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Want to talk about more treason??? (Original Post) Skidmore Mar 2015 OP
Huge uptick on internet about 'urban warfare' recently. Some think it's unimportant. blm Mar 2015 #1
I agree, I feel something bad coming...All the more reason to work 24/7 against a con in WH NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #3
if by chance a Republican is elected in 2016, where do you suppose they will all go? Voice for Peace Mar 2015 #14
Some of them have gone off the deep end to hating all government, the majority NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #15
The mere idea of a race war is fucking scary. Initech Mar 2015 #4
It's gone far beyond Alex Jones and is now standard fare on most RW sites. blm Mar 2015 #7
I'm white and I live on an Indian reservation and liberalhistorian Mar 2015 #10
Thank you for the additional perspective... blm Mar 2015 #11
And the acting-out continues unabated. }=( calimary Mar 2015 #2
I would be surprised if they weren't but equally I'd be surprised if they publicized it el_bryanto Mar 2015 #6
And that is why I think law enforcement doesn't want widespread coverage blm Mar 2015 #8
Or the US "protective services" are bred from the same pool erronis Mar 2015 #13
K&R nt WhiteTara Mar 2015 #5
Hopefully they are, Skidmore. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #9
"Why these people aren't explaining things to the Secret Service, I'll never know." TrollBuster9090 Mar 2015 #12
No, I dont. Township75 Mar 2015 #16
Dude is in Germany, spewing this stuff. SS can't touch him: freshwest Mar 2015 #17
Not sure he's in Germany. See more from the SPLC at ashling's thread: freshwest Mar 2015 #18

blm

(113,008 posts)
1. Huge uptick on internet about 'urban warfare' recently. Some think it's unimportant.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:43 PM
Mar 2015

I think all the increased talk about starting a 'revolution' and a 'race war' is quite deliberate and should not be overlooked.

From the article:
"After numerous bigots from around the nation pledged their financial support toward eliminating the President, Wilhelmsen began networking militias to accomplish the task, encouraging them to stock up on food, weapons, medical supplies, and ammunition in order to prepare for a “violent conflict” and “urban warfare.”


 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
14. if by chance a Republican is elected in 2016, where do you suppose they will all go?
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 07:00 PM
Mar 2015

Back into Pandora's Box?

Or will they be just as crazy towards Republicans?

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
15. Some of them have gone off the deep end to hating all government, the majority
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 07:03 PM
Mar 2015

of them will support their idiot leader and make noise about how they better legislate their hate for them.

If a con takes the WH the election will have been stolen and I wont be tolerating that.

I dont know what I can or will do, but there is no way the con can win unless they steal, and we have to be prepared for that.

I am open to suggestions, accepting it is not one of them

They would not accept honest elections, and we will accept a dishonest one?

Not me

There is really nothing I could do about it, alone...so we need to be together

Initech

(100,036 posts)
4. The mere idea of a race war is fucking scary.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:21 PM
Mar 2015

And the fact that you have psychotic douchebags like Alex Jones rallying the crazies does nothing to ease my fears.

blm

(113,008 posts)
7. It's gone far beyond Alex Jones and is now standard fare on most RW sites.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:33 PM
Mar 2015

The RW is convinced their 'news' sources are actual 'news' sources.

liberalhistorian

(20,814 posts)
10. I'm white and I live on an Indian reservation and
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 04:10 PM
Mar 2015

such a war is a real fear here among native americans, as it should be. They, like other American minorities, see, hear and experience a lot more than those of us in the majority and they know a lot more of what they're talking about than we do. It's never been that great for them, but this is the worst many of the older ones have seen for a very long time and it's the worst the younger ones have ever seen and heard. And I have African-American friends who tell me the same thing.

blm

(113,008 posts)
11. Thank you for the additional perspective...
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:09 PM
Mar 2015

I didn't even consider that they, too, expect to be targeted. The RW extremists group are so backwards thinking they probably want to relive the Wild, Wild West of their fantasies.

Stay safe, kiddo.

calimary

(81,107 posts)
2. And the acting-out continues unabated. }=(
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 02:44 PM
Mar 2015

I would hope to God the Secret Service - or SOMEBODY - is looking into this, seriously.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. I would be surprised if they weren't but equally I'd be surprised if they publicized it
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:29 PM
Mar 2015

Giving these groups attention is part of what they want.

Bryant

blm

(113,008 posts)
8. And that is why I think law enforcement doesn't want widespread coverage
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:41 PM
Mar 2015

of police shootings like the recent ones in LV, Arkansas, Pennsylvania, Texas and Florida - Wall to wall coverage by news organizations that these ambush shootings of LEO's are increasing in numbers because the 'revolution is starting' only signals to the rest of the crazies to load up and join the fight.

Tough position to be in for DHS and LEOs.

The shootings of the NYC police by a nutty left guy was aberration, and thus allowed constant coverage for a month - because it didn't carry any danger for LEOs down the road.

How quickly did the LV, Penn, Ark, Texas, and Florida ambushed shootings by RW extremists get off the front pages and off the national 24/7 news networks? A day or 2? Week? Some were kept as local news and didn't even expand to national headlines.

erronis

(15,181 posts)
13. Or the US "protective services" are bred from the same pool
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:31 PM
Mar 2015

Officer Friendly is no longer working for us.

Our prison guards, new police recruits, Secret Service drunkards, you name it.

Do you trust them to care about the average citizen?

Do you think that we have been systematically engaging in hiring the least empathetic individuals to maintain (THEIR) law-and-order?

Will you trust that knock on your door one night when someone yells out "Police - open up!"?

TrollBuster9090

(5,953 posts)
12. "Why these people aren't explaining things to the Secret Service, I'll never know."
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 05:22 PM
Mar 2015

Because there are no Secret Service agents to spare. About a third of them are passed out drunk under a pool table, another third are out looking for prostitutes, and the rest are all busy guarding the houses of their secretaries friends.

Mystery solved.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
17. Dude is in Germany, spewing this stuff. SS can't touch him:
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 07:54 PM
Mar 2015

From a previous post in 2014:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025620401#post62

But he is still currently saying the same things:

https://ofthehighest.wordpress.com/

Take a long look at that website. It's not criminal in Germany to threaten Obama. But this gets the RWNJs here all giddy thinking of a right wing revolution. They are always into a violent one, although they have been doing it at the ballot box, too.

Wilhelmsen lives in one of the highest taxed countries in the world, but calls for Americans to pay no taxes. The USA government he calls illegitimate, and with his intense hatred of all things Muslim and fear he is promoting, I wonder if he supported Bush invading Iraq, but don't have time to look for that.

He's clearly decided to make money on ODS in the USA, if nothing else. He won't do anything to endanger himself. He's untouchable over there with his stochastic terrorism.

And this is a great scam, he'll be holding onto that reward money! There is a chance he's being paid already to do his spiel, by whom, I've no idea. But in Germany, he may have the leisure and funding for this.

He has more than one piece on how he thinks his and our government should be:

God has given the German people their true identity as a nation, not as an illegitimate government



This post is to present the facts of the law, the facts seen in my Human Rights Complaint (File No. 2341/11, The Dignity of Man - Ugly Wolves) and the unlawful “decision“ of Judge M. Villiger which reveal that the European Court of Human Rights is conspiring with illegitimate “State authorities” - stealthily violating Germany’s Basic Law (Grundgesetz - GG) and international treaties, fraudulently claiming state authority, and disrespecting human rights that are needed to secure free democratic communities, including violating rights for legal recourse and an effective remedy for violations of rights.



NOTE: It is unlawful for Germany’s “State authorities” and the European Court of Human Rights to claim that they respect the German people and human rights while willfully violating the democratic rule of law. These “State authorities” have, in fact, been fraudulently claiming immunity for themselves for over 43 years while deceivingly and ever-increasingly installing another dictatorship...

So he may no longer be convinced Germany is the home of God-given rights:

https://ofthehighest.wordpress.com/2011/07/09/god-has-given-the-german-people-their-true-identity-as-a-nation-not-as-an-illegitimate-government/

Enough dumpster diving, but the website is interesting.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
18. Not sure he's in Germany. See more from the SPLC at ashling's thread:
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 11:57 PM
Mar 2015
Man Who Claims Ties to ‘Christian American Patriot Militia’ Threatens Obama in Facebook Post

By Bill Morlin on November 22, 2013

The U.S. Secret Service is aware of a man with ties to a group called the Christian American Patriots Militia who is the apparent author of a Facebook post that says the antigovernment group has the “authority” to assassinate President Obama.

“We now have authority to shoot Obama, i.e., to kill him,” Everest Wilhelmsen wrote on his Facebook page on Nov. 19 – the same day Larry Klayman and his Reclaim America Coalition held a rally across from the White House to begin a “second American Revolution...”




It’s not immediately clear whether Wilhelmsen’s public statements cross the line from free speech protected by the First Amendment to an actual threat against the president, which is a federal crime...

It continues: “The authority to kill Obama comes from the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution: He is levying war on the United States and aiding and comforting our foreign enemies – the 2nd Amendment gives us the right and duty (authority) to engage an enemy of the United States that does so with the design to reduce us under absolute Despotism. I would be very surprised, if Obama does not leave Washington DC today (Nov. 19th)… never to return, if he is not dead within the month.”

Wilhelmsen is listed as the administrator of the Christian American Patriots Militia. Its Facebook page says it has 1,405 members, who operate as a “closed group.”

“The foundations of our nation are Christian principles built upon the bedrock of Truth, not on the shifting sands of lies,” the group’s Facebook page says. Further, it says the “founding fathers” and the Constitution give modern day Christians the “rights and duty to bear arms against any government having a design to reduce us under absolute Despotism.”

Wilhelmsen has posted other anti-Obama and anti-Muslim comments on Facebook in recent weeks, as well on a Twitter account, where he says he is “fighting illegitimate public authorities and oppression, lifting up the downtrodden and freeing the enslaved.”

His Facebook page says he has “work and education” connections with the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena, Calif., and the “Teheran American School,” in Tehran, Iran.
A spokeswoman for the art college said Wilhelmsen is not currently on the faculty or enrolled there.


 http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2013/11/22/man-who-claims-ties-to-christian-american-patriot-militia-threatens-obama-in-facebook-post/

to Cooley Hurd for posting it on ashling's thread. It appears to be public domain with no copyright restrictions, so I have posted most of it.

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