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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 02:53 PM Mar 2015

Barney Frank: People pushing Elizabeth Warren to run in 2016 are doing her a disservice


Barney Frank: I Support Elizabeth Warren's 'Intelligent Decision' Not To Run In 2016

Former Rep. Barney Frank said he fully supports Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren's decision not to run for president in 2016.

"I support her very intelligent decision not to run for president," Frank told HuffPost Live on Tuesday.

Frank said people pushing Warren to run "do her a disservice" by encouraging her to step away from her influential role in the U.S. Senate, because "she's a tremendous force for good" there.

"If she were a presidential candidate, she would lose a lot of the credibility she now has," Frank said. "People in the media and others would be discounting her as just one more self-seeking politician."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/17/barney-frank-elizabeth-warren_n_6886862.html
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Barney Frank: People pushing Elizabeth Warren to run in 2016 are doing her a disservice (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 OP
Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Mar 2015 #1
Gotta agree. n/t FSogol Mar 2015 #2
I love Elizabeth Warren. And I totally agree with Barney. longship Mar 2015 #3
Barney knows her well, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are speaking with some coordination. MADem Mar 2015 #23
Thanks for the wonderful EW pics, MADem. longship Mar 2015 #24
I think she's grand, too! As you can see, these shots go back to the campaign! MADem Mar 2015 #27
As always, my best regards. nt longship Mar 2015 #28
Not to mention, it's a lot of abuse that many folks simply may not want. And you lose your stevenleser Mar 2015 #4
True, but I kind of want some one.... daleanime Mar 2015 #13
Someone who isn't hungry for it will never survive the process. Why would you go through that unless stevenleser Mar 2015 #16
Sorry I wasn't more precise... daleanime Mar 2015 #17
Soemone not hungry for it can never win. MohRokTah Mar 2015 #18
And you can't fight city hall..... daleanime Mar 2015 #19
I don't need to convince anybody. MohRokTah Mar 2015 #21
What discussion? daleanime Mar 2015 #22
Frank also argued that Dems don't need a vigorous primary. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #5
well if you completely discount she would hold the credibility of her support HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #6
Thank you Barney! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #7
He used to be my Congressman MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #8
+1 Enthusiast Mar 2015 #9
+2 RiverLover Mar 2015 #25
Pretty much every Democrat has respect for Hillary Clinton. KMOD Mar 2015 #35
Barney is sharp. riqster Mar 2015 #10
I totally understand that.... daleanime Mar 2015 #11
If Warren is as smart as we all think... yallerdawg Mar 2015 #12
Because she is aware that America desperately needs a true progressive in the driver's seat? Utopian Leftist Mar 2015 #30
"Hope springs eternal..." yallerdawg Mar 2015 #32
Wrong. Fearless Mar 2015 #14
K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2015 #15
Not only that, but does she want to be begging for money from billionaires? geek tragedy Mar 2015 #20
Given that she raised more money than any other Senate candidate MannyGoldstein Mar 2015 #26
Her donors and Clinton's converge, too--she got her money from people who are committed to HRC 2016 MADem Mar 2015 #29
She's a fabulous Senator. lovemydog Mar 2015 #31
Everybody knows that. Stellar Mar 2015 #33
I agree! hrmjustin Mar 2015 #34
I love that she is receiving National attention. KMOD Mar 2015 #36
She's been kicking GOP ass since she got in. Long may she wave the banner for us all. freshwest Mar 2015 #37
A lot of GOPers would like to see her out of the Senate. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #38

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. I love Elizabeth Warren. And I totally agree with Barney.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:02 PM
Mar 2015

Elizabeth is an awesome US Senator. She wants to stay there. But for some here, such opinions are poisonous. Maybe they ought to ask Senator Warren... YET AGAIN... whether she will run for POTUS.

Meanwhile many are pleased as punch to have her taking a prominent place in the senate where she can do much good, just like Teddy, whose seat she sits in. Teddy would be very proud.

As I said, I love her madly.
R&K

MADem

(135,425 posts)
23. Barney knows her well, and I wouldn't be surprised if they are speaking with some coordination.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:34 PM
Mar 2015

I don't think he'd talk about her without her say-so on this matter.









A late relative of mine knew him, and his mother, fairly well--he's a great guy. As for my Senator, I think she's exactly where she needs to be right now--kicking ass and taking names.

longship

(40,416 posts)
24. Thanks for the wonderful EW pics, MADem.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:39 PM
Mar 2015

Much obliged.

How anybody would still want her to run for POTUS, is beyond me. She is a Cracker Jack senator. BTW, I was struck off the roles of the EW Group for saying so.

My best to you.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
27. I think she's grand, too! As you can see, these shots go back to the campaign!
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:58 PM
Mar 2015

Consider that silly old banhammer a mark of pride--when they can't respond to your points, that's one easy way of shutting you up. Not a terribly bold way, either, IMO!

Now we pretty much know--as if we didn't know already from EW signing the RUN HRC letter and having her lawyer issue a "cease and desist" request to that fundraising PAC--that she's talking to her near and dear friends and asking them to help tamp down the noise machine.

But then, she's an intelligent senator, and as Barn says, she has made an intelligent decision. He should know--he's been backing her strongly since the early days, before the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau gig.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
4. Not to mention, it's a lot of abuse that many folks simply may not want. And you lose your
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:02 PM
Mar 2015

freedom of movement forever if you win. You will always need a secret service person to plan your trip and escort you.

When anyone says they don't want to run, we should respect that.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
16. Someone who isn't hungry for it will never survive the process. Why would you go through that unless
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 05:53 PM
Mar 2015

you want it really badly? At some point, probably early in the primary process, you would say "eff it" this B.S. isn't worth it, I'm outta here.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
17. Sorry I wasn't more precise...
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:04 PM
Mar 2015

hungry for power, fame, prestige, the trappings of office, etc... No we don't need some one hungry for that.


Now some one determined to change the system and improve the lives of it's citizens, that we do need.



And every time some one tells me that we can't, it just makes me more determined.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
19. And you can't fight city hall.....
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:21 PM
Mar 2015

are you trying to convince me or yourself?



If the next presidential election is a standard, by the numbers affair, then we've all lost.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
21. I don't need to convince anybody.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:26 PM
Mar 2015

It is a simple fact. IF you do not desire the job, you can never win an election for the job.

Period.

End of discussion.

Elizabeth Warren Does. Not. Want. The. Job.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
22. What discussion?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:34 PM
Mar 2015

You don't want to listen and I've heard nothing to change my mind. Have a good nite.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
5. Frank also argued that Dems don't need a vigorous primary.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:14 PM
Mar 2015


video at link:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/03/16/barney_frank_on_hillary_clinton_2016_democrats_do_not_need_a_vigorous_primary_challenge.html

CHUCK TODD: We're going to do a lot more on your book in a few minutes and tape more of this. But very quickly, Hillary Clinton. Are you comfortable that she, you've argued before she should have a primary challenger, a robust one.

REP. BARNEY FRANK: No.

CHUCK TODD: Now-- I was just going to say, where do you stand on that?

REP. BARNEY FRANK: Oh, I'm not for that. When my friends on the left tell me they wanted a vigorous primary challenge, I ask them, do they fondly, do they think that Mitt Romney was helped by what happened? Did they want to replicate on our side?

No, and by the way, I was on the banking committee and the judiciary committee. I was for all of the Clinton investigations. And the fact, as you said, was nothing there, except for President Clinton and the oral sex.

CHUCK TODD: Should they handle it better? Could they handle it better?

REP. BARNEY FRANK: Yes people can. But I think this is the key politically. This is all inside baseball about what regulation of this. When she has divulged, and she's in the process of doing, if something really bad comes out, which I have no expectation will happen, there'll be a problem. But once it's been out there, and there's nothing bad there, it's going to go away.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. well if you completely discount she would hold the credibility of her support
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 03:21 PM
Mar 2015

I suppose you are going to be capable of an invention such as announcing candidacy for POTUS reduces a person's credibility.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
8. He used to be my Congressman
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 04:54 PM
Mar 2015

Last edited Tue Mar 17, 2015, 05:25 PM - Edit history (1)

I love Barney.

But he's often wrong, and has long been a big Clinton cheerleader.

Utopian Leftist

(534 posts)
30. Because she is aware that America desperately needs a true progressive in the driver's seat?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:02 PM
Mar 2015

Because she knows that there is no other nationally-recognized progressive with as much rising popularity as herself?

Because she knows that another Third Way Administration will leave this country reeling and on the brink of collapse?

Warren is a potential FDR. Let that sink in for a moment. She has charisma and likeability, something Hillary Clinton has always struggled with. Other than Bernie Sanders, can anyone name one other potential FDR that we could elect as President in 2016? Because THAT is what it is going to take, in order to get anything positive done in Washington. Anything less is a failure to save the world from economic and environmental doom, let alone the potential foreign policy nightmares that another Third Way, Republican-lite President might bring.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
20. Not only that, but does she want to be begging for money from billionaires?
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 06:24 PM
Mar 2015

Raising money is something any candidate will need to do very well, and that requires an iron stomach.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
26. Given that she raised more money than any other Senate candidate
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 08:42 PM
Mar 2015

when she ran, I suspect that she'll do just fine.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
29. Her donors and Clinton's converge, too--she got her money from people who are committed to HRC 2016
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 09:09 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/30/elizabeth-warren-s-biggest-donors-say-she-d-be-out-of-her-mind-to-run-for-president.html

...if Elizabeth Warren does in fact reverse her repeated denials of interest and decides to run for president, she will have to do so virtually alone. That’s because almost to a person, her earliest and most devoted backers do not want her to challenge Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination.

“If Elizabeth called me up and said, ‘I am thinking of running for president,’ I would say, ‘Elizabeth, are you out of your goddamn mind?’” said one New York-based donor who has hosted Warren in his living room. “I really like Elizabeth, but if Hillary is in the race it just makes no sense.”

This conversation was echoed again and again in more than a dozen interviews with big-ticket Democratic donors in Warren’s hometown of Cambridge, Massachusetts, and in cities that operate as ATMs for the Democratic money machine, like New York, Washington, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. Over and over again, the message was the same: Stay in the Senate, Liz, stay in the Senate.....

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
31. She's a fabulous Senator.
Tue Mar 17, 2015, 10:56 PM
Mar 2015

I honor & respect her decision to not run for President. We need at least 50 more Senators like her.

I'm hoping younger people who are inspired by her leadership will find ways to run and win all across the board, starting locally.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
36. I love that she is receiving National attention.
Wed Mar 18, 2015, 12:26 AM
Mar 2015

So I wouldn't call it a disservice. I love that not just Massachusetts, but all of us have a Senator fighting hard, but she could certainly run for President and win if she ever chooses to.

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