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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo you think the Republicans understand that if anything goes wrong
with the negotiations or any subsequent problems, such as a major war, will be entirely on their shoulders?
cali
(114,904 posts)randr
(12,409 posts)I believe we have a group of people who are secretly "end of time" believers. They see their mission as one to bring on the final solution and end life as we know it with a "holy war".
cali
(114,904 posts)and greed.
Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)And they will not 'share' the middle east they want everything oil and land and I think they also want to turn the brown people of the middle east into nomad desert dwellers so the white eyes can make the important decisions
Dan
(3,550 posts)I do believe they want a war, but for economic reasons. War is a profit industry - the racket as the late General said. Plus, it is a cure for low employment, it addresses some social ills (by sending the young to war), and allows some career military to put a few bits of tin on their chest. The conflict if ugly allows the talking heads to discuss strategy - as if they are generals; it allows senior officers that are no longer active to act as consultants; it enables congressional people to speak about their plans for the future and what they would do different; and empowers the next would-be presidential types to state how they would make things better. And all the while, the young die... not the children of the rich, not the children of our career politicians, no not them. The children of the people that have to live in this reality based world, the poorest of the poor, the poor, the middle, and the slightly better middle that will take a chance at during a tour for the advantage of the educational benefits - if they survive.
And, this doesn't even address the losses on the other sides, our fellow human beings that just happened to be born by accident of birth in a different country, speaking a different language, and hearing the same old same old that our young children are hearing.
Sadly, there are no innocents in this mess - those that promote it; those that fight it; those that profit from it; and those that suffer from it. We are all guilty of the ultimate crime of inhumanity, war.
And I am not speaking to what is considered a "just war".
My thoughts...
Nay
(12,051 posts)driven chest beating, and secondarily to excite their religious nut base with the 'end times.'
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Autumn
(45,056 posts)will absolve them of any and all responsibility. And in all likelihood Obama will be blamed, by republicans the media and the idiots on the right. That's just how they work.
randr
(12,409 posts)tridim
(45,358 posts)It's almost unanimous and it hasn't stopped the entire week.
I don't understand why people are ignoring the reaction. It has been direct and brutal for the GOP.
Nay
(12,051 posts)naming stuff after that cretin.
underpants
(182,769 posts)spanone
(135,823 posts)onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)Whole intent of the letter was to blow up peace talk and undermine POTUS.
If it were dems who had done this they probably would have been rounded up and taken to Guantanamo. How does the fucking email story get more time than this?
TheKentuckian
(25,023 posts)what would even indicate that any attempt to avoid such an outcome was even remotely on the agenda?
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)JHB
(37,158 posts)...who "blames America first" for merely noting how US actions have contributed to bad situations, even simply for the purpose of finding a solution that won't blow back in our faces 20 years down the line.
Why on earth would they suddenly become introspective when they have a media apparatus to help them point fingers at everyone but themselves?
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Then they can point to their letter and say "See! See!"
I think that the US needs to keep its eyes on those 47 Senators, because someone staged this. The oil industry will do anything to get the price of crude back up---even another 9-11.
Tuesday Afternoon
(56,912 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
tblue37
(65,328 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)rock
(13,218 posts)So, no.
pampango
(24,692 posts)they will just blame it on Obama And assume their base will always be clueless.
randome
(34,845 posts)It will be a beautiful train wreck.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)[/center][/font][hr]
Understanding their fuck ups is not their strong suit.
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)They think the horrid results of their ignorant, knee jerk reactions are just fine. That's the problem. They WANT bad things to happen.
fredamae
(4,458 posts)well enough that they don't care...of course that requires a certain "personality type" to pull that off..to be Capable of standing before Millions of Pissed off people, hold your position and maintain that "in the wild-dead fish-eye" look.