support it.
Austerity for the masses? Both parties support it.
Cutting social safety nets? Both parties support it.
Corporatists in the cabinet? Both parties support it.
Tolling our interstate highways? Both parties support it.
Corporate education policy? Both parties support it.
Bank bailouts? Both parties support it.
Ignoring the trillions stashed overseas? Both parties support it.
Trans-Pacific Job/Wage Killing Secret Agreement? Both parties support it.
TISA corporate overlord agreement? Both parties support it.
Drilling and fracking? Both parties support it.
Wars on medical marijuana instead of corrupt banks? Both parties support it.
Deregulation of the food industry? Both parties support it.
GMO's? Both parties support it.
Privatization of the TVA? Both parties support it.
Immunity for telecoms? Both parties support it.
"Looking forward" and letting war criminals off the hook? Both parties support it.
Deciding torturers are patriots? Both parties support it.
Militarized police and assaults on protesters? Both parties support it.
Indefinite detention? Both parties support it.
Drone wars and kill lists? Both parties support it.
Targeting of journalists and whistleblowers? Both parties support it.
Private prisons replacing public prisons? Both parties support it.
Unions? Both parties view them with contempt.
Trillion dollar increase in nuclear weapons. Both parties support it.
New war in Iraq. Both parties support it.
New war in Syria. Both parties support it.
Carpet bombing of captive population in Gaza. Both parties support it.
Selling off swaths of the Gulf of Mexico for drilling? Both parties support it.
Drilling along the Atlantic Coast? Both parties support it.


BUT, we are reminded by sneering corporate Democrats, Republicans will do all of this to us, too, PLUS inflict transvaginal ultrasounds!

What a vicious scam by both parties to justify relentless, predatory evil. To demand that we vote for our own sellout and exploitation and the dismantling of our democracy itself.
 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
13. Pan Seared Salmon
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:22 AM
Mar 2015

Directions
Preheat a large heavy skillet over medium heat for 3 minutes.
Coat salmon with olive oil. Place in skillet, and increase heat to high. Cook for 3 minutes. Sprinkle with capers, and salt and pepper. ...
Transfer salmon to individual plates, and garnish with lemon slices.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
22. Salmon has never appealed to me.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:09 PM
Mar 2015

It's just too strong a taste. I far prefer a good cod or flounder, or tilapia. Orange Roughy was my fave, back before I found out they bottom-trawled for it, destroying the sea-bed ecosystems.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
24. I'm not much into salmon, either.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:42 PM
Mar 2015

The other night, I went to Publix to get Tilapia. I ask the fishmonger for a lb of tilapia. It was loud and busy. I turned away while she was packaging it up and didn't bother to check. Got home and realized that she gave me salmon (at salmon prices of course). Apparently, she misheard me. Too late, I thought. I cooked the salmon the way I was gonna do the tilapia. It wasn't terrible, but I'd have rathered tilapia or mahi.

2naSalit

(86,292 posts)
14. I don't "believe" or "believe in" anything
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:23 AM
Mar 2015

However, I do think that both parties are corrupted to the point of a near total collapse of the nation in our near future... that includes more 9/11 type attacks to make sure we still need a "leader" to protect/save us from the consequences of our past actions as a warring nation.

rogerashton

(3,920 posts)
16. The democratic party is like getting old.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 11:58 AM
Mar 2015

Makes me sick, causes pains in many body parts, but it still beats the alternative.

Johonny

(20,792 posts)
17. The myth push that the 1% is a unified whole and you are powerless against it
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:44 PM
Mar 2015

gets a little dull after awhile. Pushing helplessness doesn't motivate people to want political change it only motivates people to disengage from the process. Disengaged people lead to elections like last year. I listen and watch enough democrats to know many have solid integrity and care about the Americans that they represent. The most conservative Democratic candidates still seem to care about the process of governance in America.

The Republican party has enough disunity inside which demonstrates that while conservatives in the 1% have major influence on legislators, they clearly all don't want the same thing. What would improve American politics... a Republican party that cares about Governance. Will that happen anytime soon? I don't know. I honestly can't understand how 99.999% of Republicans get elected. They simply have nothing to offer their voters and more to the point do not even act like they want to be in office.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
23. There is no myth that they're a unified whole.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 04:11 PM
Mar 2015

1% is just a convenient rhetorical shorthand, useful in helping to pull together the general public.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
19. There is a story about Abe Lincoln being handed a mug of hot beverage in a busy meeting, taking a
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 12:47 PM
Mar 2015

sip and saying 'If this is coffee, please bring me some tea. If this is tea, please bring me some coffee'. I think that both hot beverages and political Parties are best when easily distinguished one from the other.

rock

(13,218 posts)
27. Pass - This one time I'll make a comment
Fri Mar 6, 2015, 01:03 PM
Mar 2015

When I see a poll and feel like passing I usually hit the x in the little red box that's in the upper right-hand corner of the window.

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