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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:12 PM Mar 2015

Study links Disneyland measles outbreak to low vaccination rates

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-disneyland-measles-under-vaccination-20150316-story.html

"...

Using some simple math, the researchers show that the vaccination rate among people who were exposed to the measles during the outbreak was no higher than 86%, and it might have been as low as 50%.

...

In other words, the only way to explain how the measles spread from a single person at Disneyland to 142 people in seven states is that a substantial number of American parents have not had their children fully immunized with the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine.

“Clearly, MMR vaccination rates in many of the communities that have been affected by this outbreak fall well below the necessary threshold to sustain herd immunity, thus placing the greater population at risk as well,” the researchers concluded.

...

So why did the study authors go to all this trouble? In an outbreak involving a major tourist destination like Disneyland, there is no single state, county or even school district that can report the overall vaccination rate, the researchers wrote. As a result, mathematical modeling like this may give a clearer picture than any individual government agency.

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Yes, such studies are necessary.

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Study links Disneyland measles outbreak to low vaccination rates (Original Post) HuckleB Mar 2015 OP
Waiting for someone to claim the "scientific" study was wrong. hobbit709 Mar 2015 #1
One of these folks probably would do so. HuckleB Mar 2015 #2
Not problematic despite the "mathematical modeling" not resembling the actual data:CDC Early Report? proverbialwisdom Mar 2015 #11
You got one! HuckleB Mar 2015 #24
Study conclusively links water to wetness LadyHawkAZ Mar 2015 #3
My favorite study links pizza to a full stomach. HuckleB Mar 2015 #5
I applied to be a test subject on that one LadyHawkAZ Mar 2015 #6
+1,000,000 ... 000 HuckleB Mar 2015 #7
And meanwhile the anti-vaxxer cry 'HOAX!!!' Lancero Mar 2015 #4
The conspiracy theories abound. ScreamingMeemie Mar 2015 #22
They won't give up pushing fictions. HuckleB Mar 2015 #28
Where was this study done? KamaAina Mar 2015 #8
I believe it was CU. HuckleB Mar 2015 #10
Rec. Obvious is not obvious to everyone. n/t PowerToThePeople Mar 2015 #9
Exactly. (eom) HuckleB Mar 2015 #14
Amazing. Was there some competing theory? phantom power Mar 2015 #12
our resident xenophobes blamed undocumented immigrants nt geek tragedy Mar 2015 #13
IIRC, "patient zero" was a foreign national, but don't recall the legal status. Coventina Mar 2015 #15
I'd be willing to bet that someone springing $100/person for a trip to Disneyland geek tragedy Mar 2015 #16
No, again, I think (and again, I'm relying on my memory here) it was someone from the Philippines. Coventina Mar 2015 #17
In the first paragraph of the article, it states that we do not know the "first patient." HuckleB Mar 2015 #18
Disneyland measles cases genetically similar to Philippines outbreak Coventina Mar 2015 #19
That's still only one possibility, which is why that hasn't been addressed since. HuckleB Mar 2015 #20
What are the other possibilities that are being pursued? I'll admit, I haven't kept up with the Coventina Mar 2015 #21
The point is that they are no longer going with that story, which may not have been valid. HuckleB Mar 2015 #23
Philippines measles strain, genotype B3, found in California patients Coventina Mar 2015 #25
Whooping cough has also seen a resurgence in California due to kids still_one Mar 2015 #26
Yup. HuckleB Mar 2015 #27

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
1. Waiting for someone to claim the "scientific" study was wrong.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 03:51 PM
Mar 2015

Because vaccines contain 'xxx' and are bad for you.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
3. Study conclusively links water to wetness
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 04:26 PM
Mar 2015

A related study was able to demonstrate a link between fire and heat.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
4. And meanwhile the anti-vaxxer cry 'HOAX!!!'
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 04:32 PM
Mar 2015

Despite studies proving them to be safe we will still have some people who cry out that the results are bought by the the pharmaceutical industries because it makes them a lot of money. We still have people saying that they are responsible for a plethora of medical condtions, despite research that shows the opposite.

It's a fear of science, plain and simple. And this isn't the only group to be based on it.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
10. I believe it was CU.
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 09:14 PM
Mar 2015

Conspicuous University.

Yeah, I know I could do better, but I'm struggling today.

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
15. IIRC, "patient zero" was a foreign national, but don't recall the legal status.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:38 AM
Mar 2015

But the only reason s/he caused an outbreak was due to low vaccination rates.

If everyone had been vaccinated, it would not have spread as it did.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
16. I'd be willing to bet that someone springing $100/person for a trip to Disneyland
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:40 AM
Mar 2015

was probably a foreign tourist and not a day laborer from Ciudad Juarez.

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
17. No, again, I think (and again, I'm relying on my memory here) it was someone from the Philippines.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:51 AM
Mar 2015

I assumed it was a tourist, but I honestly don't remember if the legal status of the patient was even mentioned in the article I read.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
18. In the first paragraph of the article, it states that we do not know the "first patient."
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:56 AM
Mar 2015

Epidemiologists are still working on it.

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
19. Disneyland measles cases genetically similar to Philippines outbreak
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:06 AM
Mar 2015

Found the article!!

CDC thinks it came from foreign tourist. Exact patient not specifically id'd but conclusion reached with the scientific evidence.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/19/health/disneyland-measles-philippines/

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
21. What are the other possibilities that are being pursued? I'll admit, I haven't kept up with the
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 11:43 AM
Mar 2015

case.

But I would think that the CDC would be pretty sure of its findings before going public with them.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
23. The point is that they are no longer going with that story, which may not have been valid.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:00 PM
Mar 2015

That's why they are overtly saying they don't have a confirmation.

Coventina

(27,093 posts)
25. Philippines measles strain, genotype B3, found in California patients
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 12:10 PM
Mar 2015
http://outbreaknewstoday.com/philippines-measles-strain-genotype-b3-found-in-california-patients-86538/


That has not changed.

They haven't ID'd the specific PERSON who brought it into the country, but that's where it came from.

It SPREAD because of large numbers of unvaccinated children, as this study proves.

Where do you get the information that they are no longer "going with" the story that it came from the Philippines? Because I can't find anything.
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