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Asawin SuebsaengThe conspiracy theories surrounding the president have gotten totally out of hand.
Last Saturday, Ted Cruz and Rick Santorum addressed the South Carolina National Security Action Summit, an event thrown by the conservative Secure Freedom, Breitbart News, and High Frontier.
While speaking, kinda-sorta-maybe 2016 candidate Santorum took a question that sounded like it sprang from the logical depths of a demented C-SPAN caller.
Why is the Congress rolling over and letting this communist dictator (Barack Obama) destroy my country? the attendee inquired. Yall know what he is, and I know what he is. I want him out of the White House. Hes not a citizen. He could have been removed a long time ago. ... Hes trying to destroy the United States. The Congress knows this. What kind of games is the Congress of the United States playing with the citizens of the United States? I dont think the country will be around for the next election. Obama tried to blow up a nuke in Charleston a few months ago, and the three admirals and generalshe has totally destroyed our military. Hes fired all the generals and all the admirals that said they wouldnt fire on the American people, if you asked them to do so, if he wanted to take the guns away from them.
Theres a lot going on in that last paragraph. (Fortunately, Bloomberg reporter Dave Weigel penned a helpful rundown for you.) Okay. Santorum believes some crazy shit, but he doesnt appear to buy into this. But some people do. Heres why.
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DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)give it a minute
Rex
(65,616 posts)I can't believe the batshit crazy CTs the RWing preppers come up with. Alex Jones and Glenn Beck have a lot to answer for.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)OffWithTheirHeads
(10,337 posts)to make Obama look bad
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)How do people believe stuff like this?
Brother Buzz
(36,420 posts)I am willing to believe it. I can believe anything. - Mark Twain
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Pretty much like that.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And read it on websites. Some people are just plain stupid. The thing that gets me about people like this, is they will believe anything loony, but anything science based they are skeptical of.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)At the link above, in the OP.
TexasMommaWithAHat
(3,212 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Heavily laden walnut trees look to him and think "If I only try harder".
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)"nuttier than squirrel shit"
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The idea being that Americans refuse to kill other Americans. He ignores the gun violence statistics in those tirades, and is a 2nd Amendment Solution Absolutionist.
EVERY event is framed by him as a false flag for Obama to 'take our guns.' The NRA wasn't radical enough for him, so he promoted Larry Pratt. He is the producer of 'The Obama Deception,' 'Police State,' 'EndGame,' and other such available on youtube, seen by many millions around the globe. He's got quite a universe, there.
His main worry is one demographic, White, Christian Americans or as he calls them, Patriots, who are the target of government, and must become more armed, militant and ready to kill others in self-defense. He heavily promoted Adam Kokesh and justified the killings of police by Jared Miller. Said it was pre-emptive and killing those cops on the beat was fair, things being what he says they are. Those killed were not doing something belligerent other than being LEOs, and the cowardly method used was an ambush.
Rand Paul calls for private security and militias, when he doesn't want to bomb someone or put boots on the ground for Israel. Although he'd be in favor of paying tax money to mercenaries of the Blackwater ilk, so he might be consistent there. He was first to bring Bill's pecadilloes to smear HRC. He says legalizing same sex nuptials leads to beastiality.
SPLC's earlier pages on Jones and his Libertarian Patriot movement were comical, but they have edited it and now admit he has become a potent force in America. He is a fervent supporter of Ron Paul and his son Rand. He's done interviews with the head of the John Birch Society, in a worshipful tone. Just as with the Father of Reaganomics, Paul Craig Roberts. Who has not repented of what Reaganomics did the unions, middle class Americans, etc. but says we need more of it.
Jones says in this video, but also in many others, that 'homosexuality is a government plot' to destroy the family and heterosexuals by making 'real men' effeminate and willing to accept the NWO. He is in favor of personhood bills and the abolition of all government services, one of them being the Post Office. Told his rural listeners that red or blue dots on mail boxes are there to identify Patriots to be taken off to FEMA camps and killed. He is a source of the stories of guillotines to execute Patriots, buying of coffins, and the purchases of additional bullets to be used by security at Social Security offices. He promotes a lot of fear and was part of the Y2K hysteria.
He wants all government agencies gone that doesn't agree with his brand of Libertarianism, which is Tenther Solution and dissolution.
And like Romney, the Birchers and the Koch brothers, he wants the public schools gone. Just as the Koch brothers and John Birch Society said, he calls public schools 'indoctrination' against the family, teaching toddlers about gays, etc.
Oh, and socialism and communism. He sent his troops to go and convert Occupy demonstrators into Paulites and they are now one of the voices we hear. It was imperative to change their focus, he said. They needed to take the Occupy focus off opposing Wall Street and falling for socialism (social safety net and regulation on banks, etc.) and to support free market capitalism. He appeals to 'liberals' who are for freedom but the rest pours into their heads at the same time and in the end results in supporting what the right wants.
Never underestimate the power of genius or wealth. They are often in the same chess set.
His agenda is no different than that of the Koch Libertarians as revealed by ALEC Exposed, Bernie Sanders and Harry Reid. As the latter were getting sustained media attention, the corporate media spent a week to wash the viewers minds clean of the revelations with the week long promotion of the Bundyfest. He hosts people who disrespect the USA while living in foreign lands and call us still here fools, unless they are Patriots like him.
He never speaks for LGBTs, women and minorities, nor the environment or the poor, calls Democrats traitors, and liberals and progressives 'tools.' Anyone who has really researched this guy knows he's a Reaganite turned Bircher, or perhaps always was one. Yet he gets a pass because he tells TheTruth©.
He has predicted a lot of horrific things. None has come to pass, but he's like an addiction. People that listen to him feel they are more informed than 'the sheeple,' that is, everyone who is not in the Infowars media cult.
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Jones begins with a defense of the Duck Dynasty's 1A rights being attacked. And rants about 'special rights for preferential groups' by authoritarian liberals. 'McCarthyite?' 'Boiling Frogs?' He adds nuance, but doesn't this sound familiar?
That was from 2013. If one goes to the video, one can buy a supply of their coffee and a cup with an Infowars logo. Plus a supply of their 'super male vitality herbal' supplements to make one's woman happy with uh... you know.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)in my IR class (who claimed to be an anarchist and regularly goes on Infowars) would probably get a kick out of this.
As for the other parts of your comment, I can't help but wonder now if he and some of those other people I go to school with believe that stuff that comes out of AJ's mouth. I'd like to think that someone who attends a politics course at a 4-year university wouldn't believe the wildest CTs imaginable about the government and about "militias", but then again--you never know.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)The facts draw intelligent viewers into the swamp. Once they get there, they like it, because it's all packaged as esoteric knowledge.
The human mind craves data (knowledge, facts, truths) as a means to survival. He appeals heavily to that, pushing fear of things people don't know which makes them uneasy and eager to remove obstacles to it.
And it's a great juxasposition of history, recent and ancient, cultural memes, current events and science fiction. It's better than Hollywood flicks as far as entertainment.
The problem for listeners is that they accept what they hear without thinking ahead what the kind of society he wants really is. Of course he sells it as great for everyone, but it's not. If one is not well off, bringing in good income, or otherwise disadvantaged their is no place of them in the world that he advocating for, really.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)They will not question anything that appears to justify their beliefs.
hobbit709
(41,694 posts)Nowadays if you rant like that you're a Teabagger leader.
treestar
(82,383 posts)But you'd think high profile people even of the Santorum type would avoid that! Didn't even interrupt the lunacy.
Rex
(65,616 posts)He knows a useful idiot when he sees one and that is pretty much his entire flock of crazies. He laughs all the way to the bank, just like the Palin Hillbillies of Alaska. We make them into a media specticale and they make tons of money from the spotlight.
Even Nuke Russia McCain knows these folks are nuts, look at them boo him for saying Obama is a decent human being. They are cray cray.
Takket
(21,563 posts)that if Obama ordered a general/admiral to nuke American soil, then fired said officer for not doing it, that there is no way said officer would bring it up to the media.... lol
lpbk2713
(42,755 posts)Some times this stuff they come up with is too strange to even make up.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)And it seems that it good enough for those that are brainwashed by Foxnews.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)It will be repeated ad nauseum for eternity
Rex
(65,616 posts)OR whatever lol. Point is, it will become a fact in their brain. To be argued over no matter how far back into a corner they go. Longterm exposure to Foxnews or the 700 Club, can cause mental impairment and an altered state. No joke, I've seen it firsthand.
Whatever was normal in that person, is replaced by this bitter and overwhelming feeling that EVERYONE is taking advantage of them. Starting with the homeless and downtrodden and working their way up to librul hippie communist living in FEMA communes and arming for a Leftest revolution!
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)calimary
(81,220 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Revanchist
(1,375 posts)I mean, how else will he be able to declare martial law, confiscate everyone's guns and ship us to all the prison-style FEMA camps he had built all over the country? Think, man, think!!!!!!!
Translation for the sane among us:
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)They're working on it as I type this! Either that or it could be the farmer that owns the land is digging some gravel out of his pit to repair one of his farm roads.
But it could be for a FEMA camp! I'd go ask the farmer but since that incident with his chickens I'm not allowed on his property.
Revanchist
(1,375 posts)They're everywhere!!!!!
A Simple Game
(9,214 posts)Me? Well ever since that chicken incident my back has been bothering me.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)I'm waiting.....
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Since reality has no bearing on things that Obama is blamed for anymore, why not just start yelling out obscene lunatic ideas....
Oh wait, that's what they do.
I'd like to have a beer with Obama after he has been out of office a few years just to see if he were ever so mad that he had to go into the White House basement and hit the heavy bag for a hour or so whilst screaming obscenities at the top of his lungs.
AndreaCG
(2,331 posts)He did indeed say exercise helps him keep his perspective dealing with the inanity.
louis-t
(23,292 posts)I don't know, I just knew.
Renew Deal
(81,856 posts)truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)oh, crap: that's Canada and they have universal health care. What's a paranoid wingnut to do?
GeorgeGist
(25,320 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)BeanMusical
(4,389 posts)In fact Obama tried to dance the Charleston. :drumroll:
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)If stupidity were clean energy we would have enough for 100,000 years and warp drive by Xmas.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)I got better.