my local gannett morning rag compares Hillary to nixon....

[spanone]

fuck 'em

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[Capt. Obvious]

1. Technically Nixon was guilty of nothing

[Art_from_Ark]

4. Guilty of nothing except the coverup of a political break-in

And, of course, there's a reason why he had to give his famous "Checkers" speech back in the early '50s.

He was seen as a crook, even back then.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. He wasn't prosecuted because the powers that be couldn't envision a president in prison

Forty of his underlings were indicted or jailed. I doubt a jury, especially a Washington D C jury, would have had a hard time finding him guilty of obstruction of justice.

[Capt. Obvious]

10. Technically Nixon was guilty of nothing

[Art_from_Ark]

12. Technically guilty of nothing?

Then why did he resign in disgrace and have his vice president pardon him immediately?

[Capt. Obvious]

13. To avoid impeachment of course

But technically, Nixon isn't a crook.

[Art_from_Ark]

17. He couldn't have been impeached after he resigned

The pardon that was given immediately after his resignation was a sure sign that he had done something very crooked.

And, of course, there were the tapes that had not been erased.

And the break-in of the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist.

[Capt. Obvious]

19. See?

Technically he's not a crook.

[Art_from_Ark]

22. OK, technically he wasn't a crook

But he certainly did a heck of an impersonation of a crook.

[Man from Pickens]

42. which brings us full circle

technically Hillary may not yet officially be a crook, but she's doing a world-class impersonation of one

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Crook is a generic term. There is no adjudication from a court a person is a "crook".

[spanone]

26. no, he was a crook. a major crook.

[Capt. Obvious]

38. Technically, no

And O.J. is not a murderer.

[spanone]

45. in reality. yes.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. In my comments I forgot about the pardon.

That's like forgetting your head is attached to your neck.

[leftofcool]

28. LOl!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. I believe it's the only prospective pardon in the history of American jurisprudence.

Not only was the person being pardoned not convicted of a crime he wasn't even indicted of one

[lame54]

20. that's like saying the bankers aren't guilty because they haven't been prosecuted

[Capt. Obvious]

21. Technically they're not

[lame54]

25. is forgery legal now?

[Capt. Obvious]

37. No, why?

[Man from Pickens]

44. Robosigning

massive crime affecting huge numbers of people... no prosecution, no resolution

BUT the perps are privileged elites, and the law does not apply to them because it's on their payroll

[Cosmic Kitten]

2. Was Hillary involved in the Nixon investiation?

Thought I read something that she had
some involvement on the prosecution side?

But yeah, erasing tapes is nothing like
erasing emails... effem if they can't deal.

[Capt. Obvious]

3. She did

In 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.[56] Under the guidance of Chief Counsel John Doar and senior member Bernard Nussbaum,[37] Rodham helped research procedures of impeachment and the historical grounds and standards for impeachment.[56] The committee's work culminated in the resignation of President Richard Nixon in August 1974.[56

Wiki

[Cosmic Kitten]

6. WHAT? This is surreal

WTF

I'm starting to think she wants to be unelectable?

Maybe it's the only way to get those pushing her
to run for office off her back?

Is she too indebted to just say no, so she's going
to make herself a unelectable as a way out?

[geek tragedy]

7. Except that the white house tapes were evidence of criminal wrongdoing

and they were by definition not private communications

but nice try though.

[Cosmic Kitten]

9. We don't know what emails were deleted

There is no evidence of illegality.
But an abundance of evidence for
poor judgement, and arrogance.

Since the emails were deleted we may never know
the full extent of her record as SOS.

While emails to US.gov accounts are archived
there is no such archive for emails to
FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS.

As SoS, Hillary undoubtedly communicated
with foreign leaders and representatives.
How will we discover those emails?

Arguable those emails would be the most
critical and contain some vital information
which may provide context for things like...
the attacking of Libya?

[geek tragedy]

11. Sorry, no fishing expedition for you or Trey Gowdy.

[Cosmic Kitten]

14. If there is nothing to hide, turn over the server

She commingled her Government work
with her private life.
That alone is a colossal fail.

She opened herself up to this
it didn't "happen" to her.

She needs to be open and honest to retain
any credibility as a presidential candidate.

[geek tragedy]

16. You and Trey Gowdy and Scott Walker and Reince Priebus can chant

that to your heart's content

When Scott Walker and Jeb Bush turn over their personal emails for partisan fishing expeditions, then we'll talk

[Cosmic Kitten]

24. Ok, the personal attacks are done

I'll respectfully ask you to end your personal attacks.

Delete the reference to the republicans, and we are done.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. It seems your interlocutor is only suggesting some people who might share your interest.

As an unbiased observer I don't see anything inherently nefarious about his or her observation and consequent suggestion.

[Cosmic Kitten]

29. Hmm? You don't find it disrespctable?

You find it acceptable to compare Democrats
with republican figures we all find loathsome?

I find it odd that you would defend such comparisons,
which are plainly intended as a personal attack?

I find the association with those republicans
rude, and as a smear by association.
Clearly it's an attempt to besmirch my character
through comparison to people who are not
respected in our community.

[geek tragedy]

31. so says the person comparing Clinton to Nixon nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. You raise an interesting point./NT

[Cosmic Kitten]

35. You don't seen to know what a personal attack is?

YOU are being rude and insensitive towards me.
That is a TOS violation.

[geek tragedy]

40. See the "alert" button at the bottom of every post?

You are free to use it. But please do tell us whether you are claiming that your rhetoric on this nontroversy matches those of elected Democrats and not elected Republicans.

You have not claimed that thus far.

[geek tragedy]

30. can you name any prominent democrats

comparing this to Watergate?

[Cosmic Kitten]

32. Delete your personal attack if you want to continue

[geek tragedy]

34. I made no personal attack. It is generally Republicans who are flogging this

and calling it a 'scandal' and proclaiming it as a disqualifier to her serving in office.

Are you denying that your comments generally are more consistent with what elected Republicans are saying than they are with what elected Democrats are saying?

[steve2470]

5. oh please

I lived and breathed Watergate from 1972 to 1974. Ms. Clinton is a freaking saint compared to RMN.

[spanone]

23. i'm with you there steve.

[KingCharlemagne]

36. Yeah, I'm no big fan of HRC because of policy and ideological differences, but FFS - Nixon

ordered the CIA to obstruct an FBI investigation (among other crimes). Nothing HRC has done or even allegedly done remotely approaches that ignominious threshhold.

[FSogol]

41. +1 Well said. n/t

[YarnAddict]

43. Hillary Clinton has been investigated six ways to Sunday for years,

and nothing has been found to tie her to any scandals.

(Of course, the same can be said for Scott Walker, so . . .)

[SidDithers]

46. And so are some DUers...

by trying to conflate Watergate with Hillary's e-mails.

Sid