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Sigma Alpha Epsilon
There will never be a n***** at SAE. You can hang him from a tree, but hell never sign with me. There will never be a n***** at SAE.
Cheerfully sung on the bus.
video and article at this site:
http://jaybookman.blog.ajc.com/2015/03/09/out-of-oklahoma-fraternity-nine-seconds-of-racism-hatred/
The video captures members of a University of Oklahoma fraternity, dressed in formal wear and accompanied by their dates, riding on a bus either to or from an event. They are singing to the tune of If Youre Happy And You Know It. They do seem happy; they do seem to know it. But the lyrics have been changed.
Some news accounts have referred vaguely to those revised lyrics as a racist chant, but that strips it of its chilling power.
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Nine seconds, but it tells you a lot.
For example, its not one person chanting. Its a collective action, expressing a group sentiment. And clearly, this wasnt the first time the group had sung this song. It was familiar enough to those in attendance that they didnt need to be taught the words. You have to wonder how many years, decades, even generations that song had been sung within SAE before it was exposed to the world.
Clearly, those leading and participating in the chant had no fear of social disapproval from their friends on the bus. To the contrary, the power of social conformity was being put to quite another use. The chant was reinforcing a social norm within SAE, putting every member on notice about what was acceptable to its members, and what was not
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)Frat boys...yuck...
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)When will Americans get over their civil war? It ended over 150 years ago.
At a certain point people have to realize that the slave-owning side lost the war. At least that is what the history I read claimed.
Will you ever get over it?
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)It's time for these bigoted miscreants to get over it and grow up.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)would explain why they keep fighting it.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,153 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,587 posts)that can turn ugly in a hurry. Shut the chapter down, but what are the other frats doing? That can't be a one-off kind of incident.
johnp3907
(3,730 posts)They must've felt like this was a relatively safe thing to do. And of course it's only 9 seconds of video. What happens that doesn't get recorded or gets recorded but we don't see?
By the way, I just noticed your sig line. My wife gave me this shirt for xmas:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/82715426/cat-and-guitar-t-shirt-two-means-of?ref=listing-shop-header-1
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,587 posts)As to the frats, the mob mentality takes over (maybe more among young men than other groups but I don't know if that's always true) when guys see their buddies doing something they might not consider doing on their own; but seeing others do it validates the act. Then they kind of feed on each other and if nobody says or does anything to stop it, they just keep going.
salin
(48,955 posts)according to TPM. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sigma-alpha-epsilon-oklahoma-racist-video
But - according to rw media and some GOPers.... Obama is the root cause of racial division in this country. Perhaps, just not in the way that the rw media and GOPers imply/suggest.
These kids are gross. Not just a racist chant - but one that invokes the horrific violence of lynching.
BumRushDaShow
(128,452 posts)It's an age old, multi-generational problem. And the irony is that in this era of mass communications, the internet, and "social media". with an incredible ability to reach across the nation and the world to interact with others "instantly" and real-time, using either or both audio and video (I know a large number of DUers probably remember the days of having "Pen Pals" from overseas and corresponding with them via "air mail" , it is a testament to how despite the available technology, people still often drift towards "self-imposed" isolation. It's definitely a human trait and is probably something that will never be completely eradicated. All you can do is mitigate it if it has a negative impact on the whole of a society.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)The huge race riot in Tulsa that destroyed most of the black community in 1921.
The lynchings throughout it's history.
Hekate
(90,556 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)are published.
edbermac
(15,933 posts)You can see the head cheerleader a little clearer in this one.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/03/09/lv-banfield-sae-racist-bus-song.cnn
cwydro
(51,308 posts)everywhere.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Creepy and just as ignorant and hateful.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Probably has a future with fox.
moondust
(19,958 posts)Among them probably some well-connected executives and oligarchs of the not-too-distant future. You know, the good guys who deserve to become rich and powerful, lording over the lazy moochers.
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)University of Oklahoma, Grad. College, class of 2011
fishwax
(29,148 posts)During Native American Heritage week they stole a teepee that had been erected on campus and tried to set it up in front of a sorority house. I think it was 1996 or so.