The reason we need at least a New Deal Democrat in the Presidential race is simple,

[mmonk]

we don't need national debates on Benghazi or someone's religion at this point in history. We need someone to take on economic inequality in the US, the declining incomes of average families in the US, and the increasing role of multi-national corporate rule in our legal and economic system or this will be a watershed moment where America's decline in the standard of living stays steady, continually decreases, or some sort of redirection to the welfare of its people in everyday life occurs.

Have a nice day.

[Bluenorthwest]

1. Bring me an FDR Democrat who has been one as long as I have, not since the last season of Seinfeld.

If you try to tell me that a Ronald Reagan supporter and 30 year Republican is an FDR Democrat, I will laugh at you, then quote Ronald Reagan on the New Deal:

“Fascism was really the basis for the New Deal. It was Mussolini's success in Italy, with his government-directed economy, that led the early New Dealers to say "But Mussolini keeps the trains running on time.”

― Ronald Reagan

So folks who voted for Reagan a couple of times, that's what they were voting for.

[mmonk]

2. Yep when all along fascism was the replacement of public with private interests.

[hifiguy]

7. The quintessential definition of fascism was given by Giovanni Gentile

and published under Mussolini's name:

"Fascism should properly be called corporatism, because it is the fusing of corporate and governmental power."

In other words, the EXACT OPPOSITE of the New Deal philosophy.

Jayzus, Raygun was dumb.

[volstork]

14. And it is exactly

What exists in this country today, thanks to St. ronnie

[zeemike]

24. Yes it is.

And it came to this country in the way predicted, wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross and calling it freedom.

[jwirr]

36. And he (raygun) was surrounded by wolves. There hasn't been a R president since who was not

surrounded by wolves (corporations). Willingly surrounded by wolves.

[Enthusiast]

40. PLUS ONE, a whole bunch!

[Jim Lane]

19. Reagan was a registered Democrat until he was past 50 years old

And the moral of the story is: A candidate's past voter registration provides little basis for assessing his or her current fitness for office.

A corollary is that basing a voting decision on a candidate's past voter registration would be pretty stupid.

A further corollary is that bringing up such a minor matter over and over and over would be especially stupid.

[Bluenorthwest]

28. You want to talk about Reagan's pre Republican politics? We sure can, it goes a long way to

explaining the so called 'Reagan Democrats'. He was an opportunist, a McCarthyist and always a conservative.
One of the leading political figures in my State's history was a Senator named Wayne Morse. Wayne was elected to the Senate as a Republican, but left that Party in very clear protest of the nomination as VP of Richard Nixon. He became an Independent. Later, as part of his growing opposition to the Vietnam war, he joined the Democratic Party. Wayne served 4 terms, voted against the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution and is known for his clearly spoken opinions and reasons for action.
I'd like to see more of that out of Warren and less of the mushy bipartisan stuff. If she left that Party for good reasons, why not state those reasons? Morse did. I wish that she would. Morse made gold out of that stuff. She could too.

[Jim Lane]

30. Unlike Morse, Warren never ran for office as a Republican.

I do agree with you, though, that she might be able to make some political capital out of her change of party. Some centrist Republicans, uneasy at the Tea Party takeover of the GOP, might feel better about switching parties if they had more role models. (Lincoln Chafee and Pete McCloskey just aren't that well known.)

[jwirr]

37. I remember Senator Morse. He was a very good congressman. Wish we had more like him.

[rhett o rick]

3. We all support the social issues but if we don't get a handle on the ever growing

income inequality, we will all be in soup lines soon. Some are willing to ignore the plight of millions as long as it isn't effecting them.

[hifiguy]

8. You, rick, are so right it can't even be quantified.

And so many here stick their fingers in their ears and "la-la-la."

[erronis]

23. And everything else is a distraction. (eom)

[jwirr]

38. Absolutely.

[Enthusiast]

41. +1 You nailed it.

[dembotoz]

4. k and r

[RiverLover]

5. Not to be confused with a "NewDEAL Democrat".

Go FDR Democrats!

Our nation needs you.

[brooklynite]

6. So, by "we" you mean "not you"...

It's someone else's job to find this candidate? What are you doing?

[TeamPooka]

46. projecting and accusatory for no reason. nt

[brooklynite]

49. Accusatory for a reason...

...I read a lot here about people demanding "a choice" while apparently not being prepared to do the incredibly hard work of getting a candidate to run, much less getting them elected.

[1StrongBlackMan]

51. I see a lot of that around here ...

on a lot of subjects. But it is far easier to dream, than work FOR that dream.

[Oilwellian]

72. A lot of Democrats don't consider Hillary a dream

This FDR Democrat will not work for another Clinton. I learned my lesson the first time around.

[1StrongBlackMan]

73. That is my exact point ...

your apparently are willing to DREAM about alternative scenarios than working for that alternative scenario.
BTW, I never said or implied that HRC is a, or even my, dream (candidate or otherwise).

[TeamPooka]

55. at least you're sanctimonious about it. That should motivate people. nt

[brooklynite]

59. Not my job to motivate people...I have my candidate.

[TeamPooka]

63. I'm sure your candidate is proud of how you are alienating folks to not help either of you.

Good luck with that winning hearts and minds thing.

[brooklynite]

64. Considering the number already proclaiming they'll never vote for her...

...not something I'm going to worry about.

[TeamPooka]

66. "Something I'm not going to worry about." #WhatLosersSay

Winners worry about everything and fight to win every vote.

[brooklynite]

70. Oh, I plan to....in the real world where Democrats actually vote

Just not here

[Fumesucker]

57. Attending salons is brutal work but some poor sod has to do it

[brooklynite]

58. Eight years agom, my wife and I ran a caucus site for Hillary in Northern Las Vegas...

...with nary a salon in sight.

What did you do?

[Fumesucker]

62. I was was beginning the process of recovery from a long illness by 2008

An illness that consumed my physical, emotional, mental and financial resources.

Thank you for asking.

[brooklynite]

65. Sorry for your condition...but you threw out the insult.

[mmonk]

67. Prodding politicians that understand to run and waiting

to see if any do.

[abelenkpe]

9. K&R

[HereSince1628]

10. Name the problems, prioritize them, pick person with skills and experience

The irrationality of going to personality first with sycophant-like enthusiasm deserves ridicule.

[mountain grammy]

11. We need a Democrat who can fire up the crowds and inspire people to vote..

In 2008 and 2012 it was Barack Obama. In 2016, the only one I see who can do it is Elizabeth Warren.

[hifiguy]

16. Amen to that.

Or Bernie Sanders. But more people know who Warren is.

[mountain grammy]

20. And she can fire up a crowd. People will listen to her.

I love Bernie, but he just doesn't have Warren's fire.

[erronis]

25. Besides, he looks like my old man... back then

Or me now, or John Mac Pain.

[Enthusiast]

42. Looks that way to me too.

[H2O Man]

12. Recommended.

Short, to the point, and right on target.

Thank you!

[mmonk]

68. No sense beating around the bush.

No more talking in circles about election outcome hypotheticals either

[Dont call me Shirley]

13. And global climate change...our crumbling infrasructure...

failing schools...high student debt...poisoned air water soil food...high cost of disease treatment...militarized police...illegal mass surveillance...

[Dustlawyer]

26. Climate Change is by far the biggest issue facing us!

To properly address it will take way more than any President we have ever have. Unfortunately, by the time it is bad enough to get them to do something, it will be too late.
The second biggest problem, and one that would have to be solved b/4 climate change, is campaign finance (legalized bribery)! Until we eliminate campaign contributions we will continue our downward spiral to Facism.

[jwirr]

39. When you talk FDR Democrat all these issues are included. They are the jobs that need to be

created to get our economy and income inequality on track. The last two you mention are the exceptions. The are about the Constitution.

[1StrongBlackMan]

52. Stop being a distraction and divisive. n/t

[Dont call me Shirley]

60. Huh? Really? I don't intend to be.

I highly support an FDR Democratic President who would enact these:

The Second Bill of Rights, Franklin D Roosevelt

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the Nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident and unemployment;

The right to a good education.

And reign in the bloated defense and security agencies.

[1StrongBlackMan]

61. I was referencing a post above ...

That would have had FDR to have only been about economic stuff.

[Kingofalldems]

15. Kick and rec to offset the smartass post in this thread.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. "The reason we need at least a New Deal Democrat in the Presidential race is simple,"

....the current deal sucks.

[Cryptoad]

18. ummmm

I wonder why this new deal candidate doesn't rise up to your call?

[Jim Lane]

21. Well, I hate to break it to you, but in contemporary American politics, money is hugely important.

A New Deal candidate would have to consider the prospects for financing a campaign.

If, hypothetically, this New Deal candidate were up against an opponent who had very close relationships with Wall Street and who could expect overwhelming support from the big-money donors, then that would, alas, be a factor to consider.

[Cryptoad]

29. So how long are we going to have to listen to all this,,,

whining about not have a progressive enough candidate?

[Jim Lane]

32. As long as you continue to read a Democratic political message board

If posts with which you disagree constitute "whining" and offend you, stick to the Hillary Clinton Group. That's why DU has safe havens. Anyone in the HCG who points out that Clinton isn't progressive enough will, I assume, be swiftly blocked.

Here in General Discussion, the discussion will be more, well, general.

[Cryptoad]

47. Its not a matter of whether I think,,,,

HRC is progressive enough or not [btw she's not] rather by your own logic its hopeless that any viable progressive candidate is going to run therefore wishing otherwise is hopeless and may be considered whining !

[Jim Lane]

50. You HRC people need to get your story straight

The other charge that gets constantly thrown at progressives here is that, if we don't think Clinton would be a good nominee, we should be trying to do something about it.

So, if we don't discuss alternatives to Clinton, we're whining, but if we do, we're whining.

The fact is that I didn't say that getting a good candidate was hopeless. I said that it would be difficult in light of Clinton's overwhelming support from the big-money types. That's an obstacle that, realistically, has to be considered by anyone contemplating the race.

My prediction is that, nevertheless, there will be at least one candidate in the Democratic race who is clearly to Clinton's left. (Or, more precisely, to the left of what Clinton did when she was in the Senate and at the State Department. I make no predictions about what tack she'll decide to take in this campaign.)

[Cryptoad]

54. "You HRC People"

really,,,,,,,,? I don't know who you are addressing ,,but I aint here to defend other people's "stories", but feel free to apply anything you want to make up as you go since you seem to anyway. I have a bad habit of not conversing with people who want to tell me what I'm thinking,,,,,, so Good luck and farewell.

[barbaraj]

22. and that would be

Martin O'Malley...but who has ever heard of him?

[Thinkingabout]

27. Get your candidates to announce and run, it will be the voters to decide.

Give information on your candidates and how they stand on the issues, their experience and ability to do the job.

[MisterP]

31. plus, y'know, the country literally bleeding out on the table

[whereisjustice]

34. You are 100% correct. This cannot be overstateded. Democratic Party needs to get involved.

Shilling for Hillary is not the same thing as demanding justice from our political leaders.

[whereisjustice]

33. Conservative Democrats give us Hillary for more corporate control over our lives, sending

more jobs to Asia where they abuse women AND men.

Anyone who thinks Hillary supports equal pay has no idea what they are talking about.

Ask her about support of outsourcing to Mexico, India, China and the next frontier, Vietnam.

If you think she's the chosen one for women, then go work in those countries as a woman and come back and tell us all how great it is.

1. For $300,000 she'll talk for an hour or so about equal pay.
This is pure carnival rhetoric designed to separate you from your vote and your money.

2. And one hour later she'll demand we send more jobs to countries with horrible human rights records.
This is what really matters.

[LongTomH]

35. +1000 Thanks for some sanity!

HRC was "the senator from India." She constantly reassured the Indian billionaires that 'outsourcing will continue.'

[sadoldgirl]

43. While I agree with your reason there is another

equally important one. The Party cannot and should not
put all eggs into one basket. If there will be only a fake
primary, people will know that.

I don't know how we can get the more progressives to
run, because the media have decided to make HRC the
only one to be considered, and her war chest is full.

What happens, if something occurs that forces her to
stop running? What are we going to do then? In
other words: where is plan B???

[Enthusiast]

44. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

[Doctor_J]

45. unfortunately our candidate will probably talk a good game and then govern

according to the orders of Jamie dimon. Still better than a republican but not really what we need.

Rec

[Octafish]

48. May that candidate win the nomination and then the election.

The nation needs her or him.

[1StrongBlackMan]

53. So who is that candidate? n/t

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

56. I'll give you another reason

And this is not being anti-Hillary I'll vote for her gladly if she's the nominee.

I think we need to look to the future as a party. Who's up and coming and who's a rising star? We need to bring up more players not just the same ones from 20 years ago.

[betterdemsonly]

69. What jumbled muck

Since when have the "New Democrats" cared about equality. We already have one in office.

[NYC Liberal]

71. Which specific people do you have in mind? How do they win?