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H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:02 PM Mar 2015

Rafael Edward Cruz

It’s official: Rafael Cruz, the “junior” Senator from Texas, has announced that he is a candidate for the republican nomination for President in 2016.

Almost immediately, his announcement was followed by discussion of if Rafael can actually be president, because he was born in the socialist nation of Canada? Call it speculation upon my part, but I predict that this is not a question that the US Supreme Court will be forced to answer, one way or the other.

Thus, the more important question to be considered is if the Cruz candidacy is a good thing or a bad thing? And that leads to the follow-up questions: Is it good for Democrats? Republicans? Or bad for America? Or is it a combination of good and bad, that allows us an objective measure of the pathology that infects our national political life?

GOP Congressman Peter King just called Cruz a “carnival barker,” a semi-humorous attempt to dismiss “Ted” as being similar to Sarah Palin. This suggests that Cruz will face strong opposition within the republican party’s primaries. Before we even consider the possibility that he could win the republican nomination, we might do well to focus on the dynamics of the republican primaries.

Rafael will not be the republican establishment’s candidate. It seems important that we understand that this is not because Cruz is a “maverick,” who has always sought to inhabit the margins of his party. In fact, just the opposite is true. I find myself thinking of an old LBJ quote about specimens of Cruz’s ilk: “he’s not a pimple on a good man’s ass.” If we adjust this ever so slightly, we can view Cruz as an infected boil on the republican party’s ass-cheeks.

In 1999 - 200, Cruz served as a lawyer on the George W. Bush campaign. He advised the campaign on issues involving social policy. After Bush lost to Gore in the November, 2000 election, Cruz was elevated to a position where he became an advocate for the theft of the presidency, first before the Florida courts, and eventually before the US Supreme Court.

After the USSC opted to make the theft of the election “official,” it appeared that Cruz was set for a career within the comfort zone afforded by the most criminal administration in American history. But, as we know, that didn’t happen. The Bush-Cheney administration decided to have the infected boil removed. In Cruz’s political career since then, too little attention has been paid to why they dumped Rafael.

The truth is that even the scoundrels in the Bush-Cheney administration found Cruz to be too obnoxious, self-righteous, and pompous to work with. And when we look at his behaviors in the US Senate, it is all too clear that his spoiled brat persona stands out in defining him. He holds onto his grudge against not only the Democratic Party, but also the republican establishment.

His campaign’s goal is not to gain the support of the majority of republicans in the primary contests -- although no doubt, that is his personal fantasy -- but rather, to damage the establishment’s candidate to an extent that allows the tea party and other marginal sub-species to join in creating a common front, and selecting the 2016 candidate. That means he will seek to harness the discontent of those who support Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee.

While this should provide some serious entertainment during the republican primaries, it is never good to underestimate the forces of fear and hatred in our society. I do not think of Cruz as just a joke, though there is plenty to laugh about in his campaign. It’s sad to think that there are people who would actually vote for this guy.

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Rafael Edward Cruz (Original Post) H2O Man Mar 2015 OP
It's definitely a measure of the pathology that infects our political life cyberswede Mar 2015 #1
Right. H2O Man Mar 2015 #10
Well, my state just elected Joni Ernst cyberswede Mar 2015 #17
He was elected Senator malthaussen Mar 2015 #2
Right. H2O Man Mar 2015 #25
I do not feel the media will choose him. mmonk Mar 2015 #3
The media peddles H2O Man Mar 2015 #26
ki ki ki kickin' Faux pas Mar 2015 #4
Stick a fork in him, he's done. Octafish Mar 2015 #5
he's the new Santorum bigtree Mar 2015 #6
He really doesn't want to be President yuiyoshida Mar 2015 #7
Thanks, H2O Man. There's a lot about him I didn't know, but I do know he's not a funny clown. Hekate Mar 2015 #8
Absolutely. WaitWut Mar 2015 #9
It was Texas Hulk Mar 2015 #22
I agree. WaitWut Mar 2015 #32
Yep. His lunacy is coldly calculated to appeal to the hifiguy Mar 2015 #24
A king of one of the 7 Mountains. Motto: "Beyond Salvation is Occupation" madfloridian Mar 2015 #11
Is it really any more appropriate Ms. Toad Mar 2015 #12
I refer to Willard Romney H2O Man Mar 2015 #15
Last I checked, "Willard" was not associated with a racial or ethnic minority. n/t Ms. Toad Mar 2015 #19
You are scraping H2O Man Mar 2015 #23
No - I'm reacting to your comments the same way I do Ms. Toad Mar 2015 #28
Desperate, eh? H2O Man Mar 2015 #29
Maybe not any more appropriate... mtngirl47 Mar 2015 #16
I'm not concerned about hitting the right over the head with fact. Ms. Toad Mar 2015 #18
Recommend, thanks. nt Zorra Mar 2015 #13
Pardon my language, but... jjblazes Mar 2015 #14
Of course, he is bad for America, but that is not the point. world wide wally Mar 2015 #20
He IS a joke. Hulk Mar 2015 #21
Ted Cruz is spine-chilling scary to me. democrank Mar 2015 #27
Recommend.. KoKo Mar 2015 #30
… is an anagram for "El crazed war fraud". 11 Bravo Mar 2015 #31

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
1. It's definitely a measure of the pathology that infects our political life
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:07 PM
Mar 2015

That this person was ever able to get himself elected to anything - let alone the US Senate - tells us a lot about our political system. It's utterly broken.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
10. Right.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 04:04 PM
Mar 2015

Bad enough that he could be employed in a government office. But not even "just" the House -- which has had its share of lunatics and shitheads. But the Senate? Shameful!

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
2. He was elected Senator
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 02:12 PM
Mar 2015

He probably would have a hard time getting the GOP nomination, but that sort of ignores the fact that people with votes, and people with the money to buy those votes, think he is a good choice. I don't waste my time laughing at fools, usually. I'm too busy worrying that those same fools will take over the government. I can't quite escape the feeling that those who feel compelled to mock are suffering from a need to feel their own superiority. Yeah, right. While those people laugh, the Cruzes and ilk are laughing, too -- all the way to the bank and the halls of Congress.

-- Mal

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
25. Right.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:21 PM
Mar 2015

I do not think there's much chance that he'd win the nomination. He has a small, but better, chance of being picked as a VP candidate.

What concerns me more is that he appeals in a way that speaks to fear and hatred. He expresses contempt for President Obama frequently; today, he sought to implant images of his "base" as being similar to those who declared independence from England, peppered with "give me liberty, or give me death" nonsense, with appeals to a bat-shit crazy interpretation of christianity. It's the people who listen to him, and believe in what he is saying, that pose the potential danger.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
5. Stick a fork in him, he's done.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:00 PM
Mar 2015

While it's not the last, this more than likely is the best day of his campaign.

bigtree

(85,975 posts)
6. he's the new Santorum
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:03 PM
Mar 2015

...good wedge to divide republicans and force their eventual nominee to the unelectable right.

Come to think of it, they're all very extreme, other than Jeb, who's trying to posture as a moderate (badly).

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
7. He really doesn't want to be President
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:06 PM
Mar 2015

He is shooting for KING or Supreme Ruler.... The man, knows nothing about government, nor cares about the people. He thinks he has been groomed for running the show, during the End Times, and if they don't happen he will probably try and make it happen.

just my two cents.

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
8. Thanks, H2O Man. There's a lot about him I didn't know, but I do know he's not a funny clown.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:21 PM
Mar 2015

He's a very scary clown, for those with eyes to see.

Alan Dershowitz wrote about him a couple of years ago, and I never forgot that he was a student of Dershowitz's and that D thought he was off-the-charts brilliant. Alan Dershowitz is a liberal and I think this was a cold sober assessment on his part, and a warning.

My observation? Sociopath with enough charisma to sway his target audience. A very dangerous man.

WaitWut

(71 posts)
9. Absolutely.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 03:45 PM
Mar 2015

I'm hearing so many jokes, but I'm not laughing.

After watching how he manipulated the media in Texas to come out of nowhere and win a Primary against a highly electable David Dewherst. He is someone to take very seriously. This is not Sarah Palin. He knows how to work a room of journalist to get the type of exposure that he wants. He knows how to steer any argument to God, Gun's, and Taxes, and seasoning it with just a pinch of fear. I don't for see him making that campaign ending gaff. Hell, he is still a hero to some for reading "Green Eggs and Ham" in a meaningless stunt.

Hopefully, I'm wrong.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
22. It was Texas
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 04:50 PM
Mar 2015

That evangelical, Obama-hating Fire and brimstone sell well down there. After all...gohmert, perry....need I say more?

WaitWut

(71 posts)
32. I agree.
Thu Mar 26, 2015, 01:50 PM
Mar 2015

Texas is not a very good barometer of national politics. In fact Paul Sadler only pulled 40% of the votes in an Obama re-election year. But I would like to point out the fact that he beat out an established Republican candidate and eventually winning the election by selling his "true conservative" values and changing the position of the argument.

I don't think that he will win the Republican Presidential Primary this year, but he will certainly drum up the Republican base to move a lot of discussions more to the right.

For example, condemning climate science as "Flat-earth" allows us to continue the debate on the validity of climate science and not discuss viable solutions. His enrollment in Obamacare. Well, it's already coming out, "That he had no choice." I would wager that he will then use his "experience" with being forced into a broken system, and how that system needs to be torn down, to move the discussion to "is it impossibly broken, or is it functional." This moves the discussion back 5 years, fires up his base, and get's people out to the polls to support their local "true conservative" candidates.

Don't turn your back on him.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
24. Yep. His lunacy is coldly calculated to appeal to the
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 05:25 PM
Mar 2015

evolutionary throwbacks in the repuke primary electorate. He's dangerous, as is Cotton. Sociopaths both.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
12. Is it really any more appropriate
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 04:08 PM
Mar 2015

to emphasize Cruz's Hispanic first name than it was when the right emphasized Barack Obama's middle name to imply he was foreign?

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
28. No - I'm reacting to your comments the same way I do
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:07 PM
Mar 2015

when people imply someone on the right is gay or trans in a way that suggests the hope they will be tarred for it by their own kind.

There are a heck of a lot of people of good intention on DU who still use those tired "joke," somehow thinking that the tar won't also burn the LGBT individuals on the left.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
29. Desperate, eh?
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 09:47 PM
Mar 2015

As noted, I call Romney by his name -- Willard. And I call others by their name. It's pretty simple.

mtngirl47

(987 posts)
16. Maybe not any more appropriate...
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 04:36 PM
Mar 2015

But remember that the right has to be hit over the head with facts. I think that we Democrats are sometimes too fair and balanced in the dirty game of politics. We've let our candidates be "swift boated" over and over. We need to shout out the truth about our candidates and we need to call their candidates out for their lies and fabrications.

Rafael Edward "Ted" Cruz was NOT born in the United States of America. He is too dangerous to let him get very far in this process--tell their voters that he's a foreigner and hopefully that will take him out of the running.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
18. I'm not concerned about hitting the right over the head with fact.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 04:42 PM
Mar 2015

I'm concerned about the message it sends to hispanic individuals when a hispanic first name is used as part of ridiculing or putting someone down.

If you really want to join the birthers' cause - directed at Cruz, rather than Obama, you can make that point directly, and much more effectively, than by using his first name the same way they used Barack Obama's middle name, "Hussein." After all there are many, many U.S. citizens, born in the US, with the first name Rafael. So having the first name Rafael doesn't even make the point.

world wide wally

(21,738 posts)
20. Of course, he is bad for America, but that is not the point.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 04:43 PM
Mar 2015

The point is that he now has a bigger megaphone to raise obnoxious points and make outrageous statements that invariably push the country just a little bit more to the right. As per the Dominionist philosophy, eventually these outrageous talking points become tempered as people grow more used to them and ultimately they become the mainstream points of the party.

What needs to be done is for him to be slapped down relentlessly every time he says something inflammatory.
Manners, courtesy, and respect be damned. Fuck him and the snake he rode in on.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
21. He IS a joke.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 04:46 PM
Mar 2015

Fear him, take him seriously if you chose, but I won't waste a moment fearing this absolute clown is going to hurt the Democratic chances for taking the White House in 2016.

He will simply bring "the crazies" out into the open. They are already there. His running is NOT going to bolster his fan club an iota. It will simply display the turd for what he is, give his opponents an opportunity to expose his nonsense, and further divide the repuKKKe party and sway more independents our way.

MY prediction.

democrank

(11,085 posts)
27. Ted Cruz is spine-chilling scary to me.
Mon Mar 23, 2015, 07:49 PM
Mar 2015

He`s very intelligent and has mastered crowd control in a devious, preachy sort of way. I honestly believe he could convince followers to drink the Kool-Aid.

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