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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe NRA’s mocking tweet of Gabby Giffords is a new low:
I do not know what we--as a nation are coming to when I see this!
RT @Slate: The NRAs mocking tweet of Gabby Giffords is a new low: http://slate.me/1CDpIzQ pic.twitter.com/dKgDOSIOxN
Gabby Giffords, the former Arizona congresswoman grievously wounded in a 2011 shooting near Tucson that killed six people, returned to Capitol Hill this week to renew her push for legislation that would expand background checks for gun purchases to include gun shows and Internet sales. .......................
............ Stopping violence takes courage, she said. The courage to do whats right, the courage of new ideas.
Now is the time to come together and be responsible. Democrats, Republicans, everyone. We must never stop fighting. Fight, fight, fight. Be bold, be courageous, the nations counting on you.
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Here is how the National Rifle Association chose to respond to Giffords on Thursday:
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Gabby Giffords: Everyone Should Have to Pass Background Check My Attacker Passed http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/03/04/gabby-giffords-everyone-should-have-to-pass-background-check-my-attacker-passed/ #2A #NRA
9:20 AM - 5 Mar 2015
The NRA has of course tangled before with Americans for Responsible Solutions, the group that Giffords and her husband, astronaut Mark Kelly, created to push for common-sense gun law reforms, such as closing the gun show loophole for background checks. But as far as I can tell, this is the first time that the NRA has taken a personal swipe at Giffords, mocking her reform efforts by directly invoking the shooting that nearly killed her.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)spanone
(135,791 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Gun humpers are scumbags.
flamin lib
(14,559 posts)It takes a special kind of sick bastard . . .
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)To the DU posters in RKBA.
old guy
(3,283 posts)I doubt they have reached the bottom and won't anytime soon.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I'm pretty sure there are NRA members posting here. What's it going to take for you to quit this organization? How low does the NRA have to go before you tear up your membership card? How many more victims of gun violence have to blamed or shamed by the NRA before you scrape the sticker off your windshield and quit publicly proclaiming your loyalty to the NRA?
Silence in this case is not just consent, but support. If you claim you're going to reform the NRA from within, where are your results? What are the signs of progress? The NRA scraped through the bottom of the barrel years ago, got out a shovel and started digging. Their despicable public pronouncements hit rock bottom (or so many of us thought) and they got out a jackhammer and went even lower.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Most are not members.
I forego access to the closest gun range to my house, because they require membership in the NRA for application to membership in the range. I guess the NRA has worked out a deal where they underwrite the range's insurance policy or something along those lines, in exchange for requiring range members to apply to the NRA first.
Fuck em. I'll drive twice as far to not have to deal with that shit.
aikoaiko
(34,162 posts)And the incomprehensible hyperbole of the the ILA and Wayne LaPierre are nauseating.
Still, I consider myself working on the inside. Talking to a couple of Board of Directors who aren't clueless and voting for the least asshattish directors. There is talk about a different direction than the WLP strategy. Its not like people who quit or oppose the NRA have any better results than NRA members working on the inside.
Sadly, even those who want change in the NRA are stifled because the hyperbole works. Some thought the Sandy Hook response would be WLP's undoing, but he emerged stronger after crushing the suggested gun control measures.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I strongly urge you to consider what, if anything, is going to change the NRA, and how far you are willing to go to effect that change. They are getting toward Westboro Baptist Church levels of reprehensibility.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Let me get this straight.
Gun-bunnies are threatening to shoot a woman, who literally got shot in the face, because they disagree with her on firearms policy.
They sound like real winners!
mikeysnot
(4,756 posts)Gun nuts are thin skinned assholes, who would have thought?
Just go to any discussion on this site and you can see how low they go.
starroute
(12,977 posts)The NRA says so itself. That means the only alternative is radical solutions that will completely eradicate gun-nuttery.
We might start with an understanding that the whole "well-regulated militia" thing began with Anglo-Saxon concerns that the peasants should be sufficiently well equipped and trained to repel Viking raiders. I would suggest that any level of weaponry beyond what it takes to deal with a few dozen Vikings with broadswords should not be considered to enjoy Constitutional protections.
hack89
(39,171 posts)To see how we actually got the 2A (along with most of our BoR)
Romeo.lima333
(1,127 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)GGJohn
(9,951 posts)they just want some sensible gun laws passed, like the UBC law that failed in the Congress.
hack89
(39,171 posts)Response to riversedge (Original post)
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arcane1
(38,613 posts)Just because one person passes a check, that means everyone would?
Go back to your hole.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... the NRA was once a respectable sportsman's organization devoted to promoting responsible gun ownership. Then Wayne LaPierre happened. He actively recruited extremists of every stripe (witness his bromance with Ted Nugent), and established unholy alliances with firearms manufacturers. All that is utterly despicable about the NRA today can be traced back to that evil psychopath, whose most memorable quote might be, "...the guys with the guns make the rules!"
No decent person will mourn his passing. For the record, I am a life-long gun owner and hunter (ret.), who firmly supports universal background checks.
jimmy the one
(2,708 posts)The NRA should be reminded that lapierre-head once said this:
Weve always supported instant background checks, LaPierre sat at a Friends of NRA event in May 1999, .... "We say if it's a legitimate gun show -- and we define a gun show as 10 or more exhibitors -- you have to draw the line somewhere, and I think that's a -- the best way you can draw the line -- then we support the check," LaPierre said a month later during an interview on Fox News. Asked by the host whether the NRA was protecting gun shows, LaPierre said, "That's ridiculous
I mean, the fact is that we're supporting the bill in the Senate
that provides a check on every sale at every gun show, no loopholes at all." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/31/nra-gun-show-loophole_n_2593937.html
AND, surprise surprise, this from EGS: In 1999, the NRA's CEO, LaPierre, declared: "We believe in absolutely gun-free, zero tolerance, totally safe schools. That means no guns in America's schools, period."
An email I got from Everytown for Gun Safety (EGS), bloomberg's group: But it didn't take long for the NRA to completely abandon this common-sense position. Today, they're pushing dangerous bills in 23 states that would force guns into schools and onto college campuses all across the country -- even when opposed by school administrators.
It's part of the gun lobby's dangerous, backwards vision for our country that were calling Crazytown. And to Stop Crazytown, we're fighting back with Wayne LaPierres own words -- printed on a postcard that supporters will begin delivering to lawmakers all across the country who are considering these dangerous bills.
These NRA-backed bills would force public colleges and universities to allow people to carry loaded guns on campus and would even allow guns in K-12 schools. These bills do nothing to promote the safe learning environment that students need and deserve -- the same environment that the NRA once endorsed.
You and I know that the only people who need to be armed in schools are trained law enforcement and security guards. And college and university administrators should have the authority to decide what's best for the safety of students and faculty. This is just one part of the NRA's extremist agenda of "guns for anyone, anywhere, no questions asked."
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Because of shit like this. Yes, indeed. Wayne LaPierre has a *Lot* of explaining to do......
Archae
(46,301 posts)It's the Gun Sales Lobby.