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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:30 PM Mar 2015

Jeb Bush Sounds Off On Obamacare 'Monstrosity' In Iowa

Jeb Bush launched an attack on Obamacare when asked a question about health care and rural areas Saturday during a trip to Iowa as he explores a 2016 presidential bid.

"We've created a monstrosity of consolidating power in Washington, D.C., suppressing wages, making it uncertain for investment. In fact, the greatest job suppressor in the so-called recovery that we've gone through is Obamacare," Bush said in a Q&A at the 2015 Iowa Ag Summit. "And I think replacing Obamacare with a market oriented approach that is — where local and state input starts to drive the policies away from this top down system."

From there the potential Republican candidate offered up a variety of common conservative talking points on health care, but ended by endorsing one idea — government-subsidized catastrophic coverage.

"The effort by the state, by the government, ought to be to try to create catastrophic coverage, where there relief in families in this country that if you have a hardship that goes way beyond your means of paying for it, that you have a — the government is there or an entity is there to help you deal with that," Bush said.

Bush didn't use the word "repeal" when talking about the health care law, as many Republicans still do.

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http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/jeb-bush-obamacare

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Jeb Bush Sounds Off On Obamacare 'Monstrosity' In Iowa (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
don't we already have a market oriented approach onethatcares Mar 2015 #1
Monstrosity is Right. All Right. Octafish Mar 2015 #2
JEB's biggest problem among conservatives is that he a multi-generation DC insider GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #3

onethatcares

(16,131 posts)
1. don't we already have a market oriented approach
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:37 PM
Mar 2015

that already excludes those that can't pay for it, whereas Obamacare (i love that term)helps those that can't afford it.

The pukes will never get it right, ever.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
2. Monstrosity is Right. All Right.
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 04:40 PM
Mar 2015
Pruneface Ron Reagan called President Kennedy a SOCIALIST in 1961 for proposing universal health care.



Operation COFFEECUP - How Reagan Worked to Stop Universal Health Coverage in 1961

In December 1961, the AMA pulled out all the stops to prevent President John F. Kennedy from proposing universal health coverage. For their effort, they recruited a TV-personality.

Write those letters now. Call your friends, and tell them to write them. If you don't, this program I promise you will pass just as surely as the sun will come up tomorrow. And behind it will come other federal programs that will invade every area of freedom as we have known it in this country, until, one day . . . we will awake to find that we have so­cialism. And if you don't do this, and if I don't do it, one of these days, you and I are going to spend our sunset years telling our children, and our children's children, what it once was like in America when men were free.


Sounds familiar to Tea Party crapola of today. Ironic: Corporate McPravda avoids mentioning how one has-been B-movie actor took part in the organized opposition to Medicare in the early 1960s. Here's the story, thanks to Mr. Scott E. Starr:



The Campaign Against Medicare

Monday, March 22, 2010
By Scott E. Starr

EXCERPT...

In order to maintain the illusion of spontaneity, the AMA did not announce the existence of Operation Coffeecup or publicize the Reagan recording. The record was to be used, campaign organizers cautioned, only in the groups meeting under the controlled conditions of the informal coffees. Under no circumstances, recipients of the record were warned, were they to permit commercial broadcast of the recording.

Operation Coffeecup was kept deliberately low-key and internal to the AMA, its Woman’s Auxiliary, and the trusted friends and neighbors of the Auxiliary women. Reagan’s efforts against Medicare were revealed, however, in a scoop by Drew Pearson in his Washington Merry-Go-Round column of June 17th. Pearson titled his item on Reagan, “Star vs. JFK,” and he told his readers:

Ronald Reagan of Hollywood has pitted his mellifluous voice against President Kennedy in the battle for medical aid for the elderly. As a result it looks as if the old folks would lose out. He has caused such a deluge of mail to swamp Congress that Congressmen want to postpone action on the medical bill until 1962. What they don’t know, of course, is that Ron Reagan is behind the mail; also that the American Medical Association is paying for it.

Reagan is the handsome TV star for General Electric . . . Just how this background qualifies him as an expert on medical care for the elderly remains a mystery. Nevertheless, thanks to a deal with the AMA, and the acquiescence of General Electric, Ronald may be able to outinfluence the President of the United States with Congress.24
Reagan’s recorded remarks are quite extensive, and reveal a determined and in-depth attack on the principles of Medicare (and Social Security), going well beyond opposition to King-Anderson or any other particular piece of legislation.
My name is Ronald Reagan. I have been asked to talk on the several subjects that have to do with the problems of the day. . .

Now back in 1927 an American socialist, Norman Thomas, six times candidate for president on the Socialist Party ticket, said the American people would never vote for socialism. But he said under the name of liberalism the American people would adopt every fragment of the socialist program. . . .

But at the moment I'd like to talk about another way because this threat is with us and at the moment is more imminent. One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It's very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. . . . Now, the American people, if you put it to them about socialized medicine and gave them a chance to choose, would unhesitatingly vote against it. We have an example of this. Under the Truman administration it was proposed that we have a compulsory health insurance program for all people in the United States, and, of course, the American people unhesitatingly rejected this.25


And what was this frightful threat that Reagan perceived as “imminent”?

. . . Congressman Forand introduced the Forand Bill. This was the idea that all people of Social Security age should be brought under a program of compulsory health insurance. Now, this would not only be our senior citizens, this would be the de­pendents and those who are disabled, this would be young peo­ple if they are dependents of someone eligible for Social Security. . . .


It should be obvious that Reagan’s description of the Forand bill is a description of any Medicare-type program, not just a specific piece of legislation.26 The idea that people of “Social Security age should be brought under a program of compulsory health insurance,” just is the idea of Medicare.

CONTINUED...

http://geotheology.blogspot.com /



If you get a chance, the geotheology blog continues with details on Operation COFFEECUP. The American Medical Association bankrolled the "mellifluous voice" of the malodorous monster, Ol' Pruneface.

PS: I bring this all up because so many believe history started only yesterday. The rightwing warmongers and greedheads have been organized for a long time. They've demonized liberals like me and my political heroes as socialists and communists. The nation has devolved politically to the point where even the leaders of our own party run away from the word, "Liberal." It's past time America realizes supporting the causes of the rich helped launch the political career of America’s first presidential Reverse Robin Hood.



Monster, all Right.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
3. JEB's biggest problem among conservatives is that he a multi-generation DC insider
Sat Mar 7, 2015, 06:13 PM
Mar 2015

who's father and brother presided over expansions of government size and power.

I look for John Bush* to continue to try and distance himself from his past and avoid any of the divisive inter-GOP discussions about the Bush "kinder gentler" government expansions that followed their beloved Reagan's downsizing.


* I have trouble calling him Jeb Bush since JEB is an acronym of John Ellis Bush. Saying "Jeb Bush" is like saying John Ellis Bush Bush.

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