Ferguson Shooters? How the Hell...

[busterbrown]

have they not been apprehended by now? Seems to me that if anyone in the crowd witnessed the shooters they would have done the best they can to help police catch these guys.. I mean 99% of the people at this vigil would have quickly realize that this shooting would immediately be used against them, and in my opinion would have taken some sort of action to help police.. Not trying to physically catch them but certainly help identify..Cars, faces, clothing etc.

The same goes for the Ferguson Community as a whole.. It would be impossible to believe that anyone would do anything to help these guys, in fact my feelings are the 99% of the residents would give them up in a second..

No... My feelings are that the shooters are not from Ferguson and very well could be Right Wing Agitators who were there to cause as much Chaos to the ongoing story as possible..

Just my opinion...opinion only..

[bravenak]

1. I think they mat be right wing militia folks.

Just an opinion. Be easy to get away with it since the cops in Ferguson only know how to investigate black people jaywalking or playing bball. I remember the DC snipers and how they shot from the trunck of the car. They were kinda right wing militia-y.

[NM_Birder]

4. the DC snipers were a couple of black guys, one crazy and one easily manipulated

that shot innocent white AND black people.

How does this comparison help prove that white cops are racist, and are murdering the black youth of Ferguson ?

[NOLALady]

2. I must agree.

Just, IMHO!

[pintobean]

3. Many of the protesters

are not from Ferguson and some are agitators.

That said, I think most of the protesters are good people and are helping as much as possible. The thing is, when shots are fired like that, everyone takes cover. The getaway happened when everyone was wondering if the shooting was over. The shooter had the advantage of everyone being in front of them. Finish shooting, turn the other way and run while everyone is in wtf mode.

[busterbrown]

7. The small crowd was mostly from ferguson..

People duck and cover, but their eyes are wide open so they know where to hide or run...In this case there was nothing to see.. The shooters were behind and took off immediately.. Well planned..

[hedgehog]

9. "Agitators"? If you mean the people who label themselves as anarchists

and show up at demonstrations just to rile up trouble, then yes, agitators.

[pintobean]

10. I mean shit disturbers who are well known

to anyone here in St. Louis who pays attention. They are known by the real protesters, too. There was a fight that broke out between the two groups the other night.

[busterbrown]

13. No... Right Wing agitators.. The one’s who shoot cops...n/t

[pintobean]

20. I'll speak for myself. Buster.

As a matter of fact, I have.

[Yo_Mama]

29. Yes, and the protesters were facing the cops - they didn''t see anything, really.

I'm sure most would help if they could, but whoever did it wasn't firing at the cops from the middle of the crowd. So how could they help?

[mwrguy]

5. Snitching on people who shoot cops can be an unhealthy occupation

[840high]

6. Correct.

[busterbrown]

8. Anonymously? n/t

[Schema Thing]

11. why do you think the protesters have the same feelings you do?

I mean, they've been, as confirmed by the DOJ, living with police boots on their neck for many, many years. They've watched injustice after injustice be perpetrated against them and their community, culminating with the daylight murder of Michael Brown.

We can blather on about how violence is never warranted till we are blue (blooded) in the face, but we live in a country where the "oppression" of taxation w/o representation was "worth" violent revolution - so how much more so this?

Why do you think they would speak up, even if it wasn't something they'd personally do?

[busterbrown]

12. Yea and the way Blacks for the most part have gained success ... through peaceful protesting..

I’m personally amazed at their ability to remain peaceful, but this is the way they are carrying on..

This shooting has already set the cause back, because MSM is framing it as retribution only..

So to answer your Question..Most of the peaceful protesters probably don’t want to turn this into a violent
situation.. It Hinders their cause immensely. You know dam well how the media loves to show tape of Blacks looting businesses ...And half the viewers seeing as..”look at those thugs” The fact that the protests are peaceful is so they get their message across.. not the one MSM wants...

This is why I think those particular protesters would turn these guys in or help apprehend if they could..

[Schema Thing]

23. I disagree

I think peaceful protest has ONLY been successful to the extent the powers that be, and white people in general, are truly afraid of the powder keg going off.

[Trillo]

15. Isn't that called "Duck and cover"?

Wouldn't want any trouble, particularly from their oppressor.

[uponit7771]

14. If the shooters where in the crowd of protesters they would've have seen or heard something...

...in this case it's from 1 - 150 yds away...

The people who did this knew what they were doing....

It wasn't anyone protesting IMHO

[busterbrown]

16. Exactly...

This was much more like a para military operation...
These guys are getting help from the outside and have an agenda to make the protesters look like thugs .

This is pure speculation on my part.. But I do not see why it would offend anyone here..
This is our home to let off steam..

[Yo_Mama]

30. The shooter endangered the protesters.

I don't think it was someone in the "movement".

[csziggy]

17. The shots came from a dark area away from where the protestors were

100 yards, maybe more, up the hill. The police and protestors were in a well lit area concentrating on each other. No one would have been looking at that darker area of a street away from the action.

CNN today during the Ashley Banfield show had a reporter who was at the scene and one of their "law enforcement experts" - Tom Fuentes? - walk the area. The shooter would have been well away, estimated to be on the street in front of 23 Tiffin Avenue. The protestors had been moved into the parking lots along Florissant. The police were mostly in front of the police and fire stations directly across Florissant from where Tiffin comes out.

The protestors views would have been blocked by the stores along Florissant. And the first street light along Tiffin seems to be a full block from Florissant, across from Harrison Avenue, so the area where the shooter seems to have been would have been dark with only limited light behind him/her.

Try going outside at night, standing in a well lit area, and seeing how much looking into a dark area over 100 yards away - not much at all I would pretty much guarantee. Add in the factor of surprise and shock and it's not surprising that witnesses didn't see much.

[busterbrown]

18. My point is if they saw something..

They would have reported it.. Yup to me it feels like a para military operation..

[csziggy]

19. I doubt they could have seen anything

Though reports yesterday said some had reported a white car with three people in it leaving the area. Those may have been the people whose house was surrounded by SWAT yesterday and who were detained for a while then released once they were cleared - I haven't heard anything more about a white car.

But I agree - if any of the local protestors had seen anything, I think they would have reported it.

[uponit7771]

21. I do think so too, IF.. IF they could've seen something. The protestors have been more peaceful

... than the po po

[snooper2]

22. oh jesus waldo christ

[Amishman]

24. I disagree with this being the work of an expert

I am thinking it was a coward who took a few quick long shots from the dark and only bizarre luck resulted in hitting their target.

I would think para military nut would have used a rifle and not left casings. 500 feet sounds really hard with a pistol.

[NuclearDem]

25. How on earth does this seem like a paramilitary operation?

[busterbrown]

31. U know what I think paramilitary operations are in the U.S.

A bunch of White Dumb Racists trying to act as though they are Navy Seals..

Thats "how on earth" I feel..

[sarisataka]

26. One possibility

and just an opinion

[NuclearDem]

27. It's always aliens.

[Rex]

28. Everything, from the moment Wilson fled the crime scene like a common criminal

to those shootings. Everything has been strange. From the cops running around illegally without badges on, beating up protestors and reporters. Detaining reporters. To the grand jury farce of a trial. To someone shooting cops during a celebration for protestors.

They detained some people, broke into their house...what was that about? Were they the shooters?

[BumRushDaShow]

33. Think we got a live one here

Must be Firday 13th

[BumRushDaShow]

36. Easy to post unsourced pics

[pintobean]

37. Think that user name will work?

[BumRushDaShow]

41. You must be

related to "sistasouljourner".

[sarisataka]

35. Still here

after 5 minutes.... I'm surprised

[BumRushDaShow]

38. There have been alot unearthed this week

As the Whodini song goes - "The Freaks come out at night"!

[sarisataka]

42. Notice the vacancy

[busterbrown]

40. Hey Give the guy a break.. He actually was able to come up with a word ..

which was over 5 letters..

[sarisataka]

45. They are studying

[BumRushDaShow]

43. And away it went!

[B Calm]

44. 7 to 0 to hide his post, and now he's history.

He might clean his cookies and come back under a new name, but probably isn't that smart.

[BumRushDaShow]

46. I was in one of bigtree's threads yesterday with one

and I'm thinking that was the same one.

[uppityperson]

48. I think so, they keep coming back over and over and over and over and over and over and

you'd think they would find new hobbies but noooooo.

[RobertEarl]

47. One thing we can be sure of

It was an American Sniper.

The shooter was acting as a sniper and since the sniper is in America the sniper is an American sniper.

We can conjecture it was a gun-nut and provably so. We can also figure he hates cops and was a lone wolf type American sniper.

That's about all we can be sure of at this point.

[NuclearDem]

49. Oh boy.

We can conjecture it was a gun-nut and provably so. We can also figure he hates cops and was a lone wolf type American sniper.

I know this is probably a mistake to do so, but let's break that down into its components:

a gun-nut and provably so

How? Don't people other than gun nuts use guns against other people? What about this event says it must be a gun but?

We can also figure he hates cops

If his targets were the cops, absolutely.

lone wolf type American sniper.

I know by this you're probably suggesting a rightwing militia type. So how do you know this? Why does it have to be that?

So, in short, a lot of assumptions with very little evidence to back them up.