I have NOT read the DOJ Ferguson report

[CatWoman]

I printed it out and started reading it, but I kept having to put it aside.

Much like when I read Roots.

Too much anger. Too much bullshit.

However, I do know that I don't have to read the entire report to conclude that Michael Brown was originally stopped for jaywalking. Fucking jaywalking. Which isn't a crime punishable by death.

I know, I know - the store video tape "shows" him shoplifting cigars and getting into the shop owners face.

Without the proper context, I can't say if he is guilty of those "crimes", as he was never tried and/or convicted for said "crimes".

But I do know that shoplifting isn't a crime punishable by death either.

And although hundreds of other black citizens where stopped, ticketed and/or harassed for petty crimes, this particular stop resulted in the needless death of Michael Brown.

Which brings us to the present.

All of this information wouldn't have become public knowledge about the sleaze that inhabits that city if it weren't for this boy's death.

I hope this takes some of the glee out of the Wilson/Ferguson PD apologists.

But I doubt it.

It makes me feel a bit better, tho.

I also hope Brown's mother can take solace in the fact that her son's death may help bring much needed change to the oppressed citizens of that city.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

1. He was executed by a scared shit less cop who had no business doing anything until back up arrived

What was being risked if the kids ran off before back up arrived, jaywalker gets away?

[Jackpine Radical]

2. This whole terrible affair must be especially painful for you,

as a mother who has lost a child.

Let us hope that Michael Brown's death, although needless, not be meaningless. And may we as a society work to ensure that end.

[CatWoman]

3. ...

[Jackpine Radical]

9. Indeed, my dear.

You have been so brave through all this.

I confess to having tears overflowing in my eyes right now.

There is so much pain in the world, and sometimes my nerve endings feel like they're connected to all of it.

[pintobean]

4. A report on a report that you didn't read.

This should be very helpful.

Like Holder said, everyone should read the report.

https://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/doj-report-on-shooting-of-michael-brown.pdf

[CatWoman]

5. as I stated, I began reading the report

but as of this date, have not completed it.

I have, however, read the numerous threads with excerpts published here and on other blogs.

Especially those threads in which you continually lick the boots of the Ferguson PD.

You're welcome for my help.

[pintobean]

10. Those were Holder's boots

and I didn't lick them, you spit on them.

[LittleBlue]

17. This debate doesn't make sense anymore

He just told you to read a report. Why are you so angry at what he said?

[rhett o rick]

6. I read the report. Mr. Wilson was found justified by the law. He put himself into that position

like a lot of these cops do. How many times have you heard them claim that someone was trying to run over them or they thought that they were going toward their waste band. They are allowed to kill with impunity and they will continue. The DoJ might do something in Ferguson but I doubt it will be totally effective. They need to see that the top echelon resigns. Firing, or coercing a couple of low level employees into resigning, won't cut it.

[Rex]

19. Yep, cops know they can murder someone and get away with it.

And most definitely in a town that has the local power structure controlled by racist cops, backed by a racist DA. If anything, Holder needs to hold the top people responsible. I totally agree.

How many years have we been saying cops get away with murder? We use to get a chorus of apologists, but with so many stories of police brutality - seems like it is down to just a few now.

[pintobean]

20. You're still calling McCulloch a racist

even though Holder's DOJ report vindicated him and the grand jury.

[Rex]

21. Well ignore or alert is your friend.

Like I said, don't give two shits what you think. Holder was not the DA in the case and was not there first hand. You can keep pretending the two people are the same all you want to.

The DA in the Wilson case is a racist POS, alert and I will take my chances.

[pintobean]

22. What makes you think

that I would want to alert?

The point is - Holder and McCulloch have both reviewed all the same evidence and have both come to the same conclusion; Wilson did not violate any laws. Neither saw any reason to prosecute. Somehow, in your mind, that makes one of them a racist.

[Rex]

23. So you can read minds now?

You can support a racist POS DA all you want to, I really don't care. Holder did not try the case, so keep pretending they are one and the same. First hand and third hand information are not the same pintobean.

Nice try, like I said keep supporting a racist POS DA all you want to. Like I give a shit.

[pintobean]

26. Nobody tried the case

Neither authority saw any reason to take it to trial.

Neither Holder, nor McCulloch had first hand information. That would mean they were there at the shooting. Both entities had investigators collect all the evidence and do their interviews. They shared all of it. They came to the same conclusions.

You keep saying that McCulloch is a racist. My question is simple. What makes him a racist?

He's a Democrat, and he's been winning his elections for Prosecutor in landslides since 1990. He gets the black vote, and he got it in last November's election, when he got over 95% of the vote. What is it that you think you know about the man that the majority of black voters in St. Louis County don't know?

[Rex]

35. He could have actually tried and made a case against Wilson?

Holder did not try the case and to pretend he was there first hand and would have done everything the same is dishonest but expected by you.

Yeah I know you cannot handle my opinion that McCulloch is a racist, sucks don't it?

[pintobean]

38. I can handle it

You can't justify it. Sucks don't it?

Six months of ignoring the things that didn't support the conclusions drawn in the first couple of days may have been a mistake, don't you think? Maybe an open mind in the future will prevent what is happening now.

[Rex]

39. Doesn't seem like it, you seem very angry.

I justified it in my title, maybe you just can't read that well?

I guess you wouldn't know anything about having an open mind, you prove time and again you like yours closed.

[rhett o rick]

27. McCulloch's conduct with the Grand Jury was very suspect. Hard to imagine someone

in his position that wasn't part of the racist culture.

[Rex]

37. Not hard for some people.

He didn't even try to make a case against Wilson. He was on his side from day one. Let the 'concerned' here have their way, everyone sees them for what they are.

[rhett o rick]

25. Do you have a Holder quote that vindicates McCulloch? I don't doubt you just

don't remember that.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

34. Holder really annoys some folks. I can see why, telling the truth about racists is tough

business

Too bad Holder cant prove that yes Wilson was afraid for his life, but WHY

we all know why

Because Wilson is a racist who went after black people for no reason whenever he saw them


How the AfAm community hasnt burned down MO is amazing to me

Reverse these roles and white people would have ten times over

[NaturalHigh]

55. "How the AfAm community hasnt burned down MO is amazing to me"...

Seriously?

Some days I honestly can't believe the things I read here.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

61. and you said you learned something new, hardly

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

29. He is a racist as are all the cops in Ferguson, clear as day.

DOJ would have had to prove Wilson was NOT in fear for his life

Impossible to prove, Wilson was afraid the moment he saw those kids in the street

To Wilson , Brown and Dorian are "giant negro's run amok" (do a little research and you can learn what that means)

He executed the kid because he started a fight, like Zimmerman , for no reason, then finished it by killing the kid because they are punk ass crybabies shitting their pants.

[pintobean]

32. Read the report.

If you want to save time, start on page 80

1. Shooting at the SUV

and continue reading from there.

https://cbsstlouis.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/doj-report-on-shooting-of-michael-brown.pdf

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

33. All racists and all Wilson had to do to be OK with some folks is fear for his life, which I am sure

he did.

Brown was black, Wilson fears all blacks especially the ones he has created an issue with that didnt need to be created.

Especially the blacks he and his friends have violated their civil rights daily, no wonder he was afraid, I would have been to

[Rex]

40. Seems when you say, 'cops can get away with murder' because it is a proven fact.

Is a dogwhistle for a certain type of poster. Who could have guessed?

[pintobean]

45. I'm guessing you still haven't read the report

and won't.

[Rex]

46. Burp.

[pintobean]

49. That's what I thought.

More brilliance from Rex.

[Rex]

50. Fart.

[pintobean]

41. That's ridiculous speculation

unless you have evidence to base it on. DOJ couldn't find any.

I take it you don't want to bother with the report. You seem to think you already have everything figured out.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

42. DOJ said there was no racism? Or they couldnt prove it, you do know the ocean of difference I hope?

I Read the report

Bottom line is DOJ cant prove Wilson wasnt shitting his pants in fear

I agree that he probably was, deserved to be

You cant win this argument, one of us is on the side of justice and resolving the issue of racism in america and the other is grasping at any straw to deny it exists

[Rex]

47. Let him, it is at least amusing to watch.

The "Gee I have no idea what you mean" act is old and stale. I guess he forgets I watched him do it in META for years.

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

63. I am using someone else's pic for my sig that I saw on this board, I merely took the pic as a jpeg

our friend is accusing me of hotlinking? (i dont recall if I asked the person or not if I could, assume I did)

I wont respond to him but did I do something wrong?

I think it is from somebody's photobucket

I realize it is just a way for someone who has lost the argument to change the subject, but I dont want to do anything untoward

[pintobean]

48. I'm the one grasping at straws?

I'm in agreement with the grand jury and the DOJ. You're injecting shit that there's absolutely no evidence of. You're right, I can't win that argument.

[pintobean]

62. Are you hotlinking to another DUer's image

for your sig line? If you are doing that without permission, you're stealing bandwidth.

[spanone]

7. k&r...

[Jack Rabbit]

8. In memory of Mike Brown . . .

Let's hope the people of Ferguson register to vote and put the city fathers on notice that it's a new day in that town and in St. Louis County.

That it isn't OK to have a member of the city council who once helped beat a detainee and then charged the man for damaging city property when his blood splattered on their uniforms.

That it's not OK to use the city's citizens as an ATM machine.

That it's not OK for the DA to deliberately throw the case against the cop who gunned down Mike Brown.

[Cha]

12. Very well done, Cat~ My hope is the same for the People of Ferguson, MO. Here's why the Feds

weren't able to charge Wilson.. bc SCOTUS gutted civil rights law..

"Brown had the right to “life itself,” too. Wilson took it away—and there’s almost nothing the federal government can do about it. The KKK began its reign of terror in 1865. The brutal Selma assault on civil rights protesters occurred in 1965. And in 2014, we still don’t have a federal law to protect unarmed black boys from getting gunned down by cops in the street."

Pretty Foot @PrettyFootWoman
Follow
Feds can’t charge Darren Wilson because the Supreme Court gutted civil rights law. By @mjs_DC http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2014/11/will_justice_department_charge_darren_wilson_supreme_court_gutted_civil.html?wpsrc=sh_all_dt_tw_bot … via @slate

3:54 PM - 24 Feb 2015 Slate @Slate 18Retweets 3 favorites

http://theobamadiary.com/2015/02/25/a-tweet-or-two-248/

Michael Brown

[CatWoman]

13. ah

thanks for the info, Cha!!

[Cha]

14. You're most welcome, Cat.. I've been passing it around.. mostly for those who are raging on Holder..

but, I thought you'd like to know, too.. If you didn't already.

[LeftOfWest]

57. Outstanding info as usual Cha

EVERYBODY needs to read those links.

I confess I have forgotten about Slate!

Many thanks.

[Cha]

58. Mahalo, LeftOfWest!

Thank you for catching this!

[LeftOfWest]

59. I'll be on the ObamaDiary for awhile

Love to read FLOTUS, she is brilliant.

I have Fannie Lou Hamer's picture with her quote "I'm sick and tired of being sick and tired" front and center on my 'wall of fame' (also known as the refrigerator/ice box). She rocked the world while she was here, no doubt. A true voice and force.

More of her excellent words here:
http://www.africanamericanquotes.org/fannie-lou-hamer.html



And from the Slate Article Justice Murphy's dissent is outstanding and correct:

"Writing in dissent, Justice Frank Murphy insisted that Screws’ victim had a right to “life itself”:

"That right was his because he was an American citizen, because he was a human being. As such, he was entitled to all the respect and fair treatment that befits the dignity of man, a dignity that is recognized and guaranteed by the Constitution. Yet not even the semblance of due process has been accorded him. … Too often unpopular minorities, such as Negroes, are unable to find effective refuge from the cruelties of bigoted and ruthless authority. … [W]here, as here, the states are unwilling for some reason to prosecute such crimes the federal government must step in unless constitutional guarantees are to become atrophied."

And of course it is followed by the despicable facts in the quote you posted, from 1865 KKk to Selma, still no Federal Law to protect unarmed black boys in this country from being gunned down for being unarmed black boys and men in this country.



Thank YOU Cha and Mahalo back to you! Depressing like CatWoman says. More than depressing.

[Cha]

60. the Obama Diary is doing excellent work as always on Selma today, LOWest.. Mahalo for

Fanny Lou Hamer's quotes!

It's unbearably sad that there are still no Fed Laws to protect our unarmed African Americans from being gunned down in this country.

Michael Brown

[myrna minx]

15. CatWoman, when you speak up, I always listen.

You always bring the truth. I also know from reading DU over the years, that you are a Mother who had to endure outliving her Daughter. I can only imagine your empathy from one mom to another. All of my best to you.

[CatWoman]

16. thank you MM

[babylonsister]

18. I haven't read it either, because

I don't want to. The whole thing was abhorrent, start to finish, as I watched it unfold.

You, I love, and never considered how this might impact you. For that I'm sorry.

It would be wonderful if something good came of his death; I think it already has, as far as awareness finally, may it continue!

[KG]

24. don't have to read the report to know something is deeply wrong there and other places

what i want to know is - what now?

[Man from Pickens]

28. who needs to read the report?

the paramilitary response to the protests is all you need to know about how the relationship between the police and the community

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

30. The African American community, in America, are seen as problems by almost ALL

police departments and sheriff departments.

When we figure out what to do about that, we will get somewhere.

Ferguson is certainly not the exception.

[Rex]

51. I agree 100%

Got to the the Good Old Boys club out of law enforcement.

[azmom]

31. Feeling your pain.

It's a daily struggle. Stay strong.

[pnwmom]

36. Well said. Thank you, CatWoman. n/t

[malaise]

43. K &R

Great post

[WillowTree]

44. Apparently you don't see the contradiction created by the fact that.......

.......you can't comment on Brown's guilt or innocence in the convenience store incident because you weren't there and he was never convicted, but you're perfectly comfortable determining that Wilson is absolutely guilty and with malice when you also weren't present for that incident either, and unlike the one from the convenience store, there isn't a security camera video of that confrontation and Wilson has never been convicted of anything.......or even indicted.

Just an observation. Carry on.

[CatWoman]

52. no I don't

and yes, I will.

Thanks for your concern.

[NaturalHigh]

54. So you admit to the contradiction?

Are you saying that a double standard is cool in this case?

[CatWoman]

56. no

+1

[NaturalHigh]

53. +1