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The press is not being fair to Hillary Clinton (Original Post) whereisjustice Mar 2015 OP
They certainly have their favorites, don't they. Why is that? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #1
Yes, they do. Hillary is guaranteed to behave in whereisjustice Mar 2015 #6
I think Hillary will do justice for herself... android fan Mar 2015 #28
lol - I give you that. It would certainly scare Republicans if we put up a more populist whereisjustice Mar 2015 #30
Did you see Maureen Dowds column ? 4139 Mar 2015 #2
Aren't we special, if we did have Maureen Dowd to snap us back to reality Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #5
Makes me wonder if she has lingering effect of her pot "overdose" android fan Mar 2015 #29
Dowd is a hack mcar Mar 2015 #18
why, they gave us Judith Miller didn't they? still_one Mar 2015 #26
It's Hillary's turn, dammit!!!1! blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #3
I feel I owe her - nothing. 840high Mar 2015 #31
Damn them! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #4
Don't let it eat you up OKNancy Mar 2015 #7
. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #12
When is the last time the M$M was fair to any Democratic representative? Rex Mar 2015 #8
"how do we stop them?" MrMickeysMom Mar 2015 #10
I don't get the newspaper and tossed out the TVEE years ago. Rex Mar 2015 #13
Our msm "press" is tabloid and not about reporting accurately newthinking Mar 2015 #9
What you did there.. Fumesucker Mar 2015 #11
Hillary's not even attempting to build good relations with the press Dems to Win Mar 2015 #14
I think Hillary will destroy herself with a thousand small cuts, Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #15
Hillary's not even attempting to build good relations with Democrats, she's taking us for granted whereisjustice Mar 2015 #16
For arguments sake lets say she wasn't running. Who do you think could win the red or purple states still_one Mar 2015 #27
I think Hillary will be a good President. yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2015 #17
Of course. She will allow the NSA/CIA to continue their domestic spying. She will continue rhett o rick Mar 2015 #19
There is something wrong with you. yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2015 #20
Compared with those that have no empathy, I will agree. Hillary Clinton helped sell the lies rhett o rick Mar 2015 #22
Well DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #21
Yes, and that's why so many in the world pray for our deaths. We are Goliath. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #23
Just because you are a giant PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #24
Absolutely. I loved Andre. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #25
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. They certainly have their favorites, don't they. Why is that?
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 04:47 PM
Mar 2015

Why does the media select someone who hasn't even declared that they are running?

What do they have to gain by this?

Are they reporting news or trying to influence outcomes of elections that haven't even begun?

Why bother voting at all?

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
6. Yes, they do. Hillary is guaranteed to behave in
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:01 PM
Mar 2015

a manner that will invite non-stop controversy. That's good for their business.

And she can afford to. She's spent years building a Hillary Defense Fund that seems prepared to spend all of its money and human resources defending her behavior rather than actively advancing popular policies. That's also good for business.

Of course, none of it is good for us.












 

android fan

(214 posts)
28. I think Hillary will do justice for herself...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:44 AM
Mar 2015

if she declare that she is NOT running, just to piss the Republicans off.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
30. lol - I give you that. It would certainly scare Republicans if we put up a more populist
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:50 AM
Mar 2015

candidate rather than a self made pinata. Hillary could do more good working behind the scenes for populist causes like the disparity of wealth and justice driving us all towards poverty.

But that doesn't seem to interest her.

4139

(1,893 posts)
2. Did you see Maureen Dowds column ?
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 04:50 PM
Mar 2015

Ouch!





Maureen Dowd
WASHINGTON — SINCE open letters to secretive and duplicitous regimes are in fashion, we would like to post an Open Letter to the Leaders of the Clinton Republic of Chappaqua:

It has come to our attention while observing your machinations during your attempted restoration that you may not fully understand our constitutional system. Thus, we are writing to bring to your attention two features of our democracy: The importance of preserving historical records and the ill-advised gluttony of an American feminist icon wallowing in regressive Middle Eastern states’ payola....

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/03/15/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-an-open-letter-to-hdr22clintonemailcom.html?smid=pl-share&_r=0&referrer=

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. Aren't we special, if we did have Maureen Dowd to snap us back to reality
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 04:58 PM
Mar 2015

After going out of this world reading her columns.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
18. Dowd is a hack
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 08:19 PM
Mar 2015

She hates the Clintons and President Obama. She is nothing more than a cliquey middle schooler with a national column.

The Times should be ashamed.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
8. When is the last time the M$M was fair to any Democratic representative?
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:03 PM
Mar 2015

We need to get the media out of politics. We need to get Wall Street out of the media.

We need to get all these crooked/racist cops out of law enforcement and into the unemployment line. Many good people want to be cops too and probably 5 good hopefuls for every 1 shitty corrupt racist cop that gets to stay no matter what.

So anyway I am all on board, now how do we stop them?

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
10. "how do we stop them?"
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015

I guess we protest their columns or tell their editors that you're done.

They're a bunch of stenographers anyway. No one really reports much worth reading these days, including Dowd.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. I don't get the newspaper and tossed out the TVEE years ago.
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:19 PM
Mar 2015

I don't go to Old Navy and waste money on clothes. I don't have hemorrhoids nor heartburn. Let's face it, they have nothing to offer me. I get all my news on the internet and the local retail store sells awesomely cheap-good products.

The only way Dems are going to gain control is if they take over the media and stop the biased reporting favoring the GOP.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
9. Our msm "press" is tabloid and not about reporting accurately
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:06 PM
Mar 2015

the sooner we recognize that for most subjects, not just this one, the better for democracy (what is left of it anyway).

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
14. Hillary's not even attempting to build good relations with the press
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 05:29 PM
Mar 2015

Gonna be a long, ugly slog to her coronation.

The press conference at the UN stepped on Hillary's own message, her speech commemorating one of the highlights of her career, the speech on women's rights in Bejing. Not only that, it was the most inconvenient space possible for the reporters, who were grumpy and irritable before they even asked the first question:

http://www.cjr.org/analysis/hillary_clinton_press_relationship.php How Hillary Clinton made journalists’ lives difficult from Columbia Journalism Review

Clinton is well known for loathing the political press. That contempt has become all too apparent — or all too familiar, for those who remember her husband’s presidency — in wake of the email revelations. Her tight-lipped team has stonewalled countless questions from reporters, and her only personal response to the story came in a late-night tweet last week. Journalists, smelling a potential home-brewed Clinton scandal, clamored for more. And on Tuesday, Clinton finally paid lip service to the furor.

But not without a catch, of course. Though Politico reported on Monday that Clinton would give a press conference the following afternoon, her office did not officially confirm those plans until 11:30 am Tuesday, just hours before the event was scheduled to begin. The location: the United Nations, well-known for an arduous process to obtain press credentials.

The move caught political reporters unaware, and they flooded the UN’s media office on Tuesday morning in a rush to gain access. The Washington Post described the scene:

The line for credentials wrapped the block outside the cramped U.N. office where all badges are issued. A lone staffer, beleaguered but polite, was handling all press requests. Badges in hand, reporters then waited in a long line to pass through security.”

snip...

Clinton ran behind schedule in starting her remarks, leaving dozens of reporters hemmed in a cramped space, doing what we’re best at: tweeting in indignation. Her eventual remarks weren’t especially enlightening, as she maintained that she used a personal email out of convenience. Clinton’s ultimate message: Trust me.



Can't anyone here play this game?

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
15. I think Hillary will destroy herself with a thousand small cuts,
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 06:07 PM
Mar 2015

each needlessly self-inflicted.

In this instance, there's plenty of precedent for what the press can do to someone to whom they take a visceral dislike. Sighing, boring Earthtone Al, of Love Canal and Love Story fame and inventor of the Internet, could tell you a thing or two about how the press can hang a fabricated and destructive image on you.

The only real question is whether she will make it through the next year into Primary Season before she takes the final stumble.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
16. Hillary's not even attempting to build good relations with Democrats, she's taking us for granted
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 07:50 PM
Mar 2015

She is wrong for the country. Wrong candidate at the wrong time.

still_one

(92,181 posts)
27. For arguments sake lets say she wasn't running. Who do you think could win the red or purple states
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:43 AM
Mar 2015

If you haven't noticed Wisconsin has elected Walker 3 times, they threw Russ Feingold out. Iowa elected Joni Ernst. Florida is a basket case, Pennsylvania gave us Santorum, and Corbett, Massachusetts gave us Scott Brown and Romney., and the problem is not that they eventually didn't throw Santorum, Corbett, Brown, and Romney out, it is that they even got elected in traditionally blue states.

Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren would make terrific presidents, the problem is much of the U.S. is composed of people who are dumber than a rock. Many folks here profess that if Hillary runs she will lose, but there is absolutely nothing that shows me that a progressive or liberal candidate can win in today's atmosphere. People have underestimated the damage that deregulation of the media has done. It is like a contagious disease. Usually fox starts the talking points for the day, and the echo chamber picks it up, and keeps re-enforcing it through various media outlets. Don't include the 3 shows on MSNBC, or the less than 5% of talks radio. Most people do not watch or listen to them compared to the right wing bubble. As far as Newspapers, people don't read, and don't care about current events to a large part, they only listen to sound bites. Recent studies have show that 1/5th of Americans can't locate the U.S. on a map. Why do you think that is?

I have no doubt that most Americans do not have any idea the damage Reagan did, from deregulating the S&Ls, starting the ball rolling for deregulation in general, and destruction of unions. He increased the national debt to record numbers, supported and armed what was to become Al Queada, and what he should have been impeached for, the Iran Contra issue. Most polls are very favorable toward him, and that speaks volumes about our country.

Hell, in my state California, they elected Arnold Schwarzenegger which was an embarrassment, and it wasn't until Jerry Brown became governor, that California headed back to financial stability.

The Nixon/Lee Atwater Southern strategy is alive and well, and it has gotten worse. The fact remains, if you are able to take all the red states you most likely will win the Presidential election.





 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. Of course. She will allow the NSA/CIA to continue their domestic spying. She will continue
Sat Mar 14, 2015, 09:21 PM
Mar 2015

our killing children in the middle east, she will allow Wall Street to steal hundreds of billions from the middle and lower classes.

She didn't have the guts to stand up to George Bush in 2002. She bowed to him and helped his promulgate the lies.

The neocons have openly said they support her. Her and Bill have amassed over $100,000,000 in the last 15 years and not from hard work.

But none of that matters, because you don't care about the poverty rate, or the killing of children in the Middle East or the uncontrolled Security State . What do you care about? Seriously what do you care about?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
22. Compared with those that have no empathy, I will agree. Hillary Clinton helped sell the lies
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:14 AM
Mar 2015

to get us into a war with Iraq. And those that live in denial don't want to speak about her responsibility for the deaths of over a hundred thousand innocent children by horrible deaths. If by your standards you can accept that, then I understand that there is something wrong with me.

I would offer a different view. Those that lied us into the war and those that accept that decision, are the sick ones.

Answer me this, what did those Iraq children die for?

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