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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:37 AM Mar 2015

Fox News Starts Another International Incident After Guest Says U.S. Needs To Start ‘Killing Russian

With friends like Fox, who needs enemies?

Typically, the misinformation jetstream that is Fox News and its television and radio offshoots is a problem confined solely to the United States; however, recently, the conservative network’s hysterics have reached such a fever pitch that it’s actually affecting international relations. Fresh off a pending lawsuit filed by the city of Paris for its complete and total fabrication of “no-go” zones where Muslims have taken over neighborhoods, Fox once again allowed one of their “experts” say something so monumentally idiotic that the international community has responded.

Given the rise in Russian aggression towards its neighbor (and United States ally) Ukraine, coupled with Obama’s no nonsense approach to dealing with an over-blustering Vladimir Putin, it’s safe to say that United States-Russian relations haven’t been this tense in several decades. Stepping into this delicate balance is Fox’s resident “military analyst,” former U.S. Army Major General Robert Scales, who decided what would help ease tensions would be to go on television and suggest America start killing Russians.

“The only way the United States can have any effect in this region and turn the tide is to start killing Russians… killing so many Russians that even Putin’s media can’t hide the fact that Russians are returning to the motherland in body bags.”


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As to be expected when someone goes on television to boldly announce a plan of killing one’s countrymen, Russia is now investigating Scales and, according to several reports, likely pursuing criminal charges against the retired general.

Right on cue, Scales was back on Fox, telling host Greta Van Susteren that the outrage Russia expressed at the idea of America killing Russians is just one more example of Russia trying to “intimidate” media outlets. Yes, Scales thought the Russians were the ones being unreasonable here.

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Fox News Starts Another International Incident After Guest Says U.S. Needs To Start ‘Killing Russian (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
I trust this war monger remembers that Vlad has nukes and they can reach the U.S. Vinca Mar 2015 #1
While this guy is an absolute moron.... Adrahil Mar 2015 #2
I think he would have no qualms using them nt maryellen99 Mar 2015 #38
WOW kacekwl Mar 2015 #3
Even worse than usual. riqster Mar 2015 #4
A friends Uncle was into hate literature in the early 1970's they called him Uncle Thunderbolt. gordianot Mar 2015 #5
"brain pornography for the elderly and delusional" mountain grammy Mar 2015 #11
Please stop with the ageism! jomin41 Mar 2015 #22
Hey friend, I'm right there with you at 67+ mountain grammy Mar 2015 #26
I am also a member of the so-called Fox democgraphic - The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #27
okay, VO, I'll get back on the sidewalk jomin41 Mar 2015 #29
Being in the 60's demographic and as an unreconstructed hippy sympathizer my experience is turncoats gordianot Mar 2015 #36
RWers = "End of Days" Iliyah Mar 2015 #6
They® would make "End of Days" our foreign policy. Enthusiast Mar 2015 #10
They're doing their best to make that happen. lark Mar 2015 #17
Yet... mountain grammy Mar 2015 #28
And they made him a General? Dustlawyer Mar 2015 #7
The stupid sometimes runs deep .... paleotn Mar 2015 #30
It's like they have some kind of magnet that attracts these dumb, violent motherfuckers. bemildred Mar 2015 #8
So, he wants to make Russia the victim of America? And this affects the 1A how, exactly? freshwest Mar 2015 #9
and here's the scary thing.. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #12
Do these morons have any solutions Takket Mar 2015 #13
Of course they do not. RoccoR5955 Mar 2015 #14
Wasn't always that way Takket Mar 2015 #16
Seems to me, with all this warmongering asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #15
Conservatives have to have someone to hate and Russia is a good target. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #18
Over 20 million in WWII yourmovemonkey Mar 2015 #19
Does the commander in chief adieu Mar 2015 #20
U.S. Army Major General Robert Scales is what is wrong with the world of man. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2015 #21
I was not sure of Kerry Backwoodsrider Mar 2015 #23
Do Fox News and its viewers really want a Nuclear War? maryellen99 Mar 2015 #24
does this two star moron..... paleotn Mar 2015 #25
The death rattle of the Confederacy and the neo-con coup attempt was always going to be loud and nasty. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #32
That worked so well in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq etc .etc. nt CJCRANE Mar 2015 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #39
Then it could go either way couldn't it? CJCRANE Mar 2015 #40
He's an idiot, but criminal charges are grossly inappropriate. nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #33
The right always thinks that... Kablooie Mar 2015 #34
Why can't we all just get along? Trillo Mar 2015 #37

Vinca

(50,258 posts)
1. I trust this war monger remembers that Vlad has nukes and they can reach the U.S.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:40 AM
Mar 2015

Lately it seems the reich wing won't be content until there is a full blow WWIII.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
2. While this guy is an absolute moron....
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 08:59 AM
Mar 2015

... It's important to remember that Vlad doesn't want a nuclear war any more than we do.

No, I am not supporting direct intervention in Ukraine.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
5. A friends Uncle was into hate literature in the early 1970's they called him Uncle Thunderbolt.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:22 AM
Mar 2015

If Uncle Thunderbolt were alive today all he would need is Fox News which would have saved him on him money on subscriptions. As an exercise in self education I read some of his literature in discovering how low humans could descend. The briefest channel flipping on Fox gets similar results. Constant unrestrained, fanatical, hate, brain pornography for the elderly and delusional. It is always shocking that people actually believe this trash and it represents the positions of a major American political party.

jomin41

(559 posts)
22. Please stop with the ageism!
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:59 AM
Mar 2015

I'm 73 and as liberal as you. I'm a life member of Veterans for Peace. I voted for Obama twice. He will always be a hero to me. Everyone I know in my age range is liberal. Time to put this BS to bed. Most of the nazis in Congress, and on fox are way younger than I am. Maybe closer to YOUR age!

mountain grammy

(26,614 posts)
26. Hey friend, I'm right there with you at 67+
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:24 AM
Mar 2015

and the most of the nazis in congress are our age, as are Fox viewers, as are the voters who elected this Republican majority.

Not ageism, honest, it's reality. It's good to hear everyone you know in your age group is liberal, that's not my experience. My friends are liberal, but most people I know are not. My husband uses the VA for healthcare and is always surprised at the anti Obama, right wing talk he hears.
I've just begun to connect with my high school classmates about my 50th reunion. I haven't seen or spoken to anyone from my class for at least 45 years, but we've formed a facebook group and are getting to know each other. Right wingers abound! I'm shocked. Our high school was an inner city school and most of us were lower middle class or just poor. I've given up trying to figure it out.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,661 posts)
27. I am also a member of the so-called Fox democgraphic -
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:27 AM
Mar 2015

old and white. And I really hate being lumped in with those losers. While it is true that the average Fox viewer is older (and white), I don't care for the assumption that old = conservative. A lot of us old folks are unreconstructed hippies who participated in the civil rights and antiwar movements of the '60s, and are a hell of a lot more liberal than some of the young wingnuts who are raising hell right now - like Tom Cotton. Almost all of the "old" people of my acquaintance are liberals.

Also, get off my lawn.

jomin41

(559 posts)
29. okay, VO, I'll get back on the sidewalk
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:35 AM
Mar 2015

But I still see just as many (incredibly) young RWers, including my son, until Iraq, which pushed him into the "independent" category. Love your name.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
36. Being in the 60's demographic and as an unreconstructed hippy sympathizer my experience is turncoats
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 01:00 PM
Mar 2015

Most of the kids I know could best be described as liberal and are struggling to put their expensive College education to finding a job. They have far less problems with sexual orientation, take family planning as a given, are not obsessed with the acquisition of massive firepower for their gun cabinet, nor are they keen on starting a war with Iran. They at least want to repay the student loans they thought was possible a few years ago.

The dozen or so turncoat geezers I know are to a person avid Foxbots. They are to a person convinced that being conservative is a youth thing especially if you are female, young, and blond. The Fox demographic works for them. So it is fine to label me as having ageism, and based on the Fox blonds reference I am likely sexist.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
6. RWers = "End of Days"
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:23 AM
Mar 2015

The "End of Days" will begin in Israel. Once the world is cleansed from all the others (who don't believe in their GAWD), including JEWS, than the true believers will rise.

lark

(23,086 posts)
17. They're doing their best to make that happen.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:44 AM
Mar 2015

Fortunately, there's still a shred of sanity, so it hasn't happened... yet.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
30. The stupid sometimes runs deep ....
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:36 AM
Mar 2015

in the American officer corp. Lloyd Fredendall's stupidity almost cost my dad his life in North Africa in '43, but lucky for him the commanding idiot was replaced quickly. This is not a new phenomenon, but has plagued our country from it's birth. Interesting article on the subject at the link.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/11/general-failure/309148/

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
8. It's like they have some kind of magnet that attracts these dumb, violent motherfuckers.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:25 AM
Mar 2015

With big mouths.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
9. So, he wants to make Russia the victim of America? And this affects the 1A how, exactly?
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 09:30 AM
Mar 2015

I think every cursed thing that comes out of Rupert's American media cesspool means the exact opposite of what people think about it. Because his other stations abroad promote calling America the source of the world's problem and chief warmonger, but here they promote us going to war with others. They've got it coming and going, left and right now.

mountain grammy

(26,614 posts)
12. and here's the scary thing..
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:08 AM
Mar 2015

I can go hang out at the local bar in my town this evening and hear my fellow locals, many without a pot to piss in, cheering for the general.

The main reason I stay home.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
14. Of course they do not.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:36 AM
Mar 2015

The Military Industrial Complex has them by the short hairs.
Some say, if we didn't have the MIC, there would be no jobs. Seems the only thing that we make here in the US is weaponry.
WTF am I doing here any way?

Takket

(21,552 posts)
16. Wasn't always that way
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:43 AM
Mar 2015

But the GOP has done a great job of paying off companies to get rid of well paying non-MIC jobs. This leaves the average joe either taking a MIC job or going homeless. And average joe, who is too blinded by Fox News to realize how he got into this position, roots for war to protect his paycheck.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
15. Seems to me, with all this warmongering
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:38 AM
Mar 2015

From Fox and 47 US senators...we are going into our Presidential election with war on the mind..In 2000 I remember turning to my husband and expressing my fears - if Bush gets in we are going to war -

I have only one thing to say (as a sister of two brothers who served in Viet Nam) NO MORE EFFIN' WAR - NO MORE EFFIN' WAR -

Rummy and cheezy and all the other warmongers are lurking - and not so in the shadows...blatantly out in the open....beating the drums....

I know many here at DU (I have been here for a couple years, only recently started to comment) agree - NO MORE WAR, PERIOD!

I have seen this before...and the winds are carrying very dark clouds - I don't like it - when I take ALL the propaganda and lump it together...the story line is familiar....I haven't forgotten Viet Nam...Iraq and Afghanistan - totally sad.....

One person cannot turn around this beast that is rising from the ashes...I choose to take a stand against this beast of putting our innocent men and women in harms way....we turned the tide in Viet Nam -it took a while to sink into the minds of Americans..Once we were shown the number of body bags - we did not stop....

We have a president in the WH who wants to use diplomacy...and the harm in that is WHAT? - The only harm to Americans - is the enemy within......

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. Conservatives have to have someone to hate and Russia is a good target.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:52 AM
Mar 2015

You'll see a lot of Russian hatred here in supposedly "politically liberal" DU. War mongering isn't a liberal trait. Just sayin'.

yourmovemonkey

(266 posts)
19. Over 20 million in WWII
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:52 AM
Mar 2015

I'm pretty sure the Russian people have proven this approach doesn't work, and that they can endure a long hard slog. I detest Putin, but my Russian friends are some of the most wonderful people I've ever known. This guy is an idiot.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
20. Does the commander in chief
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:54 AM
Mar 2015

have any sway over retired military members? I think there's a case here of Obama requiring this retired general to be parachuted alone into eastern Ukraine and let the wolves from either or both sides have at him.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
21. U.S. Army Major General Robert Scales is what is wrong with the world of man.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:57 AM
Mar 2015

And all those who think and act as he does.

Stop the violence and bloodshed.

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
23. I was not sure of Kerry
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:00 AM
Mar 2015

But it is obvious he is working hard to amp down the tensions in the middle east. He and the Obama party want peace like all the other industrial countries, it is where humanity is going. We need Fox news to document the extinction of the redneck mentality including selfish greed based on fear and ignorance . Fox shows us where we don't want to go. As human awareness grows the human population evolves into a better being with no need for Fox news

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
25. does this two star moron.....
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:15 AM
Mar 2015

...think starting another major land war in Europe is the answer? To anything? The Russians are not the Taliban. The are not the Iraqi insurgents. They are not the NVA or Vietcong. If the NATO attempts airstrikes, a significant number of NATO pilots will be killed by SAMs and Russian fighter aircraft. They will respond with a modern military response and American service personnel will die so this fucking idiot can beat his chest.

And then there's the Russian tactical nukes and their willingness to use them in such a situation. Don't think they didn't notice and respond to what happened to their friends the Serbs in the 90s.

http://thebulletin.org/why-russia-calls-limited-nuclear-strike-de-escalation

http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/12-11-2014/129015-russia_nato_nuclear_surprise-0/

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
31. The death rattle of the Confederacy and the neo-con coup attempt was always going to be loud and nasty.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:36 AM
Mar 2015

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Response to CJCRANE (Reply #35)

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
34. The right always thinks that...
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 12:29 PM
Mar 2015

the solution to any international problem is simply to bomb the other country.
They consistently assume that if you attack other countries they will always be cowed and back down.
The fact that this has never happened once in history doesn't seem to be a factor.

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